Does Sunak hate women?? His new Minister for Women Appointment is 100% anti-abortion.

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Just learned that Sunak has appointed Maria Caulfield as his Minister for Women! This is an MP who voted against legalizing abortion in Northern Ireland and wants the time-limit for abortion in the UK reduced. She has stood up in Parliament and lied, outright lied with a nonsense claim that fetuses born at 18 weeks have lived long and healthy lives - 100% untrue. She is against buffer zones outside clinics and she's a past officer of a pro-life, anti-abortion organisation.

WTF!! This is who Sunak thinks will look out for women's interests? 90% of the UK public support legal abortion, 1 in 3 women will need an abortion at some point.

There's a lot we don't actually know about Sunak and what sort of man he is but we're learning quickly...

His insane appointments are all about keeping the hard right of the party appeased.

Agree an utterly bizarre choice!
But then every time I think "we have seen it all now" something like this gets announced.
Tories won't be happy until they've destroyed absolutely everything we could and should hold dear to us.

Ironically this must helpLabour in a coming election. I'm very frustrated by Labours cowardice on trans issues but Sunak has gifted them by appointing this extremist.

Ah - but some people say they will never ever vote Labour because they don’t know what a woman is or, as I read in a post here in a different thread, “Labour have decimated women’s rights”.

I agree that vigilance and action are necessary so that women’s sex based rights aren’t removed but the Tories are much worse for women in general.

Yeah but he knows what a woman is so that's all that matters apparently 🤷🏼‍♀️

YANBU. How can someone who wishes to be a voice for the unborn and has voted to prevent UK women having access to abortion work for us?

The Tories are damaging to women.

@HeidiCr, bodily autonomy should be held dear. It was hard fought and won.

As I just said on the other thread about this, I trust women to make the right choice and I hope she does too.
As long as she doesn't change anything, it largely doesn't matter what she thinks about it all. And the government have much bigger fish to fry, so unless they're utterly stupid they will not pick this hill to die on.

(because if they do pick this hill, I'm pretty sure they WILL die on it)

Sometimes it good to have different voices in a political party. It stops yesmen and echo chambers and therefore make the party as a whole stronger.

I would rather have discussion and debate than not.

Sigh

Are you purposely being obtuse or do you not give a shit about women's bodily autonomy?

I'm currently suffering severe HG. I hold dear the fact that if I became too ill to cope cope, I would have the choice to abort. It's that thought that's got me through each and every day of my three pregnancies. That and a million other reasons are why women's bodily autonomy is so important. Abortion is a medical decision, nothing else.

I'd rather have a Women's Minister who prioritises women, not the contents of their womb @Pixiedust1234.

We had all the discussion and debate necessary about a woman’s right to abortion over 50 years ago. It’s been done and dusted for more than half a century. What next? Discussion and debate n capital punishment? Sunak is really making some shit appointments.

It doesn’t have any bodily autonomy. It’s basically a parasite, it can’t exist without its host.

@HeidiCr to give a more personal example other than the blinking obvious: I got pregnant now, the foetus wouldn’t survive. I’d rather have the choice of how it happens.

*if I

"Some of us" is fortunately a very small minority given that 90% of the UK support legal abortion.

I really hope you see that before I get deleted.

Read up on how women in countries who have abortion bans have to carry dead babies. The baby can show a false heartbeat, a couple of beats a minute, or even less because the placenta is still functioning. The baby is dead and decomposing to but because of heartbeat rules etc, the woman has to carry it. Likewise severe health issues that means the baby will only live a short time. As well as body autonomy etc, women's lives and MH are in danger from blanket rules. As well as their existing children.

Out of curiosity, how many unwanted children have you personally adopted?

I hold abortion dear, not that I have ever been in the situation to need or want one, but because I believe women are not simply incubators, and it is beyond cruel to make a woman continue with a pregnancy she doesn't want for any reason

How anyone can look at the dire state of children’s services and many children’s lives and still think abortion is a problem, that we don’t have enough babies and children with their needs chronically unmet already.