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To think if someone is four inches taller than you that is not short

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SleepDreamThinkHuge · 07/11/2022 16:17

in relative terms?

I was talking to a friend who said he met a girl who was 5 feet 2 and he is just over 5 foot 6 she said she liked everything about him, but he is "too short for her."

I told him height is relative. For his height, someone who is between 5 feet to 5 feet 3 it is not really too short because it is still a significant difference. I have heard other stories from friends as well another guy who is about 5 feet 9 and a girl who is 5 feet 3 thinks, he is too short for her. Is it me or if someone is a few inches taller than you at least that should not be classed as short speaking in relative terms?

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ReneBumsWombats · 08/11/2022 16:07

Why do people not like online dating ?

Well I've never done it, but from what I hear, the problems include misleading pictures, lies on profiles, bad profiles, men who just want to talk dirty but not meet (often married), the difficulty of knowing how to screen for meeting up, the sweet shop mentality, the effort of sending messages that get no response, sexually inappropriate messages and the reduction of human contact into algorithms and lists of numbers. Plus others.

I can see why a lot of people might be up for returning to a meeting up in a bar and just mingling.

GasPanic · 08/11/2022 16:09

@RishisProudMum

I think it is sometimes a wonder in this day an age that anyone manages to get together at all !

If you are not supposed to have workplace relationships because of the potential of harrassment or power imbalance and you're not allowed to chat to people in pubs because people don't like being harrassed when they are "just on a night out" coupled with peoples general reluctance to approach people because of fear of rejection and negative comments OLD seems to me like one of the few places left where it might actually be possible to get together with someone, especially if you are older or don't have a big social circle.

GetUpTheyStair · 08/11/2022 16:09

I've seen men online discuss their ideal woman right down to nipple and labia size, but get annoyed if a woman has any preferences at all. You can fancy who you fancy, dating is by its nature a discriminatory process.

I'm the opposite, I'm 5'8 and prefer a man around my height because it hurts my neck to look up all the time!

OohMrBingley · 08/11/2022 16:22

RedAppleGirl · 08/11/2022 12:44

🤣🤣
I'm 5ft 8, Dp is 5ft 8. I like confidence, values, and a good bod. I know for a fact Dp doesn't have limited options. He has his own personal limits.
Most people have limited options, height is one factor, earnings, financial responsibility for a man, weight is a factor for a women, as is age.
Personally I don't have a strict criteria, I'm a little my open which gives me more options.

I know for a fact Dp doesn't have limited options.

Well, yes, he does.

You say yourself:

Most people have limited options, height is one factor

Why are you exempting your DP from this, when there’s a whole thread of people saying they wouldn’t date someone his height, and you yourself admit most people have limited options?

RedAppleGirl · 08/11/2022 16:24

5128gap · 08/11/2022 15:56

Well he does have limited options. His options are limited to women who don't mind dating a guy who isn't tall. As you say, few of us have no limitations on who we can date. But he met you, you don't mind, so all good. Nothing to complain about is there?
I get that some women are happy with shorter men. Just don't get the need to convince everyone else they should want one too.

Where have I attempted to convince you about the joys of shorter men.
😂

KimberleyClark · 08/11/2022 16:29

I've seen men online discuss their ideal woman right down to nipple and labia size, but get annoyed if a woman has any preferences at all.

How many of them actually insist on only dating women who fit those criteria though? It’s one thing to say that Brad Pitt is your ideal type but if you insist on only dating men who look like him you’re going to have a very limited pool.

RishisProudMum · 08/11/2022 16:30

KimberleyClark · 08/11/2022 16:03

I have no particular physical type. No particular preference for hair colour, eye colour or height really. It’s all about the overall package for me. How the individual characteristics fit together. Is that what you mean by having no physical criteria?

I don’t think most of us have anything quite as specific as a ‘type’, but most people have things that they do or do not find physically attractive. I like beards, broad shoulders, hazel eyes and nice teeth. One of my friends only dates bald men, another is very much about timbre of voice and smell.

If, when asked ‘what physical features do you find attractive in a man?’ you genuinely wouldn’t be able to answer, then fair enough. However, I think you’d be quite unusual in that respect.

RishisProudMum · 08/11/2022 16:33

GasPanic · 08/11/2022 16:09

@RishisProudMum

I think it is sometimes a wonder in this day an age that anyone manages to get together at all !

If you are not supposed to have workplace relationships because of the potential of harrassment or power imbalance and you're not allowed to chat to people in pubs because people don't like being harrassed when they are "just on a night out" coupled with peoples general reluctance to approach people because of fear of rejection and negative comments OLD seems to me like one of the few places left where it might actually be possible to get together with someone, especially if you are older or don't have a big social circle.

Agree with all of this. If OLD were removed from the equation, I’ve no idea how anyone would meet anyone. We’d figure it out, I’m sure, but I suspect there would be a few years of total confusion!

RishisProudMum · 08/11/2022 16:35

KimberleyClark · 08/11/2022 16:29

I've seen men online discuss their ideal woman right down to nipple and labia size, but get annoyed if a woman has any preferences at all.

How many of them actually insist on only dating women who fit those criteria though? It’s one thing to say that Brad Pitt is your ideal type but if you insist on only dating men who look like him you’re going to have a very limited pool.

So what, though? It’s entirely up to the individual if they want to create very limited pools for themselves.

RedDwarfGarbagePod · 08/11/2022 16:37

OP sure has started a lot of threads about height 🤔

Fwiw, I'm 5'7, married to 5'8 DH. As far as I'm concerned, my height is tall enough, so I've never considered him 'small'. He would describe himself as smaller, but it doesn't bother him at all. I actively like it and have always had a bit of a thing for smaller men.

SleeplessInEngland · 08/11/2022 16:38

I've seen men online discuss their ideal woman right down to nipple and labia size, but get annoyed if a woman has any preferences at all.

And you probably think they're morons. Correctly, IMO.

ThreeblackCats · 08/11/2022 16:39

I’m 5ft 1
any one 4 inches taller than me is still short.
Your friend prefers tall men. I really don’t see what the issue is for you.

Thefriendlyone · 08/11/2022 16:46

I don’t get your issue. He’s not entitled to her. If she thinks he’s too short for her then he’s too short for her. No one is owed a relationship. You don’t get to disagree with her and say she’s wrong. She wasn’t saying she also wasn’t short. Her being short doesn’t mean he’s entitled to her. She doesn’t have to fancy short men as she’s also short.

and on the obesity side we fancy what we fancy, you can’t dictate if someone is obese they can and must find other obese people attractive . That’s just odd.

and do you keep posting about short men? Is the friend real? No one is entitled to a relationship, a persons mind, their body, just because they have a similar physical attribute.

KimberleyClark · 08/11/2022 16:48

I don’t get your issue. He’s not entitled to her. If she thinks he’s too short for her then he’s too short for her. No one is owed a relationship.

By the same token no women is owed a tall man just because that happens to be her preference.

Thefriendlyone · 08/11/2022 16:48

GetUpTheyStair · 08/11/2022 16:09

I've seen men online discuss their ideal woman right down to nipple and labia size, but get annoyed if a woman has any preferences at all. You can fancy who you fancy, dating is by its nature a discriminatory process.

I'm the opposite, I'm 5'8 and prefer a man around my height because it hurts my neck to look up all the time!

Well I don’t know what sites you frequent but these men are not likely either in relationships or decent relationships. So their ideals are irrelevant. Weirdos exist. They walk amongst us. They are a thing.

Thefriendlyone · 08/11/2022 16:50

KimberleyClark · 08/11/2022 16:48

I don’t get your issue. He’s not entitled to her. If she thinks he’s too short for her then he’s too short for her. No one is owed a relationship.

By the same token no women is owed a tall man just because that happens to be her preference.

Clearly not. What an odd response. Who said any woman was going around demanding tall men date her. The thread is about the ops and his friend being upset about a woman not wishing to date a short man and them taking exception to that. How are you so confused ?

OohMrBingley · 08/11/2022 16:51

How are you so confused?

😂

Right?!

5128gap · 08/11/2022 17:09

RedAppleGirl · 08/11/2022 16:24

Where have I attempted to convince you about the joys of shorter men.
😂

Not you specifically, but its always a general theme on these threads. Some women express a preference for tall men, those with short partners post about how great their short partners are and how shallow women who don't fancy short men are.
And it's such a non issue. All bar one of the short men I know have partners, so clearly being short does not make it impossible to find a woman. All it means is that the man may be rejected by some women. Yet seemingly it is so unacceptable that SOME women may reject short men, that those women have to be told off for it, and persuaded they are wrong.

StopsWalkingToSneeze · 08/11/2022 17:34

KimberleyClark · 08/11/2022 07:20

Wouldn’t you be even more gutted if your children turned out to have the same shallow attitudes as you?

Completely, but I do believe everyone has something that is a no-no, whether it’s height, hairline, weight, ethnicity, smokes or age. I’ve never said to my children that this is how I feel. They can bring anyone home, any height, I just want them to be with someone that treats them well. They are broad minded accepting young adults who have never led me to believe they have my horrendously shallow heightist opinion.

Do I get any credit for my other response where I replied that I would pick height over looks any day Wink

StopsWalkingToSneeze · 08/11/2022 17:40

KimberleyClark · 08/11/2022 10:02

Average height has varied over the centuries. In 1950 the average height for males was 5ft 7. Which seems to suggest it’s relative height that is the evolutionary attractiveness factor and not height per se.

I don’t believe that the average height of men is that much more now, probably 5’8”

Murdoch1949 · 08/11/2022 17:54

She likes tall men, as most women do. This is difficult for short men, 5' 7" and under, but we like what we like. Height is a characteristic that is applauded in males, ooh how lovely and tall you are, I'm the worst at this. Height is a reverse issue for women, with height being a difficulty if above 5' 9". It's all a bugger.

StopsWalkingToSneeze · 08/11/2022 17:56

KimberleyClark · 08/11/2022 16:48

I don’t get your issue. He’s not entitled to her. If she thinks he’s too short for her then he’s too short for her. No one is owed a relationship.

By the same token no women is owed a tall man just because that happens to be her preference.

You’re completely correct and if I choose to disregard 70% of the male population the only person potentially missing out is me. You don’t happen to be a 5’4” male looking for a 5’7” woman who because she didn’t do her pelvic floor exercises has to stop walking when she needs to sneeze? Because I’m sorry but I’m taken Wink

Beezknees · 08/11/2022 18:12

I don't care about height at all. I'm just under 5'5 and my last boyfriend was 5'7.

ReneBumsWombats · 08/11/2022 18:12

KimberleyClark · 08/11/2022 16:48

I don’t get your issue. He’s not entitled to her. If she thinks he’s too short for her then he’s too short for her. No one is owed a relationship.

By the same token no women is owed a tall man just because that happens to be her preference.

Of course not. People are entitled to have preferences and limits. They're not entitled to have certain people.

I don't think anyone on the thread has said otherwise? That's literally the point most people have been making.

ReneBumsWombats · 08/11/2022 18:17

I've just been for a swim, actually. Several very attractive men there, muscular, broad shoulders, clearly spend a lot of time working out and eating well. And all around 5'8", as I guessed against my own height when they passed me. I'm 5'7" and they were only a smidge or so taller than I am. But all of them could definitely have picked me up, carried me upstairs and thrown me on the bed.

I haven't been on the market for a long time and I don't plan to be, but if I were, I personally wouldn't have dismissed any of them. No idea how they felt about me, of course. I'm dead sexeh