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Does Sunak hate women?? His new Minister for Women Appointment is 100% anti-abortion.

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Rainbunny · 30/10/2022 11:30

Just learned that Sunak has appointed Maria Caulfield as his Minister for Women! This is an MP who voted against legalizing abortion in Northern Ireland and wants the time-limit for abortion in the UK reduced. She has stood up in Parliament and lied, outright lied with a nonsense claim that fetuses born at 18 weeks have lived long and healthy lives - 100% untrue. She is against buffer zones outside clinics and she's a past officer of a pro-life, anti-abortion organisation.

WTF!! This is who Sunak thinks will look out for women's interests? 90% of the UK public support legal abortion, 1 in 3 women will need an abortion at some point.

There's a lot we don't actually know about Sunak and what sort of man he is but we're learning quickly...

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YellowTreeHouse · 30/10/2022 12:00

Excellent. This is exactly what we need. I like him more every day.

Middledazedted · 30/10/2022 12:00

As for having a minister who doesn’t believe in our bodily autonomy- horrific.

Ekateri · 30/10/2022 12:00

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I'm quoting this with the same hope

BigWillyStyleandPrincessKate · 30/10/2022 12:02

Ponoka7 · 30/10/2022 11:58

Read up on how women in countries who have abortion bans have to carry dead babies. The baby can show a false heartbeat, a couple of beats a minute, or even less because the placenta is still functioning. The baby is dead and decomposing to but because of heartbeat rules etc, the woman has to carry it. Likewise severe health issues that means the baby will only live a short time. As well as body autonomy etc, women's lives and MH are in danger from blanket rules. As well as their existing children.

Women dying of sepsis is just the price we pay, for eating apples, or something. I don't know. There's probably a really good reason for it.

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Ekateri · 30/10/2022 12:03

YellowTreeHouse · 30/10/2022 12:00

Excellent. This is exactly what we need. I like him more every day.

Have you adopted many unwanted children?

Ponoka7 · 30/10/2022 12:04

YellowTreeHouse · 30/10/2022 12:00

Excellent. This is exactly what we need. I like him more every day.

Yep, during a cost of living crisis, underfunding to dangerous levels of every service, especially maternity care and education, austerity which includes no benefits for more than two children, an affordable housing crisis, what we need is forced births.

vodkaredbullgirl · 30/10/2022 12:04

😞

TheyreOnlyNoodlesMichael · 30/10/2022 12:05

YellowTreeHouse · 30/10/2022 12:00

Excellent. This is exactly what we need. I like him more every day.

Does a bell go off at Forced Birther HQ to bring you lot out?

Wowzers12 · 30/10/2022 12:06

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Bloody hell 🙈😂

napody · 30/10/2022 12:06

WomenShouldWinWomensSports · 30/10/2022 11:42

As I just said on the other thread about this, I trust women to make the right choice and I hope she does too.
As long as she doesn't change anything, it largely doesn't matter what she thinks about it all. And the government have much bigger fish to fry, so unless they're utterly stupid they will not pick this hill to die on.

I don't think they'd get away with changing things now (or in the near future) either. But just this appointment is shifting the Overton window and legitimising these extreme, anti-bodily-autonomy views.

BigWillyStyleandPrincessKate · 30/10/2022 12:06

YellowTreeHouse · 30/10/2022 12:00

Excellent. This is exactly what we need. I like him more every day.

Children going hungry under Tory rule is fine. It's only choosing to not have children that's immoral.

VickyEadieofThigh · 30/10/2022 12:07

Thatsasmashingblouseyouvegoton · 30/10/2022 11:32

His insane appointments are all about keeping the hard right of the party appeased.

Correct. Brexit has brought us to this point - and that's because Cameron thought the referendum would appease the hard right.

napody · 30/10/2022 12:08

napody · 30/10/2022 12:06

I don't think they'd get away with changing things now (or in the near future) either. But just this appointment is shifting the Overton window and legitimising these extreme, anti-bodily-autonomy views.

I mean, its literally happening right now before our eyes. Never seen so many forced birthers pop up so quickly on MN. Decisions like this empower them.

Passthetena · 30/10/2022 12:09

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Just to make sure @HeidiCr sees it. No one should be forced into a life they don't want.

YellowTreeHouse · 30/10/2022 12:11

Ponoka7 · 30/10/2022 12:04

Yep, during a cost of living crisis, underfunding to dangerous levels of every service, especially maternity care and education, austerity which includes no benefits for more than two children, an affordable housing crisis, what we need is forced births.

If you don’t want to have a baby then you should be taking proper precautions or abstaining from sex. It’s not okay to be so careless with life.

Abortion should only be legal in cases of rape or medical need.

Walkden · 30/10/2022 12:11

"We had all the discussion and debate necessary about a woman’s right to abortion over 50 years ago. It’s been done and dusted for more than half a century"

Women in the US would probably disagree with you about that.....

BigWillyStyleandPrincessKate · 30/10/2022 12:12

I don't understand why the people who shout the loudest about abortion are never the ones shouting the loudest about healthcare, benefits, food poverty.

It's almost like it's literally about punishing women and nothing to do with 'saving babies'

YetAnotherSpartacus · 30/10/2022 12:12

I really hope you see that before I get deleted.

Me too.

HeidiCr · 30/10/2022 12:13

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DoubleShotEspresso · 30/10/2022 12:13

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You've never been the victim of rape then?

DoubleShotEspresso · 30/10/2022 12:13

TooBigForMyBoots · 30/10/2022 11:42

@HeidiCr, bodily autonomy should be held dear. It was hard fought and won.

THANK-YOU

TheyreOnlyNoodlesMichael · 30/10/2022 12:14

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Blossomtoes · 30/10/2022 12:15

Walkden · 30/10/2022 12:11

"We had all the discussion and debate necessary about a woman’s right to abortion over 50 years ago. It’s been done and dusted for more than half a century"

Women in the US would probably disagree with you about that.....

Of course they would but we’re not talking about the US, are we?

feelthebeatfromthetangerine · 30/10/2022 12:15

YellowTreeHouse · 30/10/2022 12:11

If you don’t want to have a baby then you should be taking proper precautions or abstaining from sex. It’s not okay to be so careless with life.

Abortion should only be legal in cases of rape or medical need.

If a woman has been raped, why must she admit it in order to get an abortion? A man has already taken something away from her, it should be her decision whether to tell anyone (including the police).

I'm not saying all women who want abortions have been raped, because that's not true. But if just one of them has been raped, I'd rather not insist on a reason because I don't want to add to her trauma.

Imagine going through with an unwanted pregnancy because you can't bring yourself to talk about the rape that caused it.

We have to trust women to make the decisions that are right for them, and to support them in doing so.