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To not want DD’s boyfriend’s child in my house

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crostina1 · 19/10/2022 14:27

This happened yesterday and DD doesn’t get why I am annoyed. My 17 year old DD has a new boyfriend of 22 (will call him J) who she met at work. They got together 2 months ago, and it has moved very fast. He only works 15 hours a week and doesn’t do more because of his ‘mental health’. He had a tough upbringing (DD won’t give the details) and isn’t in contact with any of his family. He has a just turned 3 year old son with an ex who he sees once evey few months. He lives in his friend’s family’s spare room but is outstaying his welcome and needs to be out by Christmas. He is making no plans for this whatsoever, I know the place they work would bite his hand off if he asked them for full-time hours, they are very understaffed and he could then he could a bedsit or rent a bedroom. But he will not consider this.

I caught on to what he was doing straight away. He came to stay over one night and stayed for 5, it was obvious he was trying to move in for free accommodation. I put my foot down and said he can only stay 1 night at a time, and no more than 1 night a week as this is our family home and we have DD’s autistic brother to think about, who is unsettled having a stranger in the home. J makes no effort with us at all. DH cooks every night and J never eats it when offered, he gets a takeaway every night, sometimes in the early hours, waking us up. I haven’t ever actually had a conversation with J, he acknowledges me with a nod when he sees me in the house and that’s it. He knows I don’t like him, he is taking advantage of my daughter. He hasn’t once taken my DD out on a date.

They were both off work yesterday. I was aware that he had been allowed a visit with his child, and that DD would be going. DD was very excited to meet his child. I didn’t agree with it, but saying anything would have been futile. I was told they were getting the train to pick him up (child lives in the next town over) going for lunch and to the park and then taking him back to his mum. I finished work early and came home at 3 and opened the door to find the child playing in my hallway, with DD sat in the living room with the door open watching him. J had gone to the shop.

DD hasn’t ever really been around young children, she would haven’t a clue what to do if he’d have had a tantrum and the child was playing next to our heater which was on full blast. I was not at all comfortable with this and read DD the riot act about how this is the first time she has met this child and that it was incredibly inappropriate for J to leave her with him. J was gone for a further half an hour. DD said they went to the park and it was closed off (don’t believe) so J thought it made sense to come here. She said J’s ex (who, I’m told was completely under the impression they WERE at the park/going for lunch and not at mine) is considering letting him have weekly contact and J wants to be able to bring him here as he can’t take him to his mate’s house. I told her in no uncertain terms, no. My house is not a contact centre. DD naively said she thought I’d like it and it’d be like having a grandchild for me.

I had her ring J, find out which shop he was in and then sent her off with the child (who had a pram, thank god as I don’t have a bloody car seat to ferry him about) to meet him so they could take him home.

DD and J don’t get what my problem is. I barely know J. What if something had happened to the child in my house under my DD’s care? In my opinion, taking the child to his new girlfriend’s house when the mother is under the impression they are at the park constitutes a form of low-level abduction, and I wanted no part in the deception.

OP posts:
Fe345fleur · 19/10/2022 16:52

Agree with this. Totally understand you like to know where she is at night. But at the moment he is effectively living with you one night a week. Then when he's homeless from his mates house he'll be putting your address down as his for his bank, benefits etc...

If you're worried about her being out with him overnight, let her know that she can phone any time for a lift home, no judgement.

Appreciate it's tricky as she really needs to find out for herself what a knob he is. But ideally without getting too hurt in the process.

Dacadactyl · 19/10/2022 16:52

I've not RTFT but what the he'll does your daughter think she is playing at?

And why on earth does she think that all she deserves is this div?!

Inkyblue123 · 19/10/2022 16:53

100% cocklodger. I’m afraid all you can do is have a chat with your daughter - in the car? No escape , no eye contact ! and try to keep it civil. Tell her you love her but he is not welcome.

Backstreets · 19/10/2022 16:53

J reminds me of a distant relatives husband. I think he has six children by four women by now. Can’t remember if he’s turned thirty yet.

I really hope your daughter isn’t saddled with that goon for life.

Fe345fleur · 19/10/2022 16:53

Oops, my post didn't quote @Zwicky, the PP I was agreeing with 🙂

beastlyslumber · 19/10/2022 16:53

What a horrible situation, OP. Could you sit down with her and talk about what a relationship is/should be - e.g. going on dates, doing things together. I get from your posts that you have talked about this a bit. It might be worth really spelling it out, and letting her know that he's not good enough. Of course, he will have been lovebombing her like mad, and she's so young, the risk is you drive her towards him. I would be texting her every morning reminding her to take her pill! Hopefully he fucks up and she comes to her senses. It's so hard though. You see grown adult women on here all the time in these relationships, so how much harder it is for someone so young to see what's being done to her.

cutthelawn · 19/10/2022 16:53

Just because he has MH problems, it doesn’t mean he is owed free accommodation. He is an adult man

agreed the mh thing is thrown about as an excuse for everything these days.

CheeseNOnionSquares · 19/10/2022 16:54

I’ve name changed for this as I didn’t want it linked to my normal username. We found ourselves in a similar situation when our DD was 17, there was no way I was tolerating her 23 year old waste of space boyfriend in my home. I tried speaking to her, reasoning with her, supporting her but nope he’d got his grips into her. It didn’t matter what I said or done the dickhead boyfriend was always right. I can wholeheartedly say those were the toughest 6 years of my life. At times she would speak to me after she moved out at 17, then times she refused to tell me where she was living and cut all contact when I refused to lend her money which I knew was for his alcohol or drugs. I was not going to bend and allow him to move into our home which was always the bargaining tool with my DD. “Let him move in mum and I’ll come home.”

She was 22 when she finally realised he was an abusive, manipulative bastard and eventually came home. There is no way I would tolerate someone like him in my home OP, I won’t go into what I was put through in those 6 years by both of them, all I kept telling myself was to always be there for her as she was in a very abusive relationship. People can say support your DD but believe me, this doesn’t always work - I literally tried everything. I’m not saying this is going to happen to you but don’t underestimate how manipulative this guy is with a young impressionable girl.

AuntMargo · 19/10/2022 16:55

What a nightmare, wish you all the best and hope she see's him for what he is. Stick to your guns, dont have him, and let him now how you feel about him. Make him as uncomfortable as possible

Dweetfidilove · 19/10/2022 16:56

thenightsky · 19/10/2022 15:50

I could have written the OP and her follow up posts myself, apart from my DD's vile boyfriend didn't want to move in. She was 16 and he said he was 23. A bit of digging by me turned up his true age... 31. He'd got a 4 year old son 200 miles away and mother of his child was a 'psycho' who refused access. Aye right!

He bought DD flowers and gifts and we got all the 'he treats me like a princess mum, that's how much he loves me' crap. She ended up not going into 6th form for A-levels so she could go live with him. We funded her college however, but he kept finding her jobs so she could pay his bills in the shared house they moved to. Washing up in pubs and restaurants etc. Obviously this impacted her college work.

When she turned 18 he dumped her for a 16 year old thank god.

Christ 😥. Thank God indeed.

pinheadlarry · 19/10/2022 16:56

What country is he from, what does he look like?

JestersTear · 19/10/2022 16:57

There's such a fine line with a ban of J though.
I was dating an abusive loser for about a year. Early on (before the abuse started) I took him home to meet the folks and when I returned on my own the following day (I lived elsewhere) my Dad took me to one side and said that he didn't like R and wouldn't tolerate him in the house any more.
That was fine, as far as it went, R alienated me from friends and family in time, but it meant that when I needed someone to talk to about him, I felt there was nobody to turn to.
I suppose what I'm saying is, be careful with an 'I don't want you seeing him' type conversation. Keep it perhaps to a 'he's not staying overnight', ban and make your DD aware that you're always going to be there for her and supporting her. (I have no doubt about this, I can read how much you love her)

TerfQueen · 19/10/2022 16:57

It’s infuriating to read about let alone live with it! I think you’ve been really quite lenient op, I think I’d have lost my shit on day one. These threads make me feel all queasy, I’ve two daughters and I’m dreading something like this. I really hope he’s not as cunning and morally bankrupt as to try and get her pregnant but he seems to have previous. What a shitty situation op I’m really sorry

Caiti19 · 19/10/2022 16:58

17 year old girl with a 22 year old man? I certainly wouldn't be having him stay over. Ever.

kierenthecommunity · 19/10/2022 16:59

*Is always the same shit with these men isn’t it?

They are always a loving, devoted father who’s ex doesn’t let them see their child because she likes to use the child as a weapon. Ex is a psycho slag who spends the CM on acryllic nails so he stopped paying. Bla bla bla*

Oh yes, I’ve met many many of these men. I used to work as a police officer in a domestic abuse team, and they were often across an interview table from me. And only there as she is a spiteful bitch, making up false accusations to have his life. Obvs.

Does your DD know his date of birth and/or does he face a reasonably unusual/traceable name? As I’d be tempted to do a Claire’s Law application on her behalf. There’s usually a couple of good reasons why a woman doesn’t let her child see his dad, which is rarely due to her being a psycho ex with a screw loose.

One is because there’s been some sort of violence or abuse. The other is he CBA and she’s given up raising her child’s hopes up all the time for a no show.

beetr00 · 19/10/2022 17:00

@crostina1

The only thing you 'may' have some input on, is, if you could encourage your daughter to have the contraceptive implant.

Everything else, she'll probably be stubborn about.

At 17 years old, we all knew that our lives were not those of our parents, we all knew better.

I agree with@minimalwaterdamagee

Good luck

mavismorpoth · 19/10/2022 17:00

Have you ever sat down with your daughter to discuss what type of life she wants in future?

I can't imagine the type of life she wants includes a workshy freeloading man? But perhaps she's just never thought about this, when it's actually really important. We discuss career with our children, but not partner or lifestyle?

I think this is a massive failing and I think it could also solve your issue.

Does she want to work full-time, how long for, what age would she like to retire, how many children, how long off work for each, will she need a man who wants to support her to bring children up for some time? Forever? Or is that regressive? Fine then she wants a husband to support her through mat leave 52 weeks? No, sooner, okay she then wants an equal with similar career aspirations.

What you don't want is to end up carrying someone. No one wants that.

Start having the discussions at least, and she will begin to realise the life she wants is unattainable with this guy. She needs to get out before she gets pregnant, and she needs to sort her priorities out before she's pregnant by the next loser.

I'm sure she has an idea internally. Get her to talk about it. It could be a way to her realising on her own that he's no good instead of you attempting to tell her, which probably won't work.

bigblueyonder · 19/10/2022 17:00

Std check - like all responsible adults do when starting to have unprotected sex. See if you get her on the implant as she is forgetful.

Best bet is to make life uncomfortable for them. When J is up at 3am with a takeaway making a racket, get her up as well to sort out what his problem is. But keep the tone sweet and light, but firm, otherwise dd will get the rage with you.

ChiefWiggumsBoy · 19/10/2022 17:01

She needs to spend some time reading some threads on the relationships board.

God, this must be so hard. Obviously you have to tread carefully.

pantsville · 19/10/2022 17:02

I still don’t think it’s abduction. Yes he’s a complete dickhead and I feel deeply sorry for the ex and child, but I don’t think he has committed an actual crime by letting your DD bring him to your house during his agreed contact time.

But yes, the fact he has decided it’s appropriate to leave his young child with his new teenage girlfriend during his already limited contact time is appalling, you’re not wrong about that.

Cantthinkofanewnameatm · 19/10/2022 17:03

Please ask you dd to go with you to a clinic to get the implant.

I found this odd “I was aware that he had been allowed a visit with his child,”
surely he’d have organised access or is there a reason he has to be permitted a visit?
A nightmare situation for you and YANBU at all.

reigatecastle · 19/10/2022 17:03

My DD thinks that his ex is an evil witch who gets a kick out of keeping a devoted father from his beloved child, and I’m not convinced

ah yes that old chestnut, it's always an evil ex isn't it. He actually sounds a bit like my mum's friend's grandson, who does at least have a full time job but dumps his child (so my mum's friend's grandaughter) with his parents every weekend so he can go off with his new girlfriends.

I'd be very unhappy about this too. Definitely not being unreasonable! What do your dd's friends think of him? If they think he's a creep it might have more weight than your opinion.

AnnieSnap · 19/10/2022 17:03

You are not being unreasonable. Hold your ground and let the relationship play out. It will be a novelty for your 17-year-old. Let’s hope she gets bored.

reigatecastle · 19/10/2022 17:04

so my mum's friend's great grandaughter

Obki · 19/10/2022 17:05

pinheadlarry · 19/10/2022 16:56

What country is he from, what does he look like?

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