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To not want DD’s boyfriend’s child in my house

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crostina1 · 19/10/2022 14:27

This happened yesterday and DD doesn’t get why I am annoyed. My 17 year old DD has a new boyfriend of 22 (will call him J) who she met at work. They got together 2 months ago, and it has moved very fast. He only works 15 hours a week and doesn’t do more because of his ‘mental health’. He had a tough upbringing (DD won’t give the details) and isn’t in contact with any of his family. He has a just turned 3 year old son with an ex who he sees once evey few months. He lives in his friend’s family’s spare room but is outstaying his welcome and needs to be out by Christmas. He is making no plans for this whatsoever, I know the place they work would bite his hand off if he asked them for full-time hours, they are very understaffed and he could then he could a bedsit or rent a bedroom. But he will not consider this.

I caught on to what he was doing straight away. He came to stay over one night and stayed for 5, it was obvious he was trying to move in for free accommodation. I put my foot down and said he can only stay 1 night at a time, and no more than 1 night a week as this is our family home and we have DD’s autistic brother to think about, who is unsettled having a stranger in the home. J makes no effort with us at all. DH cooks every night and J never eats it when offered, he gets a takeaway every night, sometimes in the early hours, waking us up. I haven’t ever actually had a conversation with J, he acknowledges me with a nod when he sees me in the house and that’s it. He knows I don’t like him, he is taking advantage of my daughter. He hasn’t once taken my DD out on a date.

They were both off work yesterday. I was aware that he had been allowed a visit with his child, and that DD would be going. DD was very excited to meet his child. I didn’t agree with it, but saying anything would have been futile. I was told they were getting the train to pick him up (child lives in the next town over) going for lunch and to the park and then taking him back to his mum. I finished work early and came home at 3 and opened the door to find the child playing in my hallway, with DD sat in the living room with the door open watching him. J had gone to the shop.

DD hasn’t ever really been around young children, she would haven’t a clue what to do if he’d have had a tantrum and the child was playing next to our heater which was on full blast. I was not at all comfortable with this and read DD the riot act about how this is the first time she has met this child and that it was incredibly inappropriate for J to leave her with him. J was gone for a further half an hour. DD said they went to the park and it was closed off (don’t believe) so J thought it made sense to come here. She said J’s ex (who, I’m told was completely under the impression they WERE at the park/going for lunch and not at mine) is considering letting him have weekly contact and J wants to be able to bring him here as he can’t take him to his mate’s house. I told her in no uncertain terms, no. My house is not a contact centre. DD naively said she thought I’d like it and it’d be like having a grandchild for me.

I had her ring J, find out which shop he was in and then sent her off with the child (who had a pram, thank god as I don’t have a bloody car seat to ferry him about) to meet him so they could take him home.

DD and J don’t get what my problem is. I barely know J. What if something had happened to the child in my house under my DD’s care? In my opinion, taking the child to his new girlfriend’s house when the mother is under the impression they are at the park constitutes a form of low-level abduction, and I wanted no part in the deception.

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ChocolateCareBear · 19/10/2022 23:19

Oh OP, hugs!!! Not a solution but could you treat her to a weeks holiday with you or family or friends just to get her away for a bit and to experience something new, fun and interesting? Far enough that he can't afford to go or that she could afford to pay for him of course. My parents did this when I was in a similar situation many moons ago. It was the beginning of the end. Realised there was so much more out there.

EmmaH2022 · 19/10/2022 23:33

crostina1 · 19/10/2022 21:09

@Mannymoomin.

I’ve referenced several times her being on the pill.

I can’t drag her kicking and screaming to the clinic can I?

OP I really worry about this bit

of course you can't drag her, but you can say "please get an implant fitted. I'll come with you and you don't have to worry about taking the pill".

are there any friends who can help by getting her interested in all her life options?

even if you can find a pretty boy with a job in a bank. Anything to get her away from this loser.

btw I have had mental health problems for decades. That's not the issue here, the guy's just a wanker.

CoastalWave · 19/10/2022 23:33

You allowed a 22 yr old man to stay the night in your house with your 17yr old daughter?

Why the fuck did you do that?! Ridiculous. Lets hope you haven't put your foot down too late. Should have done it 8 weeks ago when it first started.

crostina1 · 19/10/2022 23:37

My brother lives in Australia with his wife and teenage kids, lovely big house by the beach. I was bloody tempted to get him to send her a message offering her the lifetime experience of a couple of weeks staying with them! He certainly would be happy to. I don’t know. She’d suss it out.

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TokiTotally · 19/10/2022 23:38

I developed serious MH issues in my forties bipolar and PTSD due to a terrible event. Has he actually been diagnosed with anything by a medical professional? Because if he has not it means nothing and may just be his convenient truth to excuse his behaviour on his alleged condition.

You may ostracise her but it’s something I would risk doing because no way would be be getting his foot in the door.

crostina1 · 19/10/2022 23:38

Well, ‘teenage’ being 19 and 20 year old female cousins. I forgot how old they are being so far away.

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EmmaH2022 · 19/10/2022 23:39

CoastalWave · 19/10/2022 23:33

You allowed a 22 yr old man to stay the night in your house with your 17yr old daughter?

Why the fuck did you do that?! Ridiculous. Lets hope you haven't put your foot down too late. Should have done it 8 weeks ago when it first started.

I can understand it
when I was 17, i stayed the night with 21 year old boyfriend at his flat

he wasn't a deadbeat and he had a job

I'd not have gone near a bloke with a child though.

beastlyslumber · 19/10/2022 23:39

crostina1 · 19/10/2022 23:37

My brother lives in Australia with his wife and teenage kids, lovely big house by the beach. I was bloody tempted to get him to send her a message offering her the lifetime experience of a couple of weeks staying with them! He certainly would be happy to. I don’t know. She’d suss it out.

You should do it. Would she really turn it down?

EmmaH2022 · 19/10/2022 23:40

crostina1 · 19/10/2022 23:37

My brother lives in Australia with his wife and teenage kids, lovely big house by the beach. I was bloody tempted to get him to send her a message offering her the lifetime experience of a couple of weeks staying with them! He certainly would be happy to. I don’t know. She’d suss it out.

Sounds like a good plan.

crostina1 · 19/10/2022 23:40

@beastlyslumber. She’d have jumped at the chance pre-J. She chats to her older Aussie cousins online. But now I genuinely don’t know 😞

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Herejustforthisone · 19/10/2022 23:42

crostina1 · 19/10/2022 23:40

@beastlyslumber. She’d have jumped at the chance pre-J. She chats to her older Aussie cousins online. But now I genuinely don’t know 😞

Cunts like J would just coerce her out of it.

beastlyslumber · 19/10/2022 23:45

crostina1 · 19/10/2022 23:40

@beastlyslumber. She’d have jumped at the chance pre-J. She chats to her older Aussie cousins online. But now I genuinely don’t know 😞

It's worth a try! It might be eye opening for her if he stops her from going.

crostina1 · 19/10/2022 23:46

@Herejustforthisone

Yes I think he’d manipulate her out of it. She has a few grand saved up. The flight money (I’d pay half of the flights, can’t afford more) and spends would be from her savings. I think he would be bothered by her spending her savings that he has his eye on. I don’t know if he knows about her savings but he’d soon work it out if she was planning a trip to Oz. Fucking prick, I am so so angry. I think she’d work out if invited to Oz by DB that I’d instigated it to get her away from J as well so would refuse to go out of spite.

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beastlyslumber · 19/10/2022 23:49

What about one of her cousins visiting here?

Worthyornot · 19/10/2022 23:49

CoastalWave · 19/10/2022 23:33

You allowed a 22 yr old man to stay the night in your house with your 17yr old daughter?

Why the fuck did you do that?! Ridiculous. Lets hope you haven't put your foot down too late. Should have done it 8 weeks ago when it first started.

Exactly, going by MN standards this is the norm. In RL I don't know anyone who would allow that.

Bekindnotarsey · 19/10/2022 23:50

I’m a straight talker and don’t pussy foot around, for gods sake grow some balls

  1. It’s YOUR house
  2. Why are you letting the No mark of a bf stay over even one night after seeing each other for two months..just cheapens your daughter
  3. The bf is most possibly using your daughter for digs
  4. This cretin is not your problem, you are for letting him stay, oh and surprise surprise in comes the kid.
  5. your daughter is 17, where’s her respect for you putting you in that situation.
kick him out pronto before anything untoward happens if your daughter don’t like it it’s tough i cannot understand why there is no ground rules here your daughter is your daughter not your sister, get rid of him, they hardly no each other

i expect flack for my post, but I don’t give a shit, be a parent, and tell your daughter you will not stand for it, your daughter will come around, he’s playing her and I can see that a mile away

Weepachu · 19/10/2022 23:51

J is a wasteman.

Money’s on him aiming to knock your DD up to get themselves a free council flat.

Does he pay any CMS? Bet not.

The ages difference is a bit paedo. When she was 15 he was 20…

Does your family have the funds to pay him off to “dump”‘ your daughter and never bother her again? If not perhaps you could online catfish him on insta/snapchat/Facebook with fake photos and chirsp him into meeting. Then let your daughter know he’s a snake and you’ll have the receipts to prove it. 100% this cocklodging wasteman will be a cheater too.

Good luck OP. Do what you can to save your DD from this cretin.

EmmaH2022 · 19/10/2022 23:53

OP have you asked your DD what she sees in him, why she wants to be with someone like this? I'm not saying she will have answers...but being asked might make her stop and think.

Maray1967 · 19/10/2022 23:54

At the very least he needs to be told that if there is one more 3am disturbance due to food delivery that is the last night he stays in your house.

thenewduchessoflapland · 19/10/2022 23:55

@crostina1

My nieces mum X met a man like this;8 years her senior,hasn't worked for a long time due to "health related issue" of which he's very shady about and by X's disclosure he exaggerates greatly.

He isn't close to his family,has multiple children that he has no contact with with 3 "evil witches who keep the children away from him".

He moved in with X only a month after meeting as he was sofa surfing and had an expiration date on that.He knocked X up after only 2 months together.

They got married,X got pregnant again and they moved into another property of which they were both on the tenancy agreement (previously only X was on it).

He was sleeping with another woman during X's last pregnancy,he attempted to keep the house,the furniture and the kids.X ended up moving in with her parents but thankfully got the children back but scumbag STBExH has kept the house,the furniture and moved in OW and her brat and the cherry on the cake was OW having hers and scumbags baby 3 weeks prior to X's youngest's first birthday.

Do absolutely everything you need to in order to run this waster out of your DD's life.

ZeldaWillTellYourFortune · 19/10/2022 23:56

You've got to try something. She is still a minor child yet she has you walking on eggshells. I can't even imagine daring to suggest a sleepover at her age let alone some 22-year-old single father with some half-assed lifestyle. How did even get in the door?

Does she spend any time alone with you at all? Without him? Can't you take her for a ride in the car and lay down the law? Ask her why she is settling for a lazy, rude, entitled cocklodger and why she doesn't want to have a normal life doing fun things like her friends, and following her career ambitions. Tell her he is no longer welcome under your roof.

And if she threatens you, threaten back: If she wants continued parental support for her aspirations, she dumps him and goes to Australia. If she wants to ruin her life and "be an adult" she can go sofa-surf with him and his kids.

The outcome could be no worse than what is slowly unfolding before your very eyes, and might be better.

AcrossthePond55 · 20/10/2022 00:03

This was back in the '70s and the 'age of majority' where I live is 18. When I was 16 I 'fell in love' with a man who was 23. My parents knew that forbidding me to see him would only have made the infatuation last longer. So they allowed him in the house and yard, but that was all. They never offered him food or drink and conversation was kept to a very bare minimum. I can still see my dad sitting in the living room glaring at him over his newspaper. He was not allowed in my room and I was not allowed to go anywhere with him. It petered out pretty fast as he was given no opportunity to be alone with me.

I know you don't have as much control over your DD because of her age, but perhaps if you put a polite 'freeze' on him, he'll get tired of it.

OnTheBrinkOfChange · 20/10/2022 00:08

Maray1967 · 19/10/2022 23:54

At the very least he needs to be told that if there is one more 3am disturbance due to food delivery that is the last night he stays in your house.

No, he needs to be told that due to the 3 am delivery he is not allowed to stay anymore. Don't give a fucker like that another chance!

Booklover3 · 20/10/2022 00:17

I’m sorry I’ve nothing to add except he sounds like a nightmare and I hope she gets rid soon!

Macaroni1924 · 20/10/2022 00:22

Wow he is an absolute dick. Unfortunately I can see the pull for your daughter. Older guy interested in her, he has a child so it makes it appear a proper grown up relationship to her peers.
I had a horrendous boyfriend at 19, my parents hated him and made it very clear. I knew it wasn’t forever but almost to prove them wrong moved in with him. The more you go on at her the more it will push her away. She has to realise herself that this is a rubbish relationship. You allowing him to stay 1 night a week I think is good, stop that and you may never know where she is, she may move out like I did.
He sounds very similar, didn’t like protection, ex was a phsyco. Smoked weed daily though didn’t do anything stronger.
If it’s any consolation it lasted about 6 months, I moved back home and got on with my life, quickly realised he was a waster and after my cash. I completed uni have a great career, an amazing DH and DD now.
With regards to pregnancy that was one thing my mum never dropped she even came round with a bag of condoms when I got an antibiotic to remind me the pill didn’t always work on those. Hated it at the time but definitely did make me more cautious. All I can say is thank fuck I never got pregnant and I think that’s the biggest thing u need to try and stop.

Be supportive
talk seriously about unprotected sex
Explain how horrendous it can be to be tied to someone for life if she does get pregnant
Remind her of her paramedic dreams

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