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To not want DD’s boyfriend’s child in my house

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crostina1 · 19/10/2022 14:27

This happened yesterday and DD doesn’t get why I am annoyed. My 17 year old DD has a new boyfriend of 22 (will call him J) who she met at work. They got together 2 months ago, and it has moved very fast. He only works 15 hours a week and doesn’t do more because of his ‘mental health’. He had a tough upbringing (DD won’t give the details) and isn’t in contact with any of his family. He has a just turned 3 year old son with an ex who he sees once evey few months. He lives in his friend’s family’s spare room but is outstaying his welcome and needs to be out by Christmas. He is making no plans for this whatsoever, I know the place they work would bite his hand off if he asked them for full-time hours, they are very understaffed and he could then he could a bedsit or rent a bedroom. But he will not consider this.

I caught on to what he was doing straight away. He came to stay over one night and stayed for 5, it was obvious he was trying to move in for free accommodation. I put my foot down and said he can only stay 1 night at a time, and no more than 1 night a week as this is our family home and we have DD’s autistic brother to think about, who is unsettled having a stranger in the home. J makes no effort with us at all. DH cooks every night and J never eats it when offered, he gets a takeaway every night, sometimes in the early hours, waking us up. I haven’t ever actually had a conversation with J, he acknowledges me with a nod when he sees me in the house and that’s it. He knows I don’t like him, he is taking advantage of my daughter. He hasn’t once taken my DD out on a date.

They were both off work yesterday. I was aware that he had been allowed a visit with his child, and that DD would be going. DD was very excited to meet his child. I didn’t agree with it, but saying anything would have been futile. I was told they were getting the train to pick him up (child lives in the next town over) going for lunch and to the park and then taking him back to his mum. I finished work early and came home at 3 and opened the door to find the child playing in my hallway, with DD sat in the living room with the door open watching him. J had gone to the shop.

DD hasn’t ever really been around young children, she would haven’t a clue what to do if he’d have had a tantrum and the child was playing next to our heater which was on full blast. I was not at all comfortable with this and read DD the riot act about how this is the first time she has met this child and that it was incredibly inappropriate for J to leave her with him. J was gone for a further half an hour. DD said they went to the park and it was closed off (don’t believe) so J thought it made sense to come here. She said J’s ex (who, I’m told was completely under the impression they WERE at the park/going for lunch and not at mine) is considering letting him have weekly contact and J wants to be able to bring him here as he can’t take him to his mate’s house. I told her in no uncertain terms, no. My house is not a contact centre. DD naively said she thought I’d like it and it’d be like having a grandchild for me.

I had her ring J, find out which shop he was in and then sent her off with the child (who had a pram, thank god as I don’t have a bloody car seat to ferry him about) to meet him so they could take him home.

DD and J don’t get what my problem is. I barely know J. What if something had happened to the child in my house under my DD’s care? In my opinion, taking the child to his new girlfriend’s house when the mother is under the impression they are at the park constitutes a form of low-level abduction, and I wanted no part in the deception.

OP posts:
DdraigGoch · 20/10/2022 22:40

Yespresh · 20/10/2022 19:36

I hope you read this OP. My DD has put us through hell. She is now nearly 24 and we have come full circle with her. She is now home, studying and happy and nice to us.

This is the route I suggest you go down if DD wants him to stay at yours the answer is yes. I know you hate him but believe me she’ll get sick of him soon.

He can stay at yours. The terms are simple, he gets a job for 40 hours a week, he is quiet between 10pm and 8am. He doesnt take drugs or offer to your daughter. He pays £75 a week towards his keep and your daughter keeps up her schooling. If he gets your DD pregnant he will leave. Simple rules.

Write it down.

Our 18 year old daughter’s BF moved in on various terms. He paid the £75 three times and not the fourth. DD came to us to say she didnt want him at home anymore and we got shot of him. The initial excitement wore off very quickly.

I think that this is useful advice, but I'd tweak it slightly. I think that your one night per week rule is very reasonable, and that when they do try to push past this boundary that would be the point where you say "we'd have to start charging rent", instead of going in upfront with the above offer.

Danielle9891 · 20/10/2022 22:41

crostina1 · 19/10/2022 23:37

My brother lives in Australia with his wife and teenage kids, lovely big house by the beach. I was bloody tempted to get him to send her a message offering her the lifetime experience of a couple of weeks staying with them! He certainly would be happy to. I don’t know. She’d suss it out.

This is a great idea. Keep telling her about the two year working holiday visa that she can get to work and travel Australia, It was the best thing I ever did. The lifestyle over there is amazing. Tell her he would wait if he really cared for her.
Although she has to be 18.

Fingers crossed it works, my mother in law is going through the same thing with my sister in law.

Also next time they have the child over yours I'd book a night away so she can see how hard watching a child really is. Say you've won it to avoid any arguments.

Have you been in touch with the child mother? I know if my child was spending time with another family I'd like them to introduce themselves. You should be able to find her on Facebook.

pollyglot · 20/10/2022 22:49

Mustwedothis
Don't be one of these embarrassing boomers who don't understand mental health.

What a completely unnecessary, insulting, and ignorant comment.

crostina1 · 20/10/2022 22:51

Just had a text from DD, he’s coming to stay tonight when they finish their shift at 12. Delightful

OP posts:
crostina1 · 20/10/2022 22:53

I will be catching them in the hallway before they rush up to her room to avoid me and telling him no takeaways as it disturbs, me, DH and DS.

OP posts:
DaughterofDawn · 20/10/2022 22:55

pollyglot · 20/10/2022 22:49

Mustwedothis
Don't be one of these embarrassing boomers who don't understand mental health.

What a completely unnecessary, insulting, and ignorant comment.

Especially since I was not getting “boomer” vibes from OP at all. Although I think it’s really funny. Originally the online criticism for boomers was about the rich idiots in the white house but now the entire generation is getting crap. My mother is a boomer and shares almost none of the traits they are criticized for. 😂 I find myself distancing from people who throw these labels around so casually.

Charcy · 20/10/2022 22:56

crostina1 · 20/10/2022 22:51

Just had a text from DD, he’s coming to stay tonight when they finish their shift at 12. Delightful

The fact she tells you and doesn't ask is an issue.

"Not tonight DD, you father and I have had a terrible day at work and don't want disturbing, if he wants to come for dinner on (next day off) and stay then he's more than welcome."

My house my rules.

You're not saying never again. But your DD needs some boundaries and tbh, to show you some respect. She's not your friend. She's a child who needs gentle guiding back to the right path. This isn't a judge reply, I've been your DD to a small extent. My parents boundaries helped me make smaller mistakes than I probably would have without them.

LuckySantangelo35 · 20/10/2022 22:59

Charcy · 20/10/2022 22:56

The fact she tells you and doesn't ask is an issue.

"Not tonight DD, you father and I have had a terrible day at work and don't want disturbing, if he wants to come for dinner on (next day off) and stay then he's more than welcome."

My house my rules.

You're not saying never again. But your DD needs some boundaries and tbh, to show you some respect. She's not your friend. She's a child who needs gentle guiding back to the right path. This isn't a judge reply, I've been your DD to a small extent. My parents boundaries helped me make smaller mistakes than I probably would have without them.

@crostina1

this!

op it’s your house not your daughters and not her boyfriends!

you pay the bills and you pay the mortgage

put your foot down

I wouldn’t have dared carry on like that when I was your daughters age

ellyeth · 20/10/2022 23:03

I feel sure you don't want to alienate your own daughter by refusing to allow the young man into the house. Doing so might spoil your relationship and make her more reliant on him.

However, I understand your serious misgivings about this relationship and it is reasonable to set the boundaries you have mentioned - only staying over once a week, etc. You can't help the way you feel about him but I think it would be wise not to communicate those thoughts to your daughter. Try to remain courteous and coolly friendly and hopefully this relationship will fizzle out in time. There is nothing more likely to ignite it than to come down heavy.

Phobiaphobic · 20/10/2022 23:07

This

CountessWindyBottom · 20/10/2022 23:09

This is absolutely hideous, I feel so sorry for you. I'd really try and appeal to your daughter's better judgement (which seems seriously lacking, but then she is only 17) and urge her to get the implant so at least her chances of getting pregnant are minimised. I'd also set further boundaries. It is YOUR house. Having her text this evening and announcing that they are staying there just isn't good enough. You agree on one night a week, arranged with two days notice, and I'd insist on ground rules or he can't stay again. No take aways, no cooking him food, no making life in any way comfortable for him. He's a manipulative creep.

Carlycat · 20/10/2022 23:14

crostina1 · 20/10/2022 22:51

Just had a text from DD, he’s coming to stay tonight when they finish their shift at 12. Delightful

Your ds is taking the piss. How utterly disrespectful. She should be ashamed of herself

Genevieva · 20/10/2022 23:14

This relationship won't last. Just make sure she is using reliable contraception. Otherwise you will have a grandchild of your own and J will be in your life forever.

Carlycat · 20/10/2022 23:15

*dd

SiobhanSharpe · 20/10/2022 23:15

Can you put the deadbolt or similar on the front door so they have to ring to be let in? then they can't sneak past you....

LuckySantangelo35 · 20/10/2022 23:21

Carlycat · 20/10/2022 23:14

Your ds is taking the piss. How utterly disrespectful. She should be ashamed of herself

I know!

anyone would think it was her house!

it’s not, it’s her mothers and fathers

when she has her own house she can invite over who she wants to stay, until then she has to abide by the rules.

ZeldaWillTellYourFortune · 20/10/2022 23:21

Have you considered insisting she quit that job?

Teenager working till midnight on school night? What sort of establishment is this?

ZeldaWillTellYourFortune · 20/10/2022 23:22

I asked permission even to have platonic female friends ( who had known my parents for years) sleep over, at 17.

I didn't announce it.

Hawkins001 · 20/10/2022 23:22

crostina1 · 19/10/2022 14:27

This happened yesterday and DD doesn’t get why I am annoyed. My 17 year old DD has a new boyfriend of 22 (will call him J) who she met at work. They got together 2 months ago, and it has moved very fast. He only works 15 hours a week and doesn’t do more because of his ‘mental health’. He had a tough upbringing (DD won’t give the details) and isn’t in contact with any of his family. He has a just turned 3 year old son with an ex who he sees once evey few months. He lives in his friend’s family’s spare room but is outstaying his welcome and needs to be out by Christmas. He is making no plans for this whatsoever, I know the place they work would bite his hand off if he asked them for full-time hours, they are very understaffed and he could then he could a bedsit or rent a bedroom. But he will not consider this.

I caught on to what he was doing straight away. He came to stay over one night and stayed for 5, it was obvious he was trying to move in for free accommodation. I put my foot down and said he can only stay 1 night at a time, and no more than 1 night a week as this is our family home and we have DD’s autistic brother to think about, who is unsettled having a stranger in the home. J makes no effort with us at all. DH cooks every night and J never eats it when offered, he gets a takeaway every night, sometimes in the early hours, waking us up. I haven’t ever actually had a conversation with J, he acknowledges me with a nod when he sees me in the house and that’s it. He knows I don’t like him, he is taking advantage of my daughter. He hasn’t once taken my DD out on a date.

They were both off work yesterday. I was aware that he had been allowed a visit with his child, and that DD would be going. DD was very excited to meet his child. I didn’t agree with it, but saying anything would have been futile. I was told they were getting the train to pick him up (child lives in the next town over) going for lunch and to the park and then taking him back to his mum. I finished work early and came home at 3 and opened the door to find the child playing in my hallway, with DD sat in the living room with the door open watching him. J had gone to the shop.

DD hasn’t ever really been around young children, she would haven’t a clue what to do if he’d have had a tantrum and the child was playing next to our heater which was on full blast. I was not at all comfortable with this and read DD the riot act about how this is the first time she has met this child and that it was incredibly inappropriate for J to leave her with him. J was gone for a further half an hour. DD said they went to the park and it was closed off (don’t believe) so J thought it made sense to come here. She said J’s ex (who, I’m told was completely under the impression they WERE at the park/going for lunch and not at mine) is considering letting him have weekly contact and J wants to be able to bring him here as he can’t take him to his mate’s house. I told her in no uncertain terms, no. My house is not a contact centre. DD naively said she thought I’d like it and it’d be like having a grandchild for me.

I had her ring J, find out which shop he was in and then sent her off with the child (who had a pram, thank god as I don’t have a bloody car seat to ferry him about) to meet him so they could take him home.

DD and J don’t get what my problem is. I barely know J. What if something had happened to the child in my house under my DD’s care? In my opinion, taking the child to his new girlfriend’s house when the mother is under the impression they are at the park constitutes a form of low-level abduction, and I wanted no part in the deception.

All the best op

crostina1 · 20/10/2022 23:23

@ZeldaWillTellYourFortune.

It’s a pub/B and B.

OP posts:
BadNomad · 20/10/2022 23:28

crostina1 · 20/10/2022 22:51

Just had a text from DD, he’s coming to stay tonight when they finish their shift at 12. Delightful

I don't understand why you didn't say "No, no visitors tonight." You're complaining about him using your house, but you're allowing it.

SantaExpress · 20/10/2022 23:30

I had a “boyfriend” like this when I was 17… no job, no education, troubled home life (lived in council rooms) and with a criminal group of mates.
I thought he was wonderful 🙈 just as your DD does.

While I was at college, the boyfriend was letting himself in my home and stealing money, food, odds and ends and whatever took his fancy! So much went missing and we just couldn’t fathom it.

My DF and me couldn’t work it out, - where the bread and cheese is was going, where was my bus & dinner money, my earrings, etc…. So my DF turned detective and finally worked it all out!

DF went to see the “boyfriend”…. He left the area very soon after and I apologised to DF a million times for not listening to him, when he warned me.

Still cringe about it and it’s 40 years ago… but fair play to DF, he never mentioned it again after the dust settled.

Sorry for your situation OP 💐 hope your DD sees the light very soon.

Obki · 20/10/2022 23:32

Why didn’t you say no, OP?

QS90 · 20/10/2022 23:33

If they can't hang out at yours, they'll have to pay to go out on dates won't they (or even pay get their own place - imagine that!!). Or not see each other - which I can't imagine would be that distressing for you 😂You're not obliged in any way to facilitate this bleak state of affairs. Do you have an OH or other family living with you? What do they say about it all?

On a side note, I'm sure your daughter will see the light within a year at most (hopefully sooner!) and will likely be a bit pickier the next time around. Kissing a cocklodging frog is unfortunately a rite of passage for many of us lol.

Caelan2018 · 20/10/2022 23:33

Your DD is 17 I have a 17 year old DS and no way would any partners stay over as we have others kids in the house and that's way too young for partners to be staying over! The novelty won't be long wearing off whrn her friends meet him don't worry... he is a lazy good for nothing and there is a reason he only sees that child once in the awhile your daughter will see it eventually best of luck I hope it works out in your favor soon x

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