To not understand the nastiness that being a housewife provokes 2

[Alondra]

Apologies for making a second part to this thread but I feel strongly about this issue.

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Possibly because there aren't any benefits

Few countries have a government system caring about women and children. The majority of our governments don't care if all have to work for a pittance to pay mortgage, bills and food when children are small because average couples need both wages. A system where nursery fees are stratospheric and eating half an average wage, and worse still, because parents working full time, making an average pay to be able to survive, have few serious tax concessions. Those tax concessions go to multinationals.

It's a system that only cares about productivity attached to $. If you are an engineer with projects worth a million dollars, your salary will be minimum 15% of that money annually. If you are a carer or a parent, there is no quoted money attached to your work, so you are in a low wage or no wage at all.

A woman with two kids working full time for an average salary has not gained much from my mother’s time. Working full time, taking care of the kids when they are home and doing the lion share of housework and rarely free time at all.

With housing costs, bills and health systems collapsing, I really fear for women in the next few years. We will get the short straw as we've always done, but it'll be a plus if, at least, we don't turn on each other.

You're not right about it at all lmao. And stalking me between threads is bizarre behaviour. Absolutely unhinged.

Then you've either lied on your previous posts or you're lying now :)

This thread is absolutely weapons grade 🦇 💩

However ... 🍿

Haven't lied about anything but nice dodge at the point of you stalking me between threads.

I read the last thread and note life is all about choice. However, respect is not a given.

Those with fulfilling lives of any kind do not generally protest to much either... or seek validation from others

Isn't it just! I feel like I'm sitting under the table to avoid the flying crockery

It's entirely a choice , except plenty of women don't have that choice open to them, some work because they choose to, some do because they have to. Life isn't black and white

All I will say is that having screw all on your CV apart from homemaking , valuable as that is, can leave you very vulnerable in the future should your relationship turn to mush - whether married or not -

You can think whatever the hell you want, doesn't mean it's correct or has any basis in reality. Your assessment, like most peoples on this thread, is incorrect.

This is why I and others come to the conclusion some of you might be jealous. You make sweeping generalisations about women you don't know and ridiculous assumptions, all because you can't accept that some people really do have wonderful relationships.

I'm actually proud of stalking. It's all public posts on mumsnet. You shared all those facts freely on here. Now you have an expectation of privacy? Should have namechamged.

Why would I not look it up? It really gives a more robust picture of the whole thing.

It's just weird behaviour. I never search people's names because frankly I just don't care that much.

But keep filling in the blanks incorrectly and giving me a good laugh.

Do you actually think the question "has a SAHM ever rammed yo with her buggy in Tesco" was serious? Really? Are you always this literal and take everything that seriously?

Not at all because I can't imagine I'd want to be married to anyone other than my husband, however I'm happy you feel that way - everyone should feel like that about their relationship.

If you hadn't posted 200+ times these past 2 days I would take the time to look up your exact quotes on each of those things, cause I'm petty like that.

But as it happens I have a life outside MN drama, so I won't go foraging for hours just to prove what I already know, @AMorningstar 🤷‍♀️

Given they took me saying "I don't want to spend all day in a shit cubicle getting yelled at" as me thinking every job involved a cubicle - yes they are.

Really good post.

And I can be a scruffy exhausted mess at the end of a busy, challenging and interesting day at work. But it's nice to get home, open the wine and have a chat about our days (we work in different but related fields so find each other's work interesting, DH also a manager but I tend to see things from the employee perspective). Horses for courses and all that but we enjoy taking about these things, and as our kids get older they sometimes like to come in to work and get involved at the weekends.

(Unfortunately having tidy eyebrows probably does fall by the wayside for us both)

You don't know shit though lol that's the point. You've made up stuff to fill the gaps because you think it will annoy me when I find it mildly amusing if anything. I've been gutted about being sick on Halloween but you're providing some entertainment so crack on.

This. Also op from the other thread had a whole host of goady things to say such as how she has more energy for sex and to look nice for her dh because she hasn’t got a job (her dhs job apparently not interfering with his ability to look good or have sex). It was silly goady stuff, not anything to take seriously

I get and respect being a stay at home parent.... I think you need to earn your own living if you want to name yourself a functional adult
So you respect being a SAHP but don't think they're functional adults? Luckily the hospital who discharged a medically vulnerable baby to me accepted I was one. Clearly I shouldn't have been trusted with him, not being a functional adult myself

Except that's not true, is it?

I've answered you (as @TartanGirl1 said) every time you've asked.

And you've asked a lot

Yet every time there's another thread, back you come again. Saying I'm obsessed.
So for the final time. I'm not obsessed with sahms. The previous thread wasn't even about sahms. It was about housewives.I find gender politics interesting. Womens views on sexism and their role in society interesting. I like the clear cut debate of 2 opposing sides. I find the hypocrisy amusing. The backtracking and paradoxes even more so. I'm easily bored and don't like being bored. I like to keep mind active and engaged. I post on lots of other subjects.I dont have (and have repeatedly said so) a problem with any choice individual women make, crack on. Do what makes you happy. But don't pretend choices don't have wider societal impacts or that any choice is above judgement or criticism

Why do you care enough to not just comment once, but go on and on for days / months / years? It's very extreme.

Answer your own question. Or at the very least have the decency to acknowledge what I've actually said rather than the weird thing you've made up in your head.

Someone asked why it would lead to a happier relationship. I said more time to invest in yourself and your partner is one advantage. You've taken it massively out of context and exaggerated what was said.

It's curious that you cannot imagine employment may also be such an investment in one's self

Not in the sense of it bringing something to the relationship. My husband doesn't define himself by his job nor constantly talk about it

@AMorningstar is apparently in her 20s so must have been married for all of five minutes. But she 100% knows she won’t get divorced as she doesn’t believe in it.