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To think DH comment about Liz Truss could be final straw?

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IveGottaGetOutOfThisPlace · 20/10/2022 20:29

DH can be a bit of an idiot. Getting more right wing in his old age. Went through a stage of reading a load of nonsense online. Jordan Peterson etc.

News was on. And he just turned to me and said

"I've been reading some alternative theory behind all this. And I think it may well be the globalists who have forced Truss out"

When I asked who these globalists were, he just said

"The people in charge. Jeremy Hunt. Banks"

When I started to question it, I could feel it was gonna get into an argument v quickly so I just left to do the laundry

Things have been bad for a while. How batshit barmy is this comment? To me it feels totally crazy. I don't know if I can be with someone who feels so distant in the way he thinks the world works.

What do others think? Am I being ott to think this is some seriously worrying shit coming out his mouth?

OP posts:
SunneRising · 20/10/2022 22:43

Did we not just see the money-men, the hedge funders, those with huge property interests, the bond dealers, the people who really control what's going on - did we not just see them flex their muscles?

brrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrr · 20/10/2022 22:46

I’m a globalist. And so is my wife.

SunneRising · 20/10/2022 22:46

How to Lie with Statistics - great little book. My dad made me read it so that I'd stop believing everything I was told and stop saying ridiculous things like 99 out of 100😂 people who say X are racist. (When really you have no fucking idea!!)

Bard6817 · 20/10/2022 22:47

Things i’ve learnt as i grew up.

We have very little independant media.
Trust no politician
Trust no political party.

Trust none of the bodies that are supposed to be independant. The ones that are, are few and far between.

Trust none of the quangos that are there for our protection.
Trust none of the huge international organisations that are supposed to be there for our welfare.
Dont trust big business to do anything other than look after it’s trustees, board, executive, shareholders (a shared usually) and sometimes it’s staff.
Don’t trust unions.

See a pattern?

Every single one of the above has an agenda.
Sometimes for the good of common people, sometimes, many people, sometimes a few people.

I don’t think there’s a flat earth, im not an anti vaxxer, yes i voted for brexit.

Why do i say all of the above…

Because i’ve worked within a good number of them, or had to deal with them at some point and seen many people screwed over by them, and the screwed have been fed a narrative that they have been helped.

I keep a special place for the SNP - Independance at any cost or any lie. As a Scot, i’m allowed to detest them.

I’ve rarely met a politician that was not controlled by their officials, nor one that was not indebted to someone or something along the way, if already rich, then just power hungry. (Sunak)

The unions i’ve dealt with, have both been fraudulently corrupt at low levels, or power mad at the top, especially Unite, with nameless execs who can quite simply pickup a phone, and get you into Portcullis House with barely a sentance, and how they deal with their internal illegal activities and data protections, is not how they critique others.

The businessmen i’ve met were focussed on profit, rarely on society, and many were sharks who saw their role as staying one step ahead of the regulations. To be fair i’ve had some great bosses, but on balance, the leaders who were successfull were more cut throat than those who weren’t.

Basically, a working career has left me with a state of mind, that pretty much everyone is just trying to get one over on everyone else, whatever their role, position or poison was. The only good people i met in my career, were the bulk of employees, with families, doing their best.

So have the globalists taken over or ousted Truss et al. No idea. What i do know is that a BOE Deputy stated that this mess was only 25% the fault of Truss and her team. The other 75% was the global economy. I saw that right away, because bond yields spiked everywhere in the world over those early days, and it was only slightly worse here and the Dollar was rising worldwide. The pound has been in decline since 2008. I do know the IMF is run by an ex EU big wig and they don’t want a large growth competitor on their doorstep demonstrating that Brexit was a good thing.I do think it’s hypocritical of Biden to wade in and refer to trickle down economics, when 50% of the population of USA doesnt pay any income tax whatsoever, due to that methodology. Oh by the way Economics isn’t a science, it’s just as much philosophy and politics. Was there market manipulation, probably, but that won’t be aired publicly. As for LDI, as a pension fund trustee, i’ve always steered clear of leverage for making a pension fund keep its head above water, but as always, the tax payer bailed out the banks and the pension funds who just couldn’t resist bumper profits and extra bonuses for their executive members and less employer contributions. We will be living with mess for a decade.

Truss may have have good ideas, i honestly don’t know, i did think when they announced their mini budget, they are either brilliant or stupid, and potentially both, with poor timing. I’m glad she’s gone, hope Boris doesn’t come back, I have a letter from Sunak to me personally, which was rude, arrogant and just like his bio, out of touch, so i can’t contemplate him getting in. A general election? And get labour in? Might as well hand over the asylum to the lunatics.

The globalists haven’t taken over.

Greed and self interest has. Know who is making money right now, the banks. Again.

LimpBiskit · 20/10/2022 22:49

HyggeandTea · 20/10/2022 21:04

Well a few of the broadsheets have suggested there is some infighting and backstabbing, and the last time I looked, it was okay to be right wing.
Jordan Peterson is a clinical psychologist, and I have enjoyed studying his research. I don't always agree with him, but the articles I've read are peer reviewed.

I think you both need to calm down a bit and get some fresh air.

Jordan Peterson gets a bad press. I read a couple of his books to see what all the furore was about and his arguments are underpinned with evidence and generally make coherent sense, unlike many of the people who oppose him.

ResisterRex · 20/10/2022 22:49

Well the idea that thinktanks have a lot of influence on our political and economic structures and decisions, isn't something to be totally dismissed out of hand. Monbiot's written a fair bit on that, and who funds them. This is from 2017:

www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2017/may/17/dark-money-democracy-billionaires-funding

And 2018:

www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2018/jul/18/dark-money-democracy-political-crisis-institute-economic-affairs

EmmaH2022 · 20/10/2022 22:50

OP in the end, if things were going well, and this was a difference of opinion, it wouldn't matter.

but clearly there is a lot of other problematic stuff going on.

Personally I struggle with people who can't just say "I don't know" - which seems to be a lot of people now.

I've also lost someone to alien conspiracies. I know some people find it fun but it was relentless and I couldn't cope.

have you said to him you see it as a deal breaker? Could it be that his head is in a bad place but he'll calm down if he sees how serious the problems are in the relationship?

Sunflower987 · 20/10/2022 22:52

TheLassWiADelicateAir · 20/10/2022 22:19

Jordan Peterson is not a right wing conspiracy nut job.

I also don't think Jordan Peterson is a right wing nut job.

I think he has some very balanced arguments from what I have seen of him.

CharlieBoo · 20/10/2022 22:53

I’m just hopping on mainly because I have a teenage son who goes on about a lot of this.. blackrock, being controlled by the government, literally has a conspiracy theory for everything. It’s completely infuriating! I know where it’s coming from.. a friend’s husband takes him to football games with their son, and he is obsessed with it all.

Interesting that one poster has described it as being frustrated with your own life and trying to find blame etc..

SunneRising · 20/10/2022 22:53

Bard6817 - interesting post written from a point of view of experience.

And basically OP - if you think your DH has turned into an arse and you can't be bothered any more you don't need us to vindicate you. Just LTB.

StrychnineInTheSandwiches · 20/10/2022 22:54

SunneRising · 20/10/2022 22:46

How to Lie with Statistics - great little book. My dad made me read it so that I'd stop believing everything I was told and stop saying ridiculous things like 99 out of 100😂 people who say X are racist. (When really you have no fucking idea!!)

so you're seriously claiming that 'globalist' hasn't become a dog whistle for 'jew'?

did your darling daddy not teach you to tell the truth?

LadyWithLapdog · 20/10/2022 22:56

Sounds like you’ve become tragically incompatible. I would lose respect for a muttering saddo as well.

StarfishBrain · 20/10/2022 23:06

Sounds like he is either intellectually challenged or brainwashed. Neither is good. I could not be in a relationship with anybody with whom I couldn't have a rational conversation.

StarfishBrain · 20/10/2022 23:09

comes from the idea that Jews were 'rootless cosmpolitans' who weren't necessarily loyal to the country of their birth. Henry Ford wall full of this shit in the 1920s.

Indeed. And then later "citizens of nowhere", which is why the rhetoric from the Conservative Party around Brexit was so disturbing.

StarfishBrain · 20/10/2022 23:09

wb3 · 20/10/2022 21:01

Count yourself lucky.

My DH fancies her Liz Truss.

Does he have working ears and eyes? 😬😧

Dipsy12 · 20/10/2022 23:10

IveGottaGetOutOfThisPlace · 20/10/2022 20:46

@THisbackwithavengeance No, I said it was the final straw. And would I consider leaving my DH because he holds a world view that I think is paranoid and fuelled by right wing conspiracy nut jobs. Yes. Yes I would. I'm not sure I can stay married to someone I don't respect.

I was just interested as how others respond to this comment and any advice.

Politics affects us all.

I agree with you 100%. He is batagit I'm afraid and I'd struggle to live with someone like that too. Sorry 😞

ddl1 · 20/10/2022 23:12

TheLassWiADelicateAir · 20/10/2022 22:19

Jordan Peterson is not a right wing conspiracy nut job.

Maybe not; but he is supported by right wing conspiracy nut jobs.

StarfishBrain · 20/10/2022 23:13

Thing is he backs down or dilutes what he's saying somehow. So he was all like "the globalists blah blah" but then he just says he means people who are invested in countries working together internationally

Only the braindead cannot understand why countries working together internationally is a good thing.

Honestly OP, the more you post the more I'm convinced this will get worse and you need to end the relationship. I'd end one for a lot less!

paintitallover · 20/10/2022 23:14

Oh dear. He's lost to that world. Hard to get past.

mumofninetofive · 20/10/2022 23:15

I personally think your Husband should leave you OP. Any one who is that bat shit crazy to listen to some on the right garbage posted on MN by most of the fenatics on here he should run a mile. 😂

StarfishBrain · 20/10/2022 23:22

I also don't think Jordan Peterson is a right wing nut job.

I think he has some very balanced arguments from what I have seen of him.

You win the satirical comment of the evening trophy. 🏆

StarfishBrain · 20/10/2022 23:23

mumofninetofive · 20/10/2022 23:15

I personally think your Husband should leave you OP. Any one who is that bat shit crazy to listen to some on the right garbage posted on MN by most of the fenatics on here he should run a mile. 😂

What is a fenatic?

Nancydrawn · 20/10/2022 23:25

StarfishBrain · 20/10/2022 23:23

What is a fenatic?

Those who love Wisbech.

sst1234 · 20/10/2022 23:26

Do people here really believe that there is no politics involved in politics. Why does it shock you so much that interest groups and lobby groups may want a certain policy agenda. And that they may lobby to sway policy or who is in power. It’s not exactly a secret.

A globalist, by the way, is anyone that believes in open borders, high taxation and big state. Again, not exactly some secret society like the illuminati. This agenda is openly practiced by centrists.

If you think globalists don’t exist, you’re just as batshit as the conspiracy theorists.

FatOaf · 20/10/2022 23:28

Herr Ludwig: "It is an established fact, Herr Roberts, that there exists a well-organized
international conspiracy of Jewish bankers and Communists."

Brian Roberts: "lt's also an established fact that there exists another well-organized group, of which you're obviously a member. The lnternational Conspiracy of Horses' Arses."

[Cabaret]