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To not want DD’s boyfriend’s child in my house

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crostina1 · 19/10/2022 14:27

This happened yesterday and DD doesn’t get why I am annoyed. My 17 year old DD has a new boyfriend of 22 (will call him J) who she met at work. They got together 2 months ago, and it has moved very fast. He only works 15 hours a week and doesn’t do more because of his ‘mental health’. He had a tough upbringing (DD won’t give the details) and isn’t in contact with any of his family. He has a just turned 3 year old son with an ex who he sees once evey few months. He lives in his friend’s family’s spare room but is outstaying his welcome and needs to be out by Christmas. He is making no plans for this whatsoever, I know the place they work would bite his hand off if he asked them for full-time hours, they are very understaffed and he could then he could a bedsit or rent a bedroom. But he will not consider this.

I caught on to what he was doing straight away. He came to stay over one night and stayed for 5, it was obvious he was trying to move in for free accommodation. I put my foot down and said he can only stay 1 night at a time, and no more than 1 night a week as this is our family home and we have DD’s autistic brother to think about, who is unsettled having a stranger in the home. J makes no effort with us at all. DH cooks every night and J never eats it when offered, he gets a takeaway every night, sometimes in the early hours, waking us up. I haven’t ever actually had a conversation with J, he acknowledges me with a nod when he sees me in the house and that’s it. He knows I don’t like him, he is taking advantage of my daughter. He hasn’t once taken my DD out on a date.

They were both off work yesterday. I was aware that he had been allowed a visit with his child, and that DD would be going. DD was very excited to meet his child. I didn’t agree with it, but saying anything would have been futile. I was told they were getting the train to pick him up (child lives in the next town over) going for lunch and to the park and then taking him back to his mum. I finished work early and came home at 3 and opened the door to find the child playing in my hallway, with DD sat in the living room with the door open watching him. J had gone to the shop.

DD hasn’t ever really been around young children, she would haven’t a clue what to do if he’d have had a tantrum and the child was playing next to our heater which was on full blast. I was not at all comfortable with this and read DD the riot act about how this is the first time she has met this child and that it was incredibly inappropriate for J to leave her with him. J was gone for a further half an hour. DD said they went to the park and it was closed off (don’t believe) so J thought it made sense to come here. She said J’s ex (who, I’m told was completely under the impression they WERE at the park/going for lunch and not at mine) is considering letting him have weekly contact and J wants to be able to bring him here as he can’t take him to his mate’s house. I told her in no uncertain terms, no. My house is not a contact centre. DD naively said she thought I’d like it and it’d be like having a grandchild for me.

I had her ring J, find out which shop he was in and then sent her off with the child (who had a pram, thank god as I don’t have a bloody car seat to ferry him about) to meet him so they could take him home.

DD and J don’t get what my problem is. I barely know J. What if something had happened to the child in my house under my DD’s care? In my opinion, taking the child to his new girlfriend’s house when the mother is under the impression they are at the park constitutes a form of low-level abduction, and I wanted no part in the deception.

OP posts:
GeneParmesanPrivateEye · 19/10/2022 17:07

Can you get her the implant/coil/something else, and talk to her about condoms? Belt n braces!!

Thisisnotmyname2 · 19/10/2022 17:08

pinheadlarry · 19/10/2022 16:56

What country is he from, what does he look like?

What?😬

knittingaddict · 19/10/2022 17:10

summergone · 19/10/2022 14:43

Why are you allowing him to stay over at all ! They have been together 8 weeks ! I'm a pretty laid back parent but I wouldn't allow that , way too soon . Plus he is a lazy arse

This.

No randoms were allowed to stay in our home and at 8 weeks I would consider him a random. That might be an unpopular decision, but I stand by it.

AnaJeff · 19/10/2022 17:10

I wonder if the working 15 hrs is to do with not paying CMS? I agree, the leaving your DD with the child is utterly wrong and if mum found out she would probably stop him from seeing the child. Your DD is relatively a stranger still. Shame she cant find out somehow. Anyway, id have the talk with her once. Tell her your fears. Tell her youll always be there for her. But she has to make her own decisions in life. Take a step back and let her make them. If hes ordering takeaways each night, how does he survive on 15 hours pay??

TootMootZoot · 19/10/2022 17:12

Very tricky situation. I'd stick to only one night a week staying over and I'd be doing the hoovering or accidentally setting the fire alarm off nice and early in the morning.

Dweetfidilove · 19/10/2022 17:14

I'm hoping this will burn itself out.

When it does OP, try to get your daughter into counselling, as her level of naivety is dangerous for her.

Mustnotbeleftblank · 19/10/2022 17:15

YANBU OP. Going through this with my DD. Her cocklodger has 3 kids from 2 mothers, a restraining order due to being convicted of harassment of one of the mothers, and a further disclosure DD won't hear from the Police under Clare's law.

DD thinks he's the best thing since sliced bread. It's been 4 months. After trying the kill with kindness approach, when she started joking about making me a grandmother I went full "get yourself the fuck away from not knocked up by this prick" and she upped and left with him. Don't know what to advise, but you have my sympathy.

pinheadlarry · 19/10/2022 17:15

Because im curious

Obki · 19/10/2022 17:16

pinheadlarry · 19/10/2022 17:15

Because im curious

That's not a good reason.

SquashesPumpkinsAutumnBliss · 19/10/2022 17:16

what a nightmare.

hope you and your DD are able to get through this time, and she does well in her studies.

a partner who can only work 15 hours, yet refused medical help to allow him to work more hours is not going to be able to fund another child. Or rather, spends his money on takeaways instead of saving for his rent ???

YANBU to refuse him to stay. Nor to refuse his child Being in your house.

pinheadlarry · 19/10/2022 17:16

Thisisnotmyname2 · 19/10/2022 17:08

What?😬

I just want to know is that a bad thing?

pinheadlarry · 19/10/2022 17:18

Obki · 19/10/2022 17:16

That's not a good reason.

Dont project your ideas on to me

AryaStarkWolf · 19/10/2022 17:19

pinheadlarry · 19/10/2022 17:18

Dont project your ideas on to me

🕵

Gloryofthe80s · 19/10/2022 17:28

Help your daughter see that she can do better. She doesn’t want to be tied down to some looser who can’t work full time or take care of his kid.

CBAironing · 19/10/2022 17:30

I would tell your daughter you thought she thought more highly of herself and had more self respect than to accept scraps from a waste of space. My mum said similar to me as a teen (in a sad reflective way not a nasty attacking way), and it made me stop and think.

Nanny0gg · 19/10/2022 17:32

I'm sorry, but he would be banned.

I couldn't cope with having a rude, obnoxious stranger in my house. Especially with other children living there

And as he hasn't really got anywhere to go, even if your DD stormed off with him, the reality might just send her back home fairly sharpish

Greenstar22 · 19/10/2022 17:35

It's so hard, I met someone similar when I was 20 and my mum hated him. Fast forward 6 years I had a child, was isolated and felt unable to talk to my family because I knew they hated him and would say to leave. I did eventually but it was very difficult. I don't know what to suggest but don't push her towards him too much or when she needs you she might feel she can't talk to you and it will carry on for longer. I would talk to her about contraception in a light way, saying the pill can fail etc why don't we go together and find about the coil/ implant, the number one thing is that she doesn't get pregnant because then she is stuck. Good luck op it's a fine line you will need to tred

user1471538283 · 19/10/2022 17:35

I would never let him across the threshold ever again. I would tell your DD why. He and his child are not your responsibility.

He is showing contempt for you and her. She just wants to find her happy with him and he sees a free home.

Signeduptosimplyreplytothis · 19/10/2022 17:36

What's the saying? No one falls in love faster than someone in need of a roof over their head

ThisIsMeToooo · 19/10/2022 17:37

There is nothing attractive about this man at all and hopefully your daughter will begin to see this. You need to be firm about him staying over or trying to move in and also about his child not being in your house. People saying you might alienate her? He has nothing to offer her - no place to live so what can he really do? What kind of future is that for a 17 year old!

Pixiedust1234 · 19/10/2022 17:39

Who else thinks pinheadlarry is J? 😂

I didn't twig dd was 17. My god is this the norm now, to let bf and gf stay over with children? Because in the eyes of the law they are not fully adults until 18. And the fact that a 22yr male thinks its fine to have sex with a child next to her parents room is raising all kinds of red flags. Kick him out, protect your child. Please.

CeCeDrake · 19/10/2022 17:40

Ah OP this is a crappy situation to have to watch unfold, hindsight will probably be the teacher for your DD unfortunately but hopefully she sees the situation as it really is soon and gets out of it for her futures sake.
maybe show her some of the reasonable responses on this thread?

pinheadlarry · 19/10/2022 17:41

He wants a home, no bills and free childcare

I think your 17 yr old will get sick of him very quickly, fingers crossed

Treesandsheepeverywhere · 19/10/2022 17:41

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Judgemental much?

Many women not just teenage girls have at some point fallen for a loser. Intelligent women at that, blaming the victim is part of how men like this continue to behave this way.
Who's at fault then in a scenario where three girls raised the same, one ends up in a bad relationship whilst her sisters have good marriages?

OP, stop allowing him to sleep over as others have said.
Having set boundaries will hopefully give your daughter the space she needs to see him for what he is.

A friend had this with her daughter just last year, luckily she saw sense and started Uni in September. Good luck.

NewBootsAndRanty · 19/10/2022 17:41

@pinheadlarry he's originally Belgian, and the living spit of Craig Cash.

HTH.

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