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To want SD’s to share a room?

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jopejob511 · 03/11/2022 12:14

DS is almost 20 and in his 2nd year of uni. He struggled during the first year but managed to get through it. This year, he's been struggling but agreed to stay and I went to visit him a few times. A few days ago was the anniversary of his dads death (12 years ago, not recently but obviously it's still affected him) which seems to have hit him hard as expected. He called me last night crying saying he wants to come home so I agreed at the weekend ill go and get him.

The issue is his room, he sleeps in it when he's here but when away SD(12) sleeps in it as she doesn't want to share with her sister (7), they come here every other week and stay for the week. The issue is they're also coming this Sunday. DP has said I'm BU for wanting them to share and DS is almost 20 so if he can't cope in uni he should find somewhere else to stay, for example a hotel. I've told him I don't expect him to do that as this is his home we then argued about how this is also SD’s home etc.

Was I bu?

OP posts:
Mummyoflittledragon · 04/11/2022 19:39

I think the timeline goes by age for your ds:

8 - your ds’s dad sadly passes away
15 - you meet your partner
17 - he moves in your house, 2 month later the relationship with your ds sours
18 - your ds attempts suicide, the relationship with your partner does not improve
19/20 - he continues to berate your ds and accuses him of being rude
20 - your partner decides your fragile son should not return to his family home

How much joy has your ds had in his life op? It sounds as though the last 3 years have been especially tough for him and coincided with your partner moving in.

Have you asked your ds what he thinks of this man? I hope your ds can be honest and tell you how he truly feels about the man you’ve moved in and apparently cannot stand him.

fatgirlslimmer · 04/11/2022 19:42

jopejob511 · 04/11/2022 18:04

I have told him, at first he was saying it wasn't fair on his DDs as they were expecting to stay for the week, he said their mum won't be happy but has said he'll ask a family member if he can stay with them.

@Theskyisfallingdown that wont happen at all, I've told DS if he doesn't feel he can go back on Monday, then its fine and he can stay for as long as he needs too as its his home.

If my DP had to move out so that my DS could come home he would not be coming back.

Time and time again parents put their partner before their children and then wonder why the children are fucked up.

How do you think your DS feels knowing your DP has moved out and will stay away as long as he is there but will return once he’s gone?

ffs your son is vulnerable and he has this shit to deal with

Have a think, how is your relationship good if he doesn’t respect you enough to treat your son well?

fatgirlslimmer · 04/11/2022 19:49

Oh @Mummyoflittledragon that timeline 😔

Liorae · 04/11/2022 20:18

Mummyoflittledragon · 04/11/2022 19:39

I think the timeline goes by age for your ds:

8 - your ds’s dad sadly passes away
15 - you meet your partner
17 - he moves in your house, 2 month later the relationship with your ds sours
18 - your ds attempts suicide, the relationship with your partner does not improve
19/20 - he continues to berate your ds and accuses him of being rude
20 - your partner decides your fragile son should not return to his family home

How much joy has your ds had in his life op? It sounds as though the last 3 years have been especially tough for him and coincided with your partner moving in.

Have you asked your ds what he thinks of this man? I hope your ds can be honest and tell you how he truly feels about the man you’ve moved in and apparently cannot stand him.

I don't think that the OP needs to ask. That they haven't spoken for years tells the tale.

Inyournewdress · 04/11/2022 20:45

I don’t understand how a relationship can be - so bad that he has to move out in order for your son to be able to be at home, but yet too good to end.

This man not only doesn’t care about your son and has a complete disregard for his well-being (and therefore by extension yours) but he seems to actively want to make things worse. There is no ‘otherwise good’ with someone who doesn’t care or support you in caring for a vulnerable young man and the most important person in your life. Not supporting you in that makes him not only not a good partner, it makes him an actual enemy.

Make no mistake OP…this man doesn’t just not get on with your DS. He doesn’t care at all about you. If you stopped adding helpful things like a home to his life, you’d be disposable.

You need to get rid of him and not let your DS feel that you are keeping your partner in the wings waiting for a time when DS is elsewhere to move him back in, or that you want to be with a man who has shown your DS such disregard. But also make sure your DS doesn’t blame himself for the split, make it clear that while no one comes above your DS you haven’t lost anything in getting rid of a man you realised doesn’t care about you.

If you doubt this try finishing this sentence, ‘the man who wont let me support my beloved, vulnerable and potentially suicidal son still definitely really cares about me because…..’. Because what? What will make up for your son’s pain and yours if your child is suffering or worse? How do you do that to someone you give even the tiniest shit about? Most people wouldn’t do it to a stranger.

ThisIsPlanetEarth · 04/11/2022 20:59

billy1966 · 04/11/2022 18:35

Can you see his priority and narrative here OP?

His daughters.
Their mother.
His Ex.

Everyone to be accommodated, except YOUR son, whose home this is.

Your fragile, vulnerable son who has already tried to take his life .....really doesn't figure at all.

His daughters.
Their comfort.
His ex.
Their mother.

Your son and his life really doesn't concern him.

He thinks your vulnerable son should sit alone with his sadness, desperation and grief, in some hotel, while his children are in your sons home.

It's really horrifying.

Because him, his girls, his family, his ex, CANNOT be inconvenienced in ANY way.

You and your home are a convenience for him.

Your son and his life are collateral in this situation.

I'm asking you to try and be brave and wake up to exactly what is going on here.

It is such an awful thread.

Don't allow that poor boy become another sad statistic.

This. Your poor son. Is he at home now, hope he's feeling a bit better. As said before your "D" partner seems to have no interest in your son.
You said it's your house and presume you're not married to him. Think its time for the partner to leave permanently.

Badger1970 · 04/11/2022 21:09

This thread is really upsetting.

That poor poor lad.

AhNowTed · 04/11/2022 21:13

The story is all too familiar.

Step parent resents partners child and tries to push them out. Does utmost to alienate step child who asked for none of this.

So many times Envy

AhNowTed · 04/11/2022 21:15

Badger1970 · 04/11/2022 21:09

This thread is really upsetting.

That poor poor lad.

I know. Lad is still only 19 FFS.

JangolinaPitt · 04/11/2022 21:18

Badger1970 · 04/11/2022 21:09

This thread is really upsetting.

That poor poor lad.

Indeed ☹️☹️☹️

WhosafraidofVirginiaWoolf · 04/11/2022 22:37

I really hope you are starting to connect the dots now OP?

I'm sad to see that you confirmed my suspicions that this cocklodger had nowhere to live of his own and was unable to have his DD's until you came along.

Then you walked into his life and all his prayers were answered, cheap housing, no food bills to pay and best of all he can play disney dad at your expense by having his girls 50/50 and therefore not having to pay any maintenance, thus saving him even more money.

There was only one fly in this ointment - your poor DS.

You have been manipulated in the most horrendous way and now it's time to open your eyes and see him for what he really is.

As you have already said, this is literally a matter of life and death for your DS with his MH history.

Is this "D"P worth that?

nettie434 · 04/11/2022 23:26

Mummyoflittledragon · 04/11/2022 19:39

I think the timeline goes by age for your ds:

8 - your ds’s dad sadly passes away
15 - you meet your partner
17 - he moves in your house, 2 month later the relationship with your ds sours
18 - your ds attempts suicide, the relationship with your partner does not improve
19/20 - he continues to berate your ds and accuses him of being rude
20 - your partner decides your fragile son should not return to his family home

How much joy has your ds had in his life op? It sounds as though the last 3 years have been especially tough for him and coincided with your partner moving in.

Have you asked your ds what he thinks of this man? I hope your ds can be honest and tell you how he truly feels about the man you’ve moved in and apparently cannot stand him.

This is a heartbreaking timeline. I know you want only the best for your son and that it must have been so hard to be bereaved with a young son but it is not good that your partner seems to have made so little effort to build a relationship with your son and that things have been like this for so long.

girlmom21 · 05/11/2022 08:42

jopejob511 · 04/11/2022 18:46

I don't plan on leaving him as the relationship overall is good, apart from him treating Ds like this. But if DS decides to leave uni then I will suggest him move out permanently for the time being.

You're not planning on leaving a man who insists on mentally abusing your unwell son?

Maybe it is best he goes to his grandparents after all.

Lovemusic33 · 05/11/2022 08:51

Such a sad thread. I hope OP see’s since before it’s too late. What if next time DS is successful at taking his life?

OP, your DS has had a awful time after losing his father, you then moved a new man into the house, a man he doesn’t get along with, he’s attempted suicide and moved to uni, he’s now feeling low and wants to come home but your choosing your dp over him. This is the house he calls home, I’m guessing the house his father lived in?

rookiemere · 05/11/2022 08:58

I think we need to calm down with the hyperbole a bit.

OP is perfectly entitled to move on with her life 7 years after her DH passed away, and to move her DP in if she chooses.

It's just unfortunate that the man in question subsequently turned out to be a bad choice and that the DS has mental heath issues.

Her DS is not Tiny Tim. It reads as if OP has had a wake up call about her DPs behaviour.

NannyOggsWhiskyStash · 05/11/2022 09:12

MarieIVanArkleStinks · 04/11/2022 19:36

This thread's starting to resemble Swiss cheese. It will only be pulled completely if some posters don't rein it in.

A woman is not going to leave her partner because a bunch of fonts on the internet have told her to. In fact, if you continue insulting her in the same vein, she will likely double down, and convince herself that because they've given her a good old font-kicking that makes them wrong in everything they've said. For the most part, I don't think they are, but attacking OP like this isn't going to help her and it certainly will not help her son.

Sometimes people have to realize on their own that something in their relationship is seriously awry, and that theirs is not the good partner they previously thought. That realization might take time to sink in. It rarely happens overnight, and the moment when the scales fall from your eyes is painful and difficult to face.

OP, you've seen what a large number of anonymous women on the internet think, and I hope you'll at least take account of what some of the more measured posters are suggesting. In the immediate short-term, you're doing what's in the best interests of your son. In the medium- to long-term, though, I'd be giving far more careful thought as to the real effects of his presence in your son's life, as well as his future and your own.

This. I feel that some posters are being unecessarily cruel. The op needs to come to this realisation herself, or at the very least put some strong boundaries in place. The partners children should not be given priority over her son. I am just not sure what she is getting out of this imbalanced relationship.

Clymene · 05/11/2022 10:04

I'm sorry @jopejob511, this thread must be very hard to read.

While your son is home with you and your partner is staying elsewhere, I'd have an honest evaluation of what you mean when you say your partner is 'good'.

Is he always kind to you? Does he make you feel cherished, respected, valued? Does he ensure that he contributes his fair share financially and in household labour - not just for him but for his children? Does he do those things without being asked but because he recognises he needs to contribute equally? Does he take on the lion's share of care for his children when they stay in your house? Does he recognise how lucky he is that you have housed him and his children?

These are the minimum things he should be doing to qualify as a 'good' partner.

I would also say that this is a pivotal moment in you deciding whose needs and wishes you should prioritise - you child's or your boyfriend's. Your son will be your son for life. Your boyfriend could walk out at any moment. Ask yourself honestly if you think he'd be with you if he had his own home and you weren't around to help out with childcare?

And point of fact for everyone on the timeline. The OP's son is not yet 20, he's still 19.

InsertPunHere · 05/11/2022 12:11

I hope your lad is able to find the solace he needs, @jopejob511 . I'm sure you'd willingly take on all his pain in a heartbeat, and it's so awful to see our lads in suych distress.
Sending best wishes to you both.

Testina · 05/11/2022 12:23

“I don't plan on leaving him as the relationship overall is good, apart from him treating Ds like this.”

That is one massive “apart from” though - surely?

Liorae · 05/11/2022 13:18

OP are you financially dependent on this guy? I can't think of any other reason you would stay.

LeMoo · 05/11/2022 13:22

Not read all the replies.

Yanbu. Your dp is being an arse - I think he's very threatened by your son.

pinkyredrose · 05/11/2022 14:24

It's a bit rich that he's expecting you to provide his daughter's with something that he never provided them with himself.

He saw you (and your house) coming!

Emotionalsupportviper · 05/11/2022 14:58

LeMoo · 05/11/2022 13:22

Not read all the replies.

Yanbu. Your dp is being an arse - I think he's very threatened by your son.

Agree - I think he sees OP's son as a threat to his financial security. OP will obviously prioritise her son , and it may be that he will need help to cope (including financial) and a place in his mam's home for some time yet, and the partner doesn't like this.

OnlyOP can say how valuable this relationship is, and maybe the two of them are usually very happy with each other, but there seems to be a disturbing undercurrent of jealousy and entitlement which I think OP is just becoming properly aware of.

There may, for all we know, be faults on both sides - the son resenting the partner, and the partner losing patience with the son - but this doesn't alter the fact that OP's son is vulnerable and needs to know that he has a supportive family home to go back to whenever he needs it, and he has to be her priority.

I don't envy OP as she is trying to balance the two of them. She obviously loves her son and is prioritising his needs, but has deep feelings for her partner, too.

Emotionalsupportviper · 05/11/2022 15:00

Posted too soon.

A big red flag, though, is this man effectively trying to make her choose between them, and telling her who she should have in her home, and who should stay somewhere else. This isn't the action of a caring partner IMO.

billy1966 · 05/11/2022 15:13

By trying to dictate if her son can come home, he is threatened and extremely controlling.

By having his children every other week, he no longer probably pays CM.

The OP supplys a home AND free food for him and his children.

He throws her a few bob towards utilities.

So he is wining big time here financially, and is protecting himself primarily.

This is ALL about what works for HIM.

He hasn't provided a home for his own children ever, independently, so like most users and CF's,....... is determined to protect his nice little set up which works so well for HIM financially.

He could care less about the OP's son.

His agenda is to protect his free accommodation and free food at any cost.

He's a tosser.

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