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To not want DD’s boyfriend’s child in my house

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crostina1 · 19/10/2022 14:27

This happened yesterday and DD doesn’t get why I am annoyed. My 17 year old DD has a new boyfriend of 22 (will call him J) who she met at work. They got together 2 months ago, and it has moved very fast. He only works 15 hours a week and doesn’t do more because of his ‘mental health’. He had a tough upbringing (DD won’t give the details) and isn’t in contact with any of his family. He has a just turned 3 year old son with an ex who he sees once evey few months. He lives in his friend’s family’s spare room but is outstaying his welcome and needs to be out by Christmas. He is making no plans for this whatsoever, I know the place they work would bite his hand off if he asked them for full-time hours, they are very understaffed and he could then he could a bedsit or rent a bedroom. But he will not consider this.

I caught on to what he was doing straight away. He came to stay over one night and stayed for 5, it was obvious he was trying to move in for free accommodation. I put my foot down and said he can only stay 1 night at a time, and no more than 1 night a week as this is our family home and we have DD’s autistic brother to think about, who is unsettled having a stranger in the home. J makes no effort with us at all. DH cooks every night and J never eats it when offered, he gets a takeaway every night, sometimes in the early hours, waking us up. I haven’t ever actually had a conversation with J, he acknowledges me with a nod when he sees me in the house and that’s it. He knows I don’t like him, he is taking advantage of my daughter. He hasn’t once taken my DD out on a date.

They were both off work yesterday. I was aware that he had been allowed a visit with his child, and that DD would be going. DD was very excited to meet his child. I didn’t agree with it, but saying anything would have been futile. I was told they were getting the train to pick him up (child lives in the next town over) going for lunch and to the park and then taking him back to his mum. I finished work early and came home at 3 and opened the door to find the child playing in my hallway, with DD sat in the living room with the door open watching him. J had gone to the shop.

DD hasn’t ever really been around young children, she would haven’t a clue what to do if he’d have had a tantrum and the child was playing next to our heater which was on full blast. I was not at all comfortable with this and read DD the riot act about how this is the first time she has met this child and that it was incredibly inappropriate for J to leave her with him. J was gone for a further half an hour. DD said they went to the park and it was closed off (don’t believe) so J thought it made sense to come here. She said J’s ex (who, I’m told was completely under the impression they WERE at the park/going for lunch and not at mine) is considering letting him have weekly contact and J wants to be able to bring him here as he can’t take him to his mate’s house. I told her in no uncertain terms, no. My house is not a contact centre. DD naively said she thought I’d like it and it’d be like having a grandchild for me.

I had her ring J, find out which shop he was in and then sent her off with the child (who had a pram, thank god as I don’t have a bloody car seat to ferry him about) to meet him so they could take him home.

DD and J don’t get what my problem is. I barely know J. What if something had happened to the child in my house under my DD’s care? In my opinion, taking the child to his new girlfriend’s house when the mother is under the impression they are at the park constitutes a form of low-level abduction, and I wanted no part in the deception.

OP posts:
threatmatrix · 20/10/2022 18:04

You need to show your daughter all these comments and say we can’t all be wrong.

chaosmaker · 20/10/2022 18:09

crostina1 · 19/10/2022 14:40

Yes, he is a cocklodger. I sussed him out straight away and can’t stand him using my daughter like his. I have spoken to DD about contraception because I’m worried he will attempt to get her pregnant as an ‘in’ for living with us. I don’t like him nor trust him one bit. He has distracted my DD from her studies. My DD thinks that his ex is an evil witch who gets a kick out of keeping a devoted father from his beloved child, and I’m not convinced. I believe he has used drugs in the past.

In which case, the devoted father bit, why did he leave his child with the girlfriend in a house the child has never been to before? Maybe frame it like that to your daughter if she brings up what a witch the ex is.
The guy, MH problems or not, is not even beginning to try and get any help. Lots of us have depression but still have to also work and pay the bills. You just have to get on with it. It's possible that his family wouldn't allow him to sponge off them any more. Keep your guard up but agree that you don't want to alienate your daughter as at that age she probably thinks she knows best.💐

EatAllDay · 20/10/2022 18:11

Under NO circumstances would my 17 year old be allowed have anyone sleepover. No chance. Pull the plug on this nightmare without further delay

EatAllDay · 20/10/2022 18:12

Your daughter is underage. She is a child. She has been forced into an adult situation beyond her years.

Oscarsdaddy · 20/10/2022 18:13

YANBU

DD is going to find out the hard way with this loser. She should ditch him sharp or the next thing she will become an unpaid child minder if his child needs care again which will eventually become your problem.

Pottyhasamommymouth · 20/10/2022 18:22

YANBU buy please step in and get this relationship to end. A 22 year old man has no business being with a 17 year old. I was the 17 year old once and my mom should of stepped in. He was a lover too and of course I ended up pregnant. I've been raising my son alone for 17 years now. Please tell him he's not allowed around.

DrCoconut · 20/10/2022 18:23

Same here @ZeldaWillTellYourFortune . Until I left home to go to university I had to do what my parents said. I was at 6th form being supported by them in their home and therefore my role was child. They were in charge and set the rules. They weren't abusive, at least by 80s/early 90s standards, but I was too afraid of the consequences to rebel. Plenty of others at school were the same. I'm not in favour of such a strict approach in modern times but I see kids in my son's age group (year 7) who do as they like already.
Regarding the situation here, dialogue is probably key and keeping channels of communication open. I was in an abusive relationship that began when I was 18 and had left home, and having friends and family was key to getting out when the time came. By then I had a child as I had never been taught about contraception and my ex was not bothered, or maybe even wanted me pregnant. I love my oldest DS to bits and would never be without him but his arrival was too early really and probably prolonged my relationship with his father (who we never saw again after I left him).

WTAFhappened123 · 20/10/2022 18:24

He’s a freeloading work shy fop taking advantage of a system that cannot prove poor mental health! I would invite him to a family meeting lay down strict ground rules explain that if he stays the night and uses the facilities he needs to pay x amount contributions, that if he wishes to date your daughter he should prove his worth, that you are not a crèche and do not wish to have his child left at yours etc etc

Yourcatisnotsorry · 20/10/2022 18:24

Get your DD on the implant or coil pronto!!!!

SydneySage · 20/10/2022 18:30

crostina1 · 19/10/2022 15:25

@ICanHideButICantRun.

Yup. DD has been repeating his spiel about how he doesn’t like giving her CM because she spends it on crap for herself. Fucking classic.

Ask her how much it costs to raise a child, and how much deadbeat gives her.

Ameanstreakamilewide · 20/10/2022 18:31

I'd be casually deploying a very careful, but slow trickle of doubt in your daughter's ear about this man.

You might have to manoeuvre her a wee bit.

crostina1 · 20/10/2022 18:44

I managed to find his mum on social media (I’m almost impressed by my research skills!) the other day. He doesn’t speak to her apparently but I saw she is close to child’s mum and sees child often. Which suggests J alienated her

OP posts:
Smallonesaremorejuicy · 20/10/2022 18:45

Bunce1 · 19/10/2022 14:31

You are right. But tread carefully here as you might force your Dd out of her home and into the arms of this zero of a man.

This .

Liorae · 20/10/2022 18:47

crostina1 · 20/10/2022 18:44

I managed to find his mum on social media (I’m almost impressed by my research skills!) the other day. He doesn’t speak to her apparently but I saw she is close to child’s mum and sees child often. Which suggests J alienated her

A meet up for coffee could be interesting.

momtoboys · 20/10/2022 18:47

crostina1 · 19/10/2022 22:25

Her dad tried to have a fatherly talk with her about how a boyfriend should treat her, he thought that it’d get through to her better coming from him as a male (in the sense that he can read the BF better than me as a man). She bit his head of and said we are nasty snobs who think our family is too good for him.

Perhaps her father should have a chat with the POS and see if he can scare him off? I'm so glad I don't have daughters. I think the idea of sending her off to Australia is a great idea. Get her out of there if you can.

MeridianB · 20/10/2022 18:48

crostina1 · 20/10/2022 18:44

I managed to find his mum on social media (I’m almost impressed by my research skills!) the other day. He doesn’t speak to her apparently but I saw she is close to child’s mum and sees child often. Which suggests J alienated her

Wow. His mum could potentially spill the beans on the whole back story, including drugs, any criminal behaviour, similar grooming of teens and why none of the family want to know him.

Risky, too. She may be closer to him than you realise and tip him off.

walkingismedicine · 20/10/2022 18:48

Untitledsquatboulder · 19/10/2022 14:45

Your problem is not this child, your problem is your dd's choice of boyfriend. Agree with a pp, please don't alienate your dd, she'll need to be able to ditch him without losing face.

Completely agree with this

Maytodecember · 20/10/2022 18:49

Is there any way your DD could visit your Australian relative and do work experience? Talk about how good it’ll look on her CV, how her job as a paramedic will be so valuable etc….

momtoboys · 20/10/2022 18:49

I was thinking about your daughter and this situation last night. If I had ever gotten myself involved with someone so undesirable (per my parents ideas) I would have been shipped away to boarding school so fast my head would spin. LOL

Silvers11 · 20/10/2022 18:50

I'm wondering whether you know the address of the Mother of this chap's child? Maybe contact her to let her know what exactly happens with the 3 year old when he has visitation with his child? I wonder if you could find out her views of him? Maybe she might have something which would help your DD see more clearly what this man is like?

LuckySantangelo35 · 20/10/2022 18:50

Is this man really good looking or something?!

cos I can’t see what on earth the attraction would be to the average 17 year old girl

I can’t imagine he is that fit either given the amount of takeaways he is troughing down

gummybearbaby · 20/10/2022 18:53

Agreed, can't work at all because of my mental health (also physically health) and to type it as 'mental health' just screams judgemental to me.

MatronicO6 · 20/10/2022 18:55

I'd tell DD this absolute waste of space isn't allowed in the house full stop. he doesn't even acknowledge you I'm your own home. Pretty sure he'll make himself scarce when he realises he isn't going to worm his way in.

Also would work on DD self esteem that she accepts this loser as a romantic partner.

Toddlerteaplease · 20/10/2022 18:55

I can't imagine the child's mother would have been too happy with her child being left with a 17 year old who's never had any experience with young children. (And that's not saying teenagers can't be good with kids at all)

Janemain · 20/10/2022 18:55

I have a 19 year old, soon to be 20 who I would not allow her boyfriend to stay over. Well I am considering allowing it once in a blue moon because I've met him now and he's lovely, brought a gift the first time I met him and they are both working hard at university.

I'd actually stamp this out and tell your daughter that the staying over thing is not working for the rest of her family and it's over.

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