To not understand the nastiness that being a housewife provokes 2

[Alondra]

Apologies for making a second part to this thread but I feel strongly about this issue.

Topgub

Possibly because there aren't any benefits

Few countries have a government system caring about women and children. The majority of our governments don't care if all have to work for a pittance to pay mortgage, bills and food when children are small because average couples need both wages. A system where nursery fees are stratospheric and eating half an average wage, and worse still, because parents working full time, making an average pay to be able to survive, have few serious tax concessions. Those tax concessions go to multinationals.

It's a system that only cares about productivity attached to $. If you are an engineer with projects worth a million dollars, your salary will be minimum 15% of that money annually. If you are a carer or a parent, there is no quoted money attached to your work, so you are in a low wage or no wage at all.

A woman with two kids working full time for an average salary has not gained much from my mother’s time. Working full time, taking care of the kids when they are home and doing the lion share of housework and rarely free time at all.

With housing costs, bills and health systems collapsing, I really fear for women in the next few years. We will get the short straw as we've always done, but it'll be a plus if, at least, we don't turn on each other.

There are plenty of posters in this thread and others. Let's not narrow the comments, you can read and understand information just as well as I can.
Just in case fallacy.
Every decision you make has both costs and benefits.
Fallacious arguments, like the ones in this thread, will attempt to get you to make a decision out of fear rather than reason.
Mumsnet narrative.

@RedAppleGirl I've genuinely not seen anyone say or even imply it.

The entire post is fucking offensive and ironically, misogynistic. Calling women who's ambitions lie outside the home weak and childlike - hilarious when the average office worker is overweight and unhealthy meanwhile I'm someone who lifts 4x per week. I really, really do not care if you find my views offensive. In fact you sound like such a delightful person yourself that I'm positively overjoyed I've caused you some angst. You can stay as mad as you want but it won't change anything.

But then. I've never seen antibes be nasty about the sahm or housewive role either.

Just honest.

Also he doesn't work "long hours" and I never said he did. He works from home, with flexible hours, he gets to pick them himself. He works a normal amount of hours. The hilariously wrong assumptions about my life here are brilliant - just ask me if you want to know something, rather than making up some stupid narrative to fit your argument.

You've not seen any of the comments I've received then?

I'm sure you'll get plenty of engagement with an offensive post like that.
Platting pubes.🙄😂
Are You Margaret Attwood?

They were directed at you. Personally.

They weren't about the role in general.

That made me chuckle as well. Can't say I've ever tried it myself but I'm not about to kinkshame her.

Just basing on what Morningstar has confirmed so far - she doesn't work so she can rest and relax and make sure she looks suitably pretty for her DH when he arrives home.

Likewise my replies were directed at individuals rather than working mothers in general.

@AMorningstar

If you say so

I'd also say sitting around plaiting pubes is as valuable as anything else morningstar contributes to society. That and staring into space I suppose

What do you do for voluntary work @morningstar if that was you?

See, I'm projecting a little because of the loud, anti social neighbour across the road who is a 'housewife' (her children are at school) and that means shout outside, or on her phone, disturbing the retired (it's a quiet area of retired elderly people otherwise) and those working from home like me.

But I think it's a good idea to have some financial independence and it's a good example to set to your daughters, and sons, if you have them.

Do we have another housewife here? Gosh you and Morningstar should meet up for a coffee and perhaps start working on your first wives club memberships

Maybe you're just not pretty enough for a man to allow you to sit around all day.
Vindictive comments usually come from a place of envy not care or concern.

I used to volunteer helping disabled children.

It's a bit weird to judge everyone by one annoying person you know.

It's really not and I'm amazed someone with such low intelligence to the point they are unable to perform basic adult tasks or function without a daddy/husband (I imagine you use this interchangably) has the cheek to suggest someone else is stupid 😂

We were all thinking it lol.

Why are you determined to continue to show us you can't read? We already know.

I would actually say I'm quite easy on the eye and have certainly never had any compliants. However, I tend to value my worth on my mind and skills rather than my tits and hair. If that's all you have to offer a man it's very upsetting. Never mind.

Sigh

You all look ridiculous