Albanian migrants question

[Notthetoothfairy]

Everyone knows the U.K. is really short of staff since Brexit and that is pushing up prices for food etc. If we now (like it or not) have a huge influx of Albanian young men who actually want to work, wouldn’t we be better off letting them legally get jobs here and treating them like the Europeans who left?

Maybe I’m being too simplistic here but I’m not sure how keeping them unhappily detained for long periods in processing centres then spending something like £7m a day putting them in hotels without letting them work is helping anyone. Obviously it’s different if someone has just come over to claim benefits and has no intention of working but I get the impression that’s not the case for a lot of these young men.

If you think I’m wrong, you can explain why and still be nice about it 😁

If they’re here to work they should apply with all other immigrants. Not waste time claiming asylum, whilst taxpayers spend money that could go toward actually asylum seekers…

My ex is Albanian and trust me they will be coming here to deal drugs or any other illegal quick rich money scheme. Sadly there is pressure on young men to support family back home so they go for the easiest option. A lot will have links here so a cousin, uncle friend etc who can set them up in some illegal business. My ex is in prison for drug dealing as are most of his friends. It’s rife in the Albanian community amongst young men. Along with sex trafficking .

@caringcarer (and @lollipoprainbow as you’re also in support of this scheme)

This safe, legal route was closed down in 2020. This route is no longer an option.

But I do agree with both of you that these safe, legal routes are exactly what’s needed. Unfortunately, the current government has closed these safe legal routes, leading to increased boat crossings. The government knew this would increase the number of people coming by boat, but didn’t put any mitigations in place and has let Kent be overwhelmed. They didn’t hire enough staff or facilities to deal with any increase, so have wasted countless millions on hotels.

The government also rejected a deal from France to create a processing centre in Calais to process asylum seekers who want to come to the UK. The government have no plan to work with Albania to reduce the effects of trafficking. The government are lax on monitoring and punishing modern slavery in the UK, meaning crime gangs can flourish.

I’m (genuinely!) interested in why it’s still easier for you to “blame” asylum seekers (who don’t know that the UK is full, who don’t know until they get here that people who live here are desperate too - how would they?) and not the government whose lack of foresight and lack of care has caused this situation? As a small scale example, the asylum seekers don’t get to pick and choose which hotel they stay in. The Home Office do, so while I do understand your frustration, make sure you lay the blame in the right place.

Have you ever heard of a concept called 'corruption'?

They can provide beautiful women and drugs at a price.

Cop on and open your eyes.

Personally I think they should all be allowed to stay, for the reasons given in the OP. They have just as much right to live in this country as anyone else!

Albanian drug traffickers aren’t going to use a legal route. Plus visas exist which is a legal route already.

We should suffer for what we did? Can you explain exactly what it is you think we did?

wow! You win todays award for the most stupid person on the internet today!! Grow a brain you rascist idiot

No they don't

Try going to the USA and having the same expectations

They're not a race.

Idiot.

A quick read of news on Europol and NCA websites is an eyeopener. Much of their current focus seems to be on Albanian, in particular, drugs and human traffickers. These investigations are complex and cover Belgium, Netherlands, Germany, France, Spain and Italy, with drugs imported from South America and money laundered in the Middle East. This is not just a UK problem.

Maybe we would have the infrastructure and services if we allowed those people to work. People awaiting processing include doctors, dentists and nurses - we have a desperate shortage of those.

This!

I doubt you know a single Albanian personally. It's people like you, generalising and spouting bullshit that cause these ridiculous perceptions. Of course there are dodgy Albanians- just like dodgy people from every country. Your ignorance is astonishing

I lived in one of those countries and being like a doe-eyed young deer, I almost ended up being taken in by these bastards. I used to be naïve. Not anymore. They're dangerous and deadly and they operate in the underground (and no - not the tube system).

I agree that they all need to be processed much faster. My daughter works with asylum seekers and I was really shocked when she said loads of them have been here years and in one case 10 years. She said the home office are shit, difficult to get hold of and slow to respond. They can't work until they've had their claim processed even though they say they want to, and a lot she works with have skills that we are short of.

I've met a few in fact.

They really don’t.
That’s not how immigration works it it.

If they’re doctors, dentists and nurses from Albania they could apply for work visa, no?

I'm pretty sure that most of them are not doctors.

I don't think so. We would welcome such people, even trainees dental.hee.nhs.uk/dental-trainee-recruitment/right-to-work-in-the-uk#:~:text=The%20Home%20Office%20requires%20those,10%20years%2C%20aged%2018%20or

There would be absolutely no need to quit work as a dentist in Albania to go and live in a detention centre in the UK when you can simply apply to come here and leave once you get a place.