RIP Sebastian

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Fucking hell - that poor, poor boy. His mother and her partner are absolute monsters. What a disgusting world we live in :(

www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-11386701/Mother-bodybuilder-partner-jailed-39-years-murder-15-year-old-son.html

This happened not far from where I live.
Its absolutely horrific.
The video they showed of him gingerly sitting down after a beating, broke my heart.
I've raised 2 boys who I adore. How his mother and her partner could do this to that lovely boy is beyond me

@Vegay Probably nothing was going through his head - it's called disassociation. It's the only way to survive such atrocities.

While sympathising with Sebastian, I attempted to steer this conversation in a different direction, but it didn't work. My question being: what purpose is served by newspapers publicising stories such as this one? They are just turning it into some kind of gruesome entertainment, IMO.

@BaffledShopper Not sure about in the UK, but where I am the public are able to send letters to the Gov General, applicable Ministers etc on these sorts of issues. Obviously 99.9% are hysterical, based on pure emotion, lynch mob mentality, get scanned and filed in the bin. However, sometimes, if crafted correctly, they will be provided to the sentencing judge as a representative public submission and will also be used at some point in a general sense when deciding yardsticks for considerations and parameters for sentencing in general. I have been contacted and asked if I provide permission for my correspondence to be used on both of these fronts in the past. If these things are hidden from us via suppression in the press, how would this be achieved?

Seeing him in his school uniform was harrowing. RIP Sebastian.

I don’t think anyone bit because your question is so ridiculous it doesn’t merit a response, quite frankly.

@BaffledShopper (Although I did actually respond to you on page two of the thread, which you seem to have either missed or ignored).

This.

Maybe put a warning in the title.

Shocking story.

And they have been allowed to marry?!

I can't comprehend how a mother can do this to their own child. Its horrific.
And agree with pp that there seems to be many cases lately where a parent gets together with a new partner and is either complicit in , or actively involved in beating and killing their own child. Is it happening more often, or is it reported on more than it used to be?

Such a sad and tragic case
That poor boy deserved so much better in life
I hope they rot in jail

So very cruel. My mother was like this twat of a mother. My dad would hurt me after work and then the next morning she'd take over. I remember my dad having a massive go at her because she'd left a mark on my face. He said no no no not the face, not ever on the face. Because then people would see and they couldn't have that, that's all they cared about and I wonder if it's the same here. His ribs being broken, no one can see that so easily, needle marks, no one can see. These sadistic sickos know what they're doing.

I am so sad for these cases. Nothing ever changes though.

You didn't actually respond to my question — you just told me how ridiculous and stupid it was.

So I'll rephrase it — what good does it do you, me and all the people on this thread to know all the details of how a boy we never knew was tortured and killed?
What positive change will occur in the world as a result?

@GyozaGuiting I understand your point about collective grief but in this case it's something none of us would have ever known about had it not been reported/sensationalized in the press.

By reading this perhaps just one person will ask a neighbour’s child if they are ok, or knock on a door because they haven’t seen the child for weeks etc.

Im really noisy and will step into something before I think. The other day I was driving past a large group of teenagers and it looked like one lad was being beaten up. I stopped, opened my window and asked the lad if he wanted to get in my car for safety. They all looked at me as though I was bonkers and then it dawned on them and they apologised to me and said they were messing, including the “victim”. My teenage son sat next to me asked my why I stopped. I said it would have played on my mind all night if I had ignored it. We all need to stop and ask and perhaps interfere more. As these lads proved, if nothing is happening then no one is concerned.

This should be reported in the news. It stops us all being in our little safe cosy bubbles and makes us realise that not everyone is kind, nice etc. A large %age of society needs to wake up and realise the abuse that goes on, women, children and men, the appalling poverty in this country, the lack of education for some sections of society, we need more money in the public sector, more social workers, etc etc. I know myself I would rather not know that some children go to school without breakfast or tea the night before - it upsets me - but it does mean I’m aware of it so I can do something about it whether it’s donating to a school, helping at a food bank, etc etc.

How on earth do they think they will get away with it.
They must realise that eventually the poor child will die.
Always seems to follow a pattern. The child is abused daily and gets weaker and weaker and then a final blow or punch kills them.

Oh I am so so sorry how awful. I hope you are ok.

Terrible tragedy. The poor boy. Though I haven't read anything about this one before.

Another woman who is so desperate for a man and puts him before her child. She brought him into his life!! Evil woman😡

I admit I avoid reading these articles if I spot them. I don't want to read the inevitable facts about how they were tortured or killed. I don't know if that's cowardly or not.

That sums it up. The majority of cases I seem to see are from women choosing abusive men. There's absolutely no excuse for anyone to ever sit there and allow their child to be abused. Children should come first, before a parents love life.

I hope they get a torrent of unleashed abuse in prison and the guards turn a blind eye....