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To feel inconvenienced by DH wanting 'better quality' sex

646 replies

dhaex · 29/10/2022 11:19

NC here for obvious reasons, I have no one IRL I am comfortable asking this question.

DH recently has started to sometimes not get it up. He has started to say it's because I don't make an effort (admittedly I don't)

So I am asking if I'm your sex life you have standards? So for example he said he just wants a few basic things to make the sec better. He said he doesn't expect these every time but some of the times.

They are;

  • shaven pubic hair
  • a bit of makeup
  • hair not looking a mess
  • a wash beforehand

Are these things reasonable to expect of you before sex? To be honest I just cba to do these things in order to have sex but I also have to understand sex is based on attraction so I am being lazy to not want to do these things but equally we are TTC and to be frank it's wearing me out and I just cannot be bothered.

Please help do you except the above requirements to have sex?

Please don't come on saying what a twat my husband sounds I'm not here to roast him I'm genuinely wanting to know if people make an effort for sex and if so is the above ask fair

Thank you

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reachforthebloodymary · 29/10/2022 12:01

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Mindthegap725 · 29/10/2022 12:01

dhaex · 29/10/2022 11:41

I should also add to my last post that I wash twice daily, we have been TTC on and off now for a few years so it's really taking its toll.

I just don't know what to do but I have little enjoyment in sex anymore due to this and it doesn't help in terms of being inspired to make an effort.

It's dragging me down

Are you sure this is about washing and make up or is this more about your relationship?

Is it more about the TTC? If it's become a stress I mean? That's very understandable if so. Are you able to talk about how it makes you both feel?

Sexual desire is, in the main, not so much about how the other person looks or what they do or don't do, it's normally about how we feel inside. Whether we feel strong, empowered, attractive, on top of our game.

It could be then that your husband feels disappointed in himself? A bit low and run down. And he's transferring that feeling to you? Can you talk to him about it?

dhaex · 29/10/2022 12:02

Thir · 29/10/2022 11:57

Yes I make an effort for sex.

I know TTC can be very draining. But it's also only 5 days of the month and if you're tracking you know when your fertile time is coming up and there's generally 3 key times to have sex. So at the start of your fertile time can you spend an hour in the bathroom and just get a bit shaven and clean?

TTC is difficult for men too. I think you both have to be trying to make it as nice as possible over those days for each other.

I don't think he's being unreasonable.

Thank you. This is also part of the problem he wants regular sex OUtSIDE the window which means during the window it's exhausting,

It's making me just want to do it those three key days and sod it off most of the the remainder of the time but he doesn't understand this logic he wants it consistently throughout the month

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girlfriend44 · 29/10/2022 12:02

Isn't sex meant to be spontaneous?
How can.it be if you have a list of things?
What happens when the lost gets longer?

reachforthebloodymary · 29/10/2022 12:02

Sorry wrong thread I have reported

FabFitFifties · 29/10/2022 12:03

I suspect it is the TTC issue. It can get a bit much. I for one went right off sex, when I felt I had to do it on demand/to the calendar. I feel a fraud, saying it took 5 years to conceive, because I know I wasn't really "trying" at the time that counts. My DP had no such issues, but I believe it is very common in men TTC and obviously women too. As a means to an end I would meet these demands, apart from shaving.

millymog11 · 29/10/2022 12:03

Is there a big age gap between you / is he much older than you?

dhaex · 29/10/2022 12:03

Fireflygal · 29/10/2022 12:00

@dhaex, Number of issues here. Ttc is stressful especially if it's been a number of years. It can cause partners to "turn on" each other rather than pull together.

How long have you been together? Have you started investigations?

I think your initial post caused people to jump on the washing thing but most people who have spontaneous sex don't wash beforehand or do hair & makeup. Many women chose not to shave and that's your choice. It isn't a small thing to shave pubic hair so don't believe that!

I think you need to determine what's going on for him...perhaps ttc is resulting in issues for him and he is seeking to blame you rather than recognise he is stressed but the process.

Thank you, been together over ten years and yes have had things looked into

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Chickenvoicesinmyhead · 29/10/2022 12:03

Chickenvoicesinmyhead · 29/10/2022 12:00

I wondered this.

Apologies, just seen your update.

Know wonder you can't be bothered if you have to have a checklist. Not exactly romantic is it? I would hold off on TTC until you've ironed out some communication issues.

BellePeppa · 29/10/2022 12:04

Dottysmum18 · 29/10/2022 11:23

I would counter offer with
Trimmed hair if ur not into shaven
Brushed hair
Clean face
And for goodness sake wash your self

But if you’ve already washed that day why do you need to before sex? What about all that spontaneous sex people have, do they suddenly stop proceedings so they can go have another shower? Assuming a person is not rank washing beforehand seems rather clinical. Again, assuming not rank, I rather like the smell of (unrank) human skin on skin. 🤷‍♀️

Stravaig · 29/10/2022 12:04

To me it sounds like the relationship has run its course. You can't be arsed making an effort, he's not that attracted to you.

What's going on in the rest of your lives together? I'd pause and review everything, perhaps with the support of a counsellor.

Definitely stop trying to conceive until you've worked this out.

dhaex · 29/10/2022 12:04

Can I also ask another question, how many times a week should be normal to have sex outside of the three key times around ovulation when TTC?

I think this is creating burnout for me

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2bazookas · 29/10/2022 12:05

Tell him he needs to grow a better quality dick.

OrlaCarmichael · 29/10/2022 12:05

bonzaitree · 29/10/2022 11:48

Anyone else feel like he is blaming her for his erectile distinction?

Yes me.

Could be porn use and nothing to do with things OP could do to increase the quality of his experience?

Mindthegap725 · 29/10/2022 12:05

Sorry. X posts before.

Could you take some time out for some counselling together? With someone who is familiar with fertility issues?

Dalekjastninerels · 29/10/2022 12:05

For me

Shaven? Yes but trimmed is also fine for me. Prefer him trimmed at least too.
Makeup? Nope seems weird to put it on for sex
Hair? Surely hair will get messed up if you don't just lie there?
Wash? Absolutely I do this and I would expect the same in return

Clevererthanyou · 29/10/2022 12:06

@dhaex A normal amount of sex should be how often you actually want to have sex. If it feels like a chore, something has to change for you, not him.

dhaex · 29/10/2022 12:06

2bazookas · 29/10/2022 12:05

Tell him he needs to grow a better quality dick.

😂

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Hugasauras · 29/10/2022 12:07

RoomOfRequirement · 29/10/2022 11:39

I have never in my life washed specifically before sex. Am I in an alternate reality? Does everyone who said it's gross not to never have spontaneous sex? Do you have to run to the bathroom with a flannel when you get in the mood?!

If you haven't been showering regularly, then sure - but that's a whole other set of problems. For a regular woman who has good personal hygiene? You ACTUALLY go wash before sex? I don't believe it.

I don't get it either. Do you stop mid foreplay and run to the bathroom? Confused Or is sex only at scheduled times and you prepare.

I wash daily anyway but if we started getting down to it at midday (fat chance these days!) I wouldn't be running off to wash my vag or asking him to go dunk his penis. Maybe we are gross Grin but sex is gross anyway when you think about it.

dhaex · 29/10/2022 12:07

Counselling he would never consider he's told me before if a relationship needs counselling in his mind it's already over.

No relationship would need it which I find ridiculous but I can't drag him there

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blebbleb · 29/10/2022 12:08

dhaex · 29/10/2022 12:04

Can I also ask another question, how many times a week should be normal to have sex outside of the three key times around ovulation when TTC?

I think this is creating burnout for me

We rarely did it outside that week but we're usually shattered!

Chickenvoicesinmyhead · 29/10/2022 12:09

dhaex · 29/10/2022 12:07

Counselling he would never consider he's told me before if a relationship needs counselling in his mind it's already over.

No relationship would need it which I find ridiculous but I can't drag him there

Sorry but there are bigger issues at play here @dhaex

butterfliedtwo · 29/10/2022 12:10

Everything else aside, this relationship doesn't sound great. I'd think again about the baby and tying yourself to him that way.

Crackof · 29/10/2022 12:10

dhaex · 29/10/2022 11:56

Yes he does

There you go. It's a known passion killer. In fact, ethics boards won't even let academic researchers study the effects of porn any more because it is SO AWFUL.
Ban it. Or ban him.

Bruciebabyoh · 29/10/2022 12:10

He’s projecting.