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To think a man has no place at a breastfeeding support group

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Was1anddone · 07/11/2022 14:15

Went to a local breastfeeding group today ran by the local council and was surprised to see a boyfriend/husband in tow.

I had visited because I had a latching problem that needed the consultant’s hands on support, like many women do. I happily feed in front of male strangers and family members when baby is hungry, but this is not as ‘intimate’ as coming to a clinic where the lactation consultant may need women to expose their breasts, manoeuvre babies and do compressions.

I expressed my suspense to the consultant who wasn’t very happy to see him there and asked if I needed to go somewhere more private. So I spent my breastfeeding support session in between two bookshelves in a children’s centre, which wasn’t what I had in mind.

i’m going to check with the council for clarification but but AIBU to think this should be women only? Nothing about it was appropriate at all, and he was very much ‘watching’ all of us.

there are plenty of things men can do to be equal parents and be involved in the process. If he wanted consultant level advice on how to support his partner with feeding- he could have arranged a £20 zoom session. Why can’t we just have a bloody breastfeeding session?

yes the woman may be ND or have anxiety (didn’t get those vibes from her at all though- presented as NT and very chatty and personable but I understand needs can be hidden or masked) but surely a female chaperone or friend would be more appropriate? And if she didn’t have this the council should offer something more suitable? Our dignity shouldn’t be second to her requirements, if this was the case.

my breastfeeding problem needs lots of compressions and swapping sides so my support was greatly hindered by him being there having a laugh and a cuppa. I’m so pissed off :(

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Mummbles · 07/11/2022 16:10

Blughbablugh · 07/11/2022 16:08

I have never seen a woman's breast whilst feeding in public. It is this misconception that women are flashing them around all over the place. I certainly didn't and didn't have a cover up, just some strategically placed t shirts so that I could do the one up, one didn't method. No one ever batted an eye lid. At support groups however, these are spaces for women to be able to learn how to latch properly and for a counsellor to give advise and direction which is why they are more exposed. It is also to help with confidence in feeding and feeding in public for many Mum's who are new to it.

Really?! Never?! I find that very hard to believe - where do you live?!

Kiplingroad · 07/11/2022 16:11

@CarmenBizet The problem with advertising it as female only is that you then get told it's discriminatory, as "men can also breastfeed."

So women really can't win, can they? And they lose another space to these men who want to infiltrate bloody everything, even breastfeeding groups.

DobbyTheHouseElk · 07/11/2022 16:11

workiskillingme · 07/11/2022 16:09

I am shocked to see Handbags was a previously banned poster 🙄

This thread is bringing out the pervs today!!

🤡🐠

RandomMusings7 · 07/11/2022 16:11

workiskillingme · 07/11/2022 16:09

I am shocked to see Handbags was a previously banned poster 🙄

Handbags too? I only noticed CurlyCate.

How long until Mummbles joins them?

MsProbably · 07/11/2022 16:11

There are lots of partners and husbands in attendance at the breastfeeding cafes I attend in my part of London. Not saying you are BU to not like it, but it has never crossed my mind to consider it not normal.

In those early days and weeks seems quite normal (and nice) for couples to take on feeding/latch problems together.

mansviewpoint · 07/11/2022 16:11

Was1anddone · 07/11/2022 14:15

Went to a local breastfeeding group today ran by the local council and was surprised to see a boyfriend/husband in tow.

I had visited because I had a latching problem that needed the consultant’s hands on support, like many women do. I happily feed in front of male strangers and family members when baby is hungry, but this is not as ‘intimate’ as coming to a clinic where the lactation consultant may need women to expose their breasts, manoeuvre babies and do compressions.

I expressed my suspense to the consultant who wasn’t very happy to see him there and asked if I needed to go somewhere more private. So I spent my breastfeeding support session in between two bookshelves in a children’s centre, which wasn’t what I had in mind.

i’m going to check with the council for clarification but but AIBU to think this should be women only? Nothing about it was appropriate at all, and he was very much ‘watching’ all of us.

there are plenty of things men can do to be equal parents and be involved in the process. If he wanted consultant level advice on how to support his partner with feeding- he could have arranged a £20 zoom session. Why can’t we just have a bloody breastfeeding session?

yes the woman may be ND or have anxiety (didn’t get those vibes from her at all though- presented as NT and very chatty and personable but I understand needs can be hidden or masked) but surely a female chaperone or friend would be more appropriate? And if she didn’t have this the council should offer something more suitable? Our dignity shouldn’t be second to her requirements, if this was the case.

my breastfeeding problem needs lots of compressions and swapping sides so my support was greatly hindered by him being there having a laugh and a cuppa. I’m so pissed off :(

Yet another thing we aren't allowed to do, bloody nagging women... Only joking.. yeah it's F'ed up. Again I don't mind being around women brest feeding but I would never actively be engaged in the process.

Even in my head it sounds a bit like he was either dragged along, or really wanted to be there, in either case, not really fair on other new mums who are there for medical advice and support. In the same light I wouldn't be too impressed with a wife being there at a erectile disfunction support group... (not that I've been... honest )...

workiskillingme · 07/11/2022 16:11

So basically mumbles because people who don't have Down syndrome or cancer go to a support group that means women should be made to feel utterly horrified at having a strange man seeing their exposed breast or not attend a group? 👍🏾👍🏾👍🏾👍🏾👍🏾

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Hospitals changed their policy because they were short staffed and couldn't meet basic needs of new mums.

Theluggage15 · 07/11/2022 16:12

Oh really? But Handbags seemed so nice….

Loveinacandle · 07/11/2022 16:12

Why are women sometimes so horrible to each other! Of course men should not attend specific female only support groups but if no such rule is in place, why can’t they attend. Surely you can easily understand why some women would need/want a partner there?? I personally wouldn’t have liked it if my partner wasn’t there but equally, I could go to a group with my partner if it was allowed. He was very supportive to my breastfeeding at home and did a lot of the actual latching in the initial days. It’s so childish to assume that anytime a women is feeding all men are just dying to have a look. We can and do, cater to both female only and partner inclusive spaces

ABJ100 · 07/11/2022 16:12

What support does a woman need? To hold her breast, to hold the baby, what? Posters keep saying support, but what does that mean?? I attended one of these a few years ago, men were clearly not allowed and none of this identify as women nonsense too.

lifeturnsonadime · 07/11/2022 16:12

RandomMusings7 · 07/11/2022 16:11

Handbags too? I only noticed CurlyCate.

How long until Mummbles joins them?

I think there is at least one other.

The last thing they are actually interested in is supporting women in breastfeeding.

CarmenBizet · 07/11/2022 16:12

Kiplingroad · 07/11/2022 16:11

@CarmenBizet The problem with advertising it as female only is that you then get told it's discriminatory, as "men can also breastfeed."

So women really can't win, can they? And they lose another space to these men who want to infiltrate bloody everything, even breastfeeding groups.

Then they can advertise it as 'women and nursing parents only'. I don't think anyone would have an issue with a trans dad attending.

LuckySantangelo35 · 07/11/2022 16:12

Anonymous48 · 07/11/2022 14:24

I've never heard of a breastfeeding support group so I don't know really know the set up and expectations.

My initial thought, though, is that it's a good thing that this baby's father was in attendance to support his wife. I know that when my baby was struggling to latch on and feed, my husband was very involved and I would have wanted him at a breastfeeding support group (if such a thing existed), to get all the same information as I was getting and to be able to learn how to help me with positioning the baby, etc. At that point I could have cared less about who saw my boobs. I just wanted to be able to feed my baby.

@Anonymous48
so long as you’re ok eh? What about all the other women in the group and what they want and need?

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DobbyTheHouseElk · 07/11/2022 16:13

Mummbles · 07/11/2022 16:07

I didn't claim to understand how they work... I simply pointed out that men often attend things regarding their children without it being dictated by their penis. Did you have a point to your response to me?

Maybe this isn’t the thread for you dear.

Mummbles · 07/11/2022 16:14

DobbyTheHouseElk · 07/11/2022 16:13

Maybe this isn’t the thread for you dear.

Maybe it's not the thread for you either? Off you go then dear.

workiskillingme · 07/11/2022 16:15

Theluggage15 · 07/11/2022 16:12

Oh really? But Handbags seemed so nice….

GrinGrinvery 'supportive ' of women too

Doverpuppylover · 07/11/2022 16:15

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workiskillingme · 07/11/2022 16:16

Lol mumbles nobody else is saying they quite literally have no clue what they are arguing about though although that is very apparent from many posts

DobbyTheHouseElk · 07/11/2022 16:16

Mummbles · 07/11/2022 16:14

Maybe it's not the thread for you either? Off you go then dear.

No thanks Mumbles. I’m happy here. Sorry you won’t be staying,

mothermotherm · 07/11/2022 16:16

I would not be happy with this at all. So unnecessary for him to be there.

workiskillingme · 07/11/2022 16:17

And Dover there are many many sources of support for dads that don't involve them needing to observe another woman's body. And they have no right to either

LuckySantangelo35 · 07/11/2022 16:17

Mummbles · 07/11/2022 16:14

Maybe it's not the thread for you either? Off you go then dear.

@Mummbles

a breastfeeding group is for women and women only

it needs to be a female only space

soz

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