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To think DH comment about Liz Truss could be final straw?

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IveGottaGetOutOfThisPlace · 20/10/2022 20:29

DH can be a bit of an idiot. Getting more right wing in his old age. Went through a stage of reading a load of nonsense online. Jordan Peterson etc.

News was on. And he just turned to me and said

"I've been reading some alternative theory behind all this. And I think it may well be the globalists who have forced Truss out"

When I asked who these globalists were, he just said

"The people in charge. Jeremy Hunt. Banks"

When I started to question it, I could feel it was gonna get into an argument v quickly so I just left to do the laundry

Things have been bad for a while. How batshit barmy is this comment? To me it feels totally crazy. I don't know if I can be with someone who feels so distant in the way he thinks the world works.

What do others think? Am I being ott to think this is some seriously worrying shit coming out his mouth?

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beastlyslumber · 24/10/2022 09:14

I don't know how anyone can watch an interview like that and think that JP is an evil monster who is tearing society apart! He's thoughtful and conscientious about his marriage and clearly has a lot of love and respect for his wife. Would you not like your DH to emulate some of this behaviour, OP?

LaGioconda · 24/10/2022 09:15

Mummyoflittledragon · 20/10/2022 21:29

I’ve been listening to the odd bit of GB News on the radio over the past couple of weeks but don’t watch it on TV. I am interested in understanding the more right wing viewpoint and hearing what they think of the situation. I’m the only one in my birth family to have voted remain btw so I’m not looking to be influenced by what I hear. It’s to decrease my irritation at the crap I am subjected to and hone my arguments if anything.

I was fairly recently staying in a holiday cottage where for some reason the TV defaulted to GB news whenever you put it on and the procedure for finding terrestrial stations was slightly time-consuming. So I kept hearing bits of GB news and interviews, and I have to say it didn't decrease my irritation one iota to keep hearing these idiots discussing stuff which they plainly had never bothered to inform themselves about; because it's just an echo chamber they simply seem to sit around agreeing with each other. At one point DH was startled to hear me shouting "It's because you're on GB News and thick as a brick" when I caught someone saying he just didn't understand what was the problem in deporting refugees to Rwanda.

LaGioconda · 24/10/2022 09:24

Meili04 · 20/10/2022 23:41

I'm generally anti conspiracy theory Didn't Lloyds admit they were going to buy up loads of property and rent it out ? Hike up the interest rates then hoover up the repossessions.

Seems highly unlikely. Mortgage lenders don't make money out of repossessing property as all they can take out of sale proceeds is what they are owed and not a penny more. It's actually more in their interests to keep mortgages going as they make their money out of interest on loans.

SaintVitasShagulaitas · 24/10/2022 09:28

Dementia?

JaNaJanice · 24/10/2022 09:34

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IveGottaGetOutOfThisPlace · 24/10/2022 10:11

Are you Jordon's PR person? @JaNaJanice

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SleeplessInEngland · 24/10/2022 10:26

PBSam · 21/10/2022 07:31

Jordan Peterson is neither a conspiracy theorist or right wing for that matter.

Correct. He's an intellectual lightweight going through a series of severe mental health crises. He deserves pity.

SleeplessInEngland · 24/10/2022 10:29

BeethovenNinth · 24/10/2022 07:31

Many people take a similar stance to your DH. That Liz Truss as forced out. Even Laura Kuennsberg asked if ‘markets’ are now controlling government.

you sound a bit naive OP.

would you honestly leave your DH for questioning the mainstream?

Markets matter. A PM who shocks them enough into creating a situation where the bank of england has to intervene is a liability to normal people.

The DH is a moron and so is everyone who believe such conspiracy theory nonsense.

Tomselleckhaskindeyes · 24/10/2022 10:35

ok here i go.... i also watch GB news at times. i like to get my news from different sources so go from bbc, GB news, times radio, The guardian. GB news have great debates and discussions and some really good commentators.

Also Jordon Peterson is very interesting. I can listen to him for hours. i don't agree on everything but he is really across his subject as a clinical psychologist.

Also there isn't anything wrong with being right wing. As a country we tend to be conservative. I am saying this as somebody who is a life long labour supporter. Maybe you all need to open your minds a bit more and be challenged by different ideas.

JaNaJanice · 24/10/2022 11:06

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beastlyslumber · 24/10/2022 11:48

SleeplessInEngland · 24/10/2022 10:26

Correct. He's an intellectual lightweight going through a series of severe mental health crises. He deserves pity.

Yes, I'm sure that you are not at all deluded to feel so superior to a man who has made a career and a fortune from helping others to change their lives for the better.

SleeplessInEngland · 24/10/2022 11:52

beastlyslumber · 24/10/2022 11:48

Yes, I'm sure that you are not at all deluded to feel so superior to a man who has made a career and a fortune from helping others to change their lives for the better.

Such cynicism. I can't even feel sorry for a guy having a mental health issues without being accused of acting superior. What's happened to the world? 😭

JaNaJanice · 24/10/2022 12:05

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IveGottaGetOutOfThisPlace · 24/10/2022 12:13

@JaNaJanice "Slightly pedestrian but easily consumable" - no judgement there AT ALL.

Why would I need a lesson in self-esteem? I find my DH's opinions ill-informed and mean-spirited. I am not middle aged and have my whole life in front of me and don't fancy spending the next 50 years listening to those opinions delivered in monologues, especially given he becomes defensive and difficult when questioned. And just like you, and indeed plenty of women, I would much rather be with no one than the wrong one. That is a fairly common stance amongst people, including middle-aged women.

My self-esteem is strong enough so that I don't need to tolerate decades of listening to nonsense just to avoid being alone.

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MissHavishamsMouldyOldCake · 24/10/2022 12:14

I think JP is a pseudo intellectual who uses 100 words where 5 will do.

Is he still a drug addict? I remember reading an article about some of his fans being concerned that his daughter was trying to kill him.

beastlyslumber · 24/10/2022 12:17

Good luck finding someone to walk in ideological lockstep with you for the rest of your life after you cancel your husband for wrongthink. Let's hope that you never change your opinions about anything, learn anything new, or open your mind to other ideas, or I guess that'll be another marriage down the drain.

MissHavishamsMouldyOldCake · 24/10/2022 12:18

OP, it seems your relationship may have run its course and that's fine. I'd be pretty impatient watching my partner heading down the conspiracy theory path jabbering all the clichéd boxes about globalists, Peterson, Greta Thunberg (the obsession some middle aged men have with that young woman). Most likely it's going to get worse.

SleeplessInEngland · 24/10/2022 12:20

beastlyslumber · 24/10/2022 12:17

Good luck finding someone to walk in ideological lockstep with you for the rest of your life after you cancel your husband for wrongthink. Let's hope that you never change your opinions about anything, learn anything new, or open your mind to other ideas, or I guess that'll be another marriage down the drain.

Calm down Jordan, she's just not that into you. You've still got all your fans and money, let that be enough.

JaNaJanice · 24/10/2022 12:20

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SleeplessInEngland · 24/10/2022 12:20

Calm down Jordan, she's just not that into you. You've still got all your fans and money, let that be enough.

Gosh, how witty.

JaNaJanice · 24/10/2022 12:27

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IveGottaGetOutOfThisPlace · 24/10/2022 12:27

@beastlyslumber Of course I don't need someone to be the same as me ideologically. But there are surely some things where you draw the line?

My step-dad used to say that women deserved what was coming to them if they went out in short skirts and got really pissed for example. Or the bloke who called LBC at the weekend and said Rishi couldn't be PM because he 'wasn't really British'

Surely you wouldn't want to be with someone if they started saying certain things you found repugnant?

There must be viewpoints that we find so far away from how we think, so problematic - that is enough to put you off the person. I'm not even saying I'm going to leave, but surely it feels pretty unworkable to be so far away in world views especially when the other person doesn't want to discuss it. It's DH who doesn't want to talk about it with me, he just wants to watch youtube videos and rant about how much he hates Greta T, or young people, or that climate change concerns are made up, or that globalists are taking over the world etc etc.

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SleeplessInEngland · 24/10/2022 12:28

Gosh, you Peterson fans gets so angry. Starting to see what the OP was talking about.