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To not understand the nastiness that being a housewife provokes

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AMorningstar · 30/10/2022 17:43

Not just on MN. I don't even use MN that often but I see this on other social media websites too. If a woman shares something positive about being a housewife it's full of comments about how "being controlled by a man, couldn't be me!" "No thanks, I love my independence" or "just wait until he leaves you, then what". If a woman shares something negative about it its "see, this is why being a housewife is TERRIBLE" (yet no one would say "this is why having a career is terrible!" If a person was complaining about their job)

I saw someone earlier say they'd be devastated if their daughter wanted to be a SAHM.

Why does it provoke such vitriol? Other women choosing this doesn't force anyone else to, I don't get the complete lack of respect for people's decisions and lack of understanding that different people enjoy different things.

OP posts:
LydiaBennetsUglyBonnet · 30/10/2022 23:01

I agree with this. I would be very disappointed, but I know my daughters won't choose that path.

I really can’t get past this train of thought. It’s actually quite sad.

Some people’s kids are addicted to drugs, or steal for a living, or in prison - there are very few things which would make me ‘very disappointed’ in my kids and being SAHM is certainly not one of them.

Also you have no idea what they’ll do when they have kids, but I really hope you would support them and keep your judgement to yourself.

AlwaysLatte · 30/10/2022 23:01

I think it really depends on circumstance. It's quite risky if you are a SAHM/housewife (or whatever you want to call it) without any personal financial backup as things can go belly up if your OH decides to take off. But if you have your own security, why not. I've really enjoyed being a SAHM to my two (oldest is now 14) and it sort of merged into retirement BUT I did own my own house outright when we met, and no financial obligations, so it wasn't a risk.

Fairylightsongs · 30/10/2022 23:01

I think the op is still quite young and really immature. In a few years she will look back on this thread and cringe. Not least because of silly comments like she’d rather raise her kids than be a wage slave. Because anyone who works doesn’t raise their own kids. Right.

immature, self absorbed. I am not sure why anyone is taking the time with her

AMorningstar · 30/10/2022 23:02

zinfren · 30/10/2022 22:58

The fact you keep mentioning TV, when I don't even watch it, is again showing a lack of imagination on your part.

I think you protest too much 😉
My apologies I was certain you said you watched daytime TV.

Never said I watch it. The closet thing to TV I watch is anime, but that's streamed on a laptop and I watch it with my husband so I don't think thats what you were getting at. I'm sure youll find something wrong with that too though

OP posts:
LydiaBennetsUglyBonnet · 30/10/2022 23:03

Topgub · 30/10/2022 22:33

@AMorningstar

Yet you clearly don't support or respect women who work.

🤷‍♀️

OP clearly doesn’t care if other women work but if you RTFT you will see the completely vile and nasty posts targeted to her and all SAHMs. No one is perfect and I’d challenge anyone not to bite back. Yet OP is the only one being called out and not the total wankers who told her she’s an embarrasment.

AMorningstar · 30/10/2022 23:04

LydiaBennetsUglyBonnet · 30/10/2022 23:01

I agree with this. I would be very disappointed, but I know my daughters won't choose that path.

I really can’t get past this train of thought. It’s actually quite sad.

Some people’s kids are addicted to drugs, or steal for a living, or in prison - there are very few things which would make me ‘very disappointed’ in my kids and being SAHM is certainly not one of them.

Also you have no idea what they’ll do when they have kids, but I really hope you would support them and keep your judgement to yourself.

Same. I don't get people who push certain lifestyles on their kids. My ambition for mine is to be happy, whatever that looks like for them.

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GerronBuzanDoThaWomwok · 30/10/2022 23:04

All the petulance around OP's example of an unspecified workplace cubicle is fascinating. She has obviously touched a raw nerve, given some of the responses on here. As I said earlier, jealousy, or perhaps envy, pure and simple. 😎Heaven forbid that a husband and wife choose how to live in defiance of the pursed lips brigade!!!! And the mothers who would be aghast if their daughters chose to stay at home on the grounds of wasting their education? What a sad and reductionist view of both education and their children's happiness.

LydiaBennetsUglyBonnet · 30/10/2022 23:05

SystemOfAFrowns · 30/10/2022 22:34

You’re aware that many full time jobs aren’t actually bums on seats grinding away for 40 hours a week right?

I work full time, earn 6 figures yet do about 2-3 hours of actual work a day

Same applied to most I work with and 90% of my family and friends who have office based WFH roles.

So you either don’t work FT or you skive for the majority of the day.

I love these only-on-MN Unicorn jobs of a woman earning six figures by seemingly sitting doing fuck all. I don’t buy it for a minute

AlwaysLatte · 30/10/2022 23:05

(I would 100% encourage my children to be financially self sufficient)

AMorningstar · 30/10/2022 23:06

LydiaBennetsUglyBonnet · 30/10/2022 23:03

OP clearly doesn’t care if other women work but if you RTFT you will see the completely vile and nasty posts targeted to her and all SAHMs. No one is perfect and I’d challenge anyone not to bite back. Yet OP is the only one being called out and not the total wankers who told her she’s an embarrasment.

This really frustrates me. These posters are SILENT at the abuse directed towards me but if I say anything back, suddenly I'm the villain.

Shows theyre disingenous and only care about "their side" being insulted.

For the record I do not think negatively of women who work. I think negatively of women who think working makes them superior.

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Topgub · 30/10/2022 23:07

@LydiaBennetsUglyBonnet

Sure. Sure.

The op started the thread and got exactly what they wanted

(I haven't read the full thread, I've read all the others)

The not me guv act is wearing thin.

Fairylightsongs · 30/10/2022 23:07

Op, look you’re not going to get validation for your life aspirations of never working on here. You’re a woman in her twenties who has decided she’d rather never work a day in her life. That’s great. You and your husband crack on with the things you’re both into. You don’t need to keep over sharing and you don’t need anyone else’s validation.

FlamencoDance · 30/10/2022 23:08

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This has been withdrawn by MNHQ at the poster’s request.

GerronBuzanDoThaWomwok · 30/10/2022 23:08

Fairylightsongs · 30/10/2022 23:01

I think the op is still quite young and really immature. In a few years she will look back on this thread and cringe. Not least because of silly comments like she’d rather raise her kids than be a wage slave. Because anyone who works doesn’t raise their own kids. Right.

immature, self absorbed. I am not sure why anyone is taking the time with her

jog on, love 😂

LydiaBennetsUglyBonnet · 30/10/2022 23:08

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This has been withdrawn by MNHQ at the poster’s request.

I don’t believe anyone said they were jobs.

This is how you’ve been exceptionally rude - PA and patronising comments with a huge dose of smugness

SofiaSoFar · 30/10/2022 23:09

LydiaBennetsUglyBonnet · 30/10/2022 23:05

So you either don’t work FT or you skive for the majority of the day.

I love these only-on-MN Unicorn jobs of a woman earning six figures by seemingly sitting doing fuck all. I don’t buy it for a minute

You've clearly got no idea of the world of work that many of us inhabit, have you.

Still, why would you know...

Topgub · 30/10/2022 23:09

@AMorningstar

Do you think negatively of women who think not working makes them superior?

IhateHermioneGranger · 30/10/2022 23:09

Do you have a plan for your pension if you never plan to work OP?

Topgub · 30/10/2022 23:09

@LydiaBennetsUglyBonnet

Pot kettle much.

AMorningstar · 30/10/2022 23:10

Fairylightsongs · 30/10/2022 23:07

Op, look you’re not going to get validation for your life aspirations of never working on here. You’re a woman in her twenties who has decided she’d rather never work a day in her life. That’s great. You and your husband crack on with the things you’re both into. You don’t need to keep over sharing and you don’t need anyone else’s validation.

I don't want anyones validation, thanks. I want people to stop spreading vitriol. Over sharing doesn't exisy btw, if you don't like what I post you can click off at any time. You're a big girl I'm sure you know how to log off by yourself

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GerronBuzanDoThaWomwok · 30/10/2022 23:11

Fairylightsongs · 30/10/2022 23:07

Op, look you’re not going to get validation for your life aspirations of never working on here. You’re a woman in her twenties who has decided she’d rather never work a day in her life. That’s great. You and your husband crack on with the things you’re both into. You don’t need to keep over sharing and you don’t need anyone else’s validation.

Fairylight, you're still here?

AMorningstar · 30/10/2022 23:11

Topgub · 30/10/2022 23:09

@AMorningstar

Do you think negatively of women who think not working makes them superior?

Don't think I or anyone else here has said not working makes us superior.

OP posts:
LydiaBennetsUglyBonnet · 30/10/2022 23:12

AMorningstar · 30/10/2022 22:50

I literally only said it once, to one person, who accuaed my husband of having an affair because i mentioned he was vocal about how important faithfulness is in a relationship. I cannot see any other reason someone would see that and say "well I bet he's having an affair anyway" thats just bitterness

Honestly OP I’d just give up now. You can argue til you’re blue in the face and many posters will only see you as some lazy handmaiden whose purpose in life is to watch Holly & Phil.

Topgub · 30/10/2022 23:13

@AMorningstar

That wasn't what I asked

I'm sure it's been implied

Your comments alone suggest it.

IhateHermioneGranger · 30/10/2022 23:13

AMorningstar · 30/10/2022 23:11

Don't think I or anyone else here has said not working makes us superior.

"Most people don't pick their kids up at 3pm" etc..

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