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How to cope with my parent’s political views?

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Blacktigerstripes · 23/10/2022 21:33

I’m staying with my parents at the moment, in their early sixties.
How do you cope with differing political and cultural views?

I’m getting so angry the more conversations we have.

My DM doesn’t agree with gay marriage…she also has a totally differing political viewpoint to me and my DP.
I’m finding myself getting more and more angry.

Has anyone else had this issue?

OP posts:
Miajk · 24/10/2022 08:04

jerkchicken · 24/10/2022 01:48

Yes, I would say “live and let live” as long as that racist / misogynistic / homophobic person is not breaking the law. people are allowed to have opinions in a free society, even if you or I may not agree with them. Policing people’s thoughts is a step too far for me personally.

you are using highly emotive and sanctimonious language. Nowhere did I say people need to keep in touch with those with “vile opinions”. In fact I feel quite the opposite - if I feel so strongly about someone’s views, I would steer clear of the topic entirely or avoid them. On the contrary, OP is the one STAYING WITH these awful people with vile opinions, and getting angry at them in their own home about their own views.

if her parents’ views are so unacceptable to her, why not leave / reduce contact?

But then you agree that it's complex when it's your own family. Especially since many posters here think it's fine and it's best not to talk about it.

I'm using whatever language I want to as apparently we should all just disregard other people and say/think whatever we want.

If you genuinely think racist things no one can police you but if you admit to it people are allowed to want to talk about it and call you a cunt. This is pretty simple surely.

jerkchicken · 24/10/2022 08:24

Miajk · 24/10/2022 08:04

But then you agree that it's complex when it's your own family. Especially since many posters here think it's fine and it's best not to talk about it.

I'm using whatever language I want to as apparently we should all just disregard other people and say/think whatever we want.

If you genuinely think racist things no one can police you but if you admit to it people are allowed to want to talk about it and call you a cunt. This is pretty simple surely.

We are going around in circles here.

Of course people are allowed to disagree with each other. But OP is getting very angry at the fact that her parents have a “totally differing political viewpoint” to her and her partner, suggesting that she thinks they are wrong and should think the way she does. While OP may not agree with their views, she does not get to dictate how her parents should think instead.

to repeat yet again - all people are perfectly entitled to their views as long as they are not breaking the law.

as Voltaire said - “I may not agree with what you say, but I will defend to the death your right to say it.”

saraclara · 24/10/2022 09:23

This thread is bizarre and has little to do with the OP.

Of course people are at liberty to hold whatever views they want. But equally we are all at liberty to discuss and challenge those views. It's also equally reasonable to find it hard that one's own parents have views that disrespect others, or which seem uncaring.

I don't believe for a minute that all the posters who've gone down the 'it's unreasonable not to respect their free speech' line simply ignore all those with extremist views, or would let their own family members go unchallenged if they express views which are considered unacceptable in today's world.

ExpectMore · 24/10/2022 18:52

Blacktigerstripes · 23/10/2022 21:33

I’m staying with my parents at the moment, in their early sixties.
How do you cope with differing political and cultural views?

I’m getting so angry the more conversations we have.

My DM doesn’t agree with gay marriage…she also has a totally differing political viewpoint to me and my DP.
I’m finding myself getting more and more angry.

Has anyone else had this issue?

It's called being tolerant. It's one of the values of British Culture and is about accepting we live in a society with others who have different views. Whilst that can at times be frustrating, it's what makes us stronger overall

BitOutOfPractice · 24/10/2022 19:07

tolerance if other people’s view points is perfectly valid. And necessary to a functioning society.

Where I draw the line is tolerating racism, homophobia and misogyny. I will not tolerate those. They are not valid opinions to hold. Racism, for example, is not a “point of view” that I have to tolerate thanks.

samyeagar · 24/10/2022 19:11

VeniVidiWeeWee · 23/10/2022 23:00

Yes. I do. I disagree vehemently with that view but they are alĺowed to hold it.

Read 1984 and think about the thought police.

And if history is any indication, the self righteous views of today will become the antiquated views of tomorrow.

The youngsters of today and all their enlightenment will go through the same thing when they get old.

isadoradancing123 · 24/10/2022 20:15

Why are your views automatically right and theirs wrong, they are probably angry at your views, why do you arrogantly assume that they are wrong

BlueWalnut · 24/10/2022 20:23

BitOutOfPractice · 24/10/2022 19:07

tolerance if other people’s view points is perfectly valid. And necessary to a functioning society.

Where I draw the line is tolerating racism, homophobia and misogyny. I will not tolerate those. They are not valid opinions to hold. Racism, for example, is not a “point of view” that I have to tolerate thanks.

Yes this…

OoooohMatron · 24/10/2022 20:30

My parents are the same. My mum especially and is getting worse. Honestly I just avoid any politics talk and change the subject if it does come up.

MangyInseam · 24/10/2022 20:33

GCAcademic · 24/10/2022 07:38

Well, the OP hasn’t been back.

I guess they weren’t prepared to listen to posters who disagreed with them. Shocker.

That's about it.

MangyInseam · 24/10/2022 20:41

BitOutOfPractice · 24/10/2022 19:07

tolerance if other people’s view points is perfectly valid. And necessary to a functioning society.

Where I draw the line is tolerating racism, homophobia and misogyny. I will not tolerate those. They are not valid opinions to hold. Racism, for example, is not a “point of view” that I have to tolerate thanks.

But what counts as racism?

The popular "anti-racism" of Robin DiAngelo is described by people like John McWhorter as being "condescendingly dehumaniszing."

So which of them are you not going to tolerate?

PinkFrogss · 24/10/2022 20:45

MangyInseam · 24/10/2022 20:41

But what counts as racism?

The popular "anti-racism" of Robin DiAngelo is described by people like John McWhorter as being "condescendingly dehumaniszing."

So which of them are you not going to tolerate?

What has some random argument between 2 people got to do with it?

There are some things that are out and out blatantly racist, and some things that are more subtle that some people may not notice or agree on. To a certain extent different people will have different interpretations of what constitutes racist.

That doesn’t mean someone has to tolerate racism just because you want to go round in circles about what it actually is

BitOutOfPractice · 24/10/2022 21:06

@MangyInseam there you go. You said it. That is exactly like the mealy mouthed semantics I will not tolerate.

you know exactly what I mean. I’ve told you where my line of tolerance stops. You can dance around it all you like.

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