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To not want DD’s boyfriend’s child in my house

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crostina1 · 19/10/2022 14:27

This happened yesterday and DD doesn’t get why I am annoyed. My 17 year old DD has a new boyfriend of 22 (will call him J) who she met at work. They got together 2 months ago, and it has moved very fast. He only works 15 hours a week and doesn’t do more because of his ‘mental health’. He had a tough upbringing (DD won’t give the details) and isn’t in contact with any of his family. He has a just turned 3 year old son with an ex who he sees once evey few months. He lives in his friend’s family’s spare room but is outstaying his welcome and needs to be out by Christmas. He is making no plans for this whatsoever, I know the place they work would bite his hand off if he asked them for full-time hours, they are very understaffed and he could then he could a bedsit or rent a bedroom. But he will not consider this.

I caught on to what he was doing straight away. He came to stay over one night and stayed for 5, it was obvious he was trying to move in for free accommodation. I put my foot down and said he can only stay 1 night at a time, and no more than 1 night a week as this is our family home and we have DD’s autistic brother to think about, who is unsettled having a stranger in the home. J makes no effort with us at all. DH cooks every night and J never eats it when offered, he gets a takeaway every night, sometimes in the early hours, waking us up. I haven’t ever actually had a conversation with J, he acknowledges me with a nod when he sees me in the house and that’s it. He knows I don’t like him, he is taking advantage of my daughter. He hasn’t once taken my DD out on a date.

They were both off work yesterday. I was aware that he had been allowed a visit with his child, and that DD would be going. DD was very excited to meet his child. I didn’t agree with it, but saying anything would have been futile. I was told they were getting the train to pick him up (child lives in the next town over) going for lunch and to the park and then taking him back to his mum. I finished work early and came home at 3 and opened the door to find the child playing in my hallway, with DD sat in the living room with the door open watching him. J had gone to the shop.

DD hasn’t ever really been around young children, she would haven’t a clue what to do if he’d have had a tantrum and the child was playing next to our heater which was on full blast. I was not at all comfortable with this and read DD the riot act about how this is the first time she has met this child and that it was incredibly inappropriate for J to leave her with him. J was gone for a further half an hour. DD said they went to the park and it was closed off (don’t believe) so J thought it made sense to come here. She said J’s ex (who, I’m told was completely under the impression they WERE at the park/going for lunch and not at mine) is considering letting him have weekly contact and J wants to be able to bring him here as he can’t take him to his mate’s house. I told her in no uncertain terms, no. My house is not a contact centre. DD naively said she thought I’d like it and it’d be like having a grandchild for me.

I had her ring J, find out which shop he was in and then sent her off with the child (who had a pram, thank god as I don’t have a bloody car seat to ferry him about) to meet him so they could take him home.

DD and J don’t get what my problem is. I barely know J. What if something had happened to the child in my house under my DD’s care? In my opinion, taking the child to his new girlfriend’s house when the mother is under the impression they are at the park constitutes a form of low-level abduction, and I wanted no part in the deception.

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NormaTheWife · 19/10/2022 21:29

mauvish · 19/10/2022 20:52

He went to the shop? Why couldn't he take his child to the shop in the buggy?

Or was it a different sort of purchase, not a shop-based one at all?

My first thought!

Aussiegirl88 · 19/10/2022 21:29

I was your DD 17 years ago!

I coulddve written thos exact story, however growing up boys were never allowed to stay over, i thought I knew better I followed him, despite having a home with my family I stayed with him at friends, I was far to young although life experience wise I had 2 jobs at 14 and started my apprenticeship at 16 so I had that. However this guy was an absolute loser already had 1-2 kids he didn't see, I'd always forget the pill I thought I was all grown up too. 17 years old I had my now 16 year old daughter (terrifying to think if she was in the position she has absolutely no where near the experiences i did and no way couldnt I imagine her having a child) I realised as soon as I was pregnant I wanted nothing to do with this guy and and I've never seen him since, neither has my daughter we have an amazing life now, I have an amazing career, husband more children etc.

Point of my story is I was blinded and realised once it was too late luckily he's had no involvement, in fact ive walked past him years ago and he didn't even know who I was and he looked like absolute scum (he always was a loser), if anything I was embarrassed that I even ever
known him.

She needs to be the one too realise this hopefully before it's too late.

crostina1 · 19/10/2022 21:32

Thankfully she is still doing her uni application stuff but her focus on the coursework has drastically decreased and she’s pondering staying in our town rather than the hustling city she really wanted to go to uni in, so I can see it gradually going off kilter

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crostina1 · 19/10/2022 21:35

I am also sure she’s probably subsiding the takeaways due to the sheer volume of them.

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anewlifestarts · 19/10/2022 21:35

Could she start an nhs apprenticeship to become a paramedic ?
Get her busy doing something she wants and away from his influence.

MeridianB · 19/10/2022 21:36

When I discussed if she needed contraception advice DD admitted he doesn’t ‘like’ condoms and didn’t ask her if she was on the pill until they’d already done it several bloody times.

🤮🤮🤮🤮

So she can add risk of STIs to the list. He really is grotesque, isn’t he. I just wouldn’t want this or him under my roof at all.

What does your DH say it all?

Lackofenergy · 19/10/2022 21:36

I don't know what I'd do in your place OP. So tough.
I like the idea of sending her to a work placement , sthg that advances her career prospects.
Take her to see universities she could get into.
Keep talking about long term contraceptiv options.
Encourage fun times with her girlfriends.
Can she change her job?
Go on a family vacation or to visit relatives?
I would find it extremely hard to be civil to the cocklodger , but this is a must, at least in front of your daughter 😏, the last thing you want is to push her straight in his arms.

Pipsquiggle · 19/10/2022 21:37

I feel for you OP. He sounds like a dreadful cocklodger.

Just wondering if she has any good mates who can tell her he isn't all that and why the hell would she want to be a step mum?

Good luck. I really hope she goes to uni further away to get away from him

crostina1 · 19/10/2022 21:39

I worry even if she comes to her senses he will be hard to get rid of. He has already shown he is manipulative.

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Sh05 · 19/10/2022 21:42

You need to arrange a girly night in for her friends. They're bound to talk about what they're upto with their boyfriends.
It'll sink in how different her relationship is when she hears it from her peers.

cc1997 · 19/10/2022 21:44

Please ignore the suggestions saying to show her this thread. She will feel attacked and embarrassed.

itwasntmetho · 19/10/2022 21:46

It’s good that she didn’t feel comfortable with the child, that might help her to remember her pill. I feel for you op.

Lennybenny · 19/10/2022 21:46

I completely understand. My ex took my 2 ds of 3 and 4 to what was his current gf for boxing day with her parents...the ds had no idea who they were, having only met her that day. I was savage...I wanted to go and get them but he wouldn't tell me where they were...

expat101 · 19/10/2022 21:48

It’s tempting if you have the funds to pay an escort to meet him a few times and put the word on him, I bet he would be unfaithful to your DD. Get someone to photograph him and the escort together…

it’s extreme but might be the only legal way to deal to the bloke.

WickedStepmomNOT · 19/10/2022 21:48

Sh05 · 19/10/2022 21:42

You need to arrange a girly night in for her friends. They're bound to talk about what they're upto with their boyfriends.
It'll sink in how different her relationship is when she hears it from her peers.

That's a great idea, let peer pressure work - your telling her he's no good will have the opposite effect. Look at her reaction to yuor telling her about his conviction.

No, try family-love bombing her - are there relatives in an exciting place you could go and visit for a few days? Friends you could send her off on holiday with? Girly nights in and out? Family days out with you and her brother?

NewBootsAndRanty · 19/10/2022 21:51

expat101 · 19/10/2022 21:48

It’s tempting if you have the funds to pay an escort to meet him a few times and put the word on him, I bet he would be unfaithful to your DD. Get someone to photograph him and the escort together…

it’s extreme but might be the only legal way to deal to the bloke.

Wtaf

LemonSwan · 19/10/2022 21:59

Taking drugs in the past. Nah reckon he’s smoking cannabis now. Why else do you need to ‘pop to the shops for half an hour’ but can’t bring your child.

What a waste. Yes ban absolutely.

ALittleBitofVitriol · 19/10/2022 22:04

I'm so sorry @crostina1 what a shit situation.
We tried being very kind to the loser boyfriend - he is the same age and more just a feckless no hoper, your problem sounds much worse, you have all my sympathy! We tried very hard to have non-judgemental conversations about red flags. We tried to set appropriate boundaries. We tried to encourage and facilitate more time with her girlfriends. It all happened so fast, I wish I had sold a kidney sent her off somewhere amazing - like a patisserie course in Paris or something. But I was blindsided, in <3 months we were the devil and his lovely parents had offered a free room for her and after serious boundary pushing & 1 argument later, she was gone, dropped out of uni & her extra curricular stuff that she loved. I thought I was smarter and a better parent than this but here we are.
Good luck crostina, I really do hope you guys have a good outcome.

crostina1 · 19/10/2022 22:09

He really is a parasite. It is horrifying watching him getting his claws in to her

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ZeldaWillTellYourFortune · 19/10/2022 22:15

I'd be tempted to find a bunch of big blokes to have a "chat" and convince him he'd be better off moving on.

Or pay him off. How much do you think it would take to get him to leave her alone?

As others have said, can you find the funds to send her on some grand adventure? By the time she returns he'll have found another mark.

This is just such a horrible situation. Can you ask her flat out, if he were banned from the house would she go and live with him? And if so, why does she have so little respect for you, her father and all you have tried to do for her?

Is he handsome or ?? what's the attraction? He sounds like an uneducated, penniless, mooching asshole. Ask her flat out what do you see in such a twat?

HappyMeal564 · 19/10/2022 22:15

Is he there tonight? Have you gone in and told them the takeaways wake you? I feel so sorry for you what an awful situation, you're really between a rock and a hard place

Aussiegirl123456 · 19/10/2022 22:17

Oh I can’t imagine this OP. I’m so sorry,

Would your daughter consider a ‘better’ form of contraception, one that she can’t forget to take, like an implant? Then once she’s better protected (as I bet he’ll soon ask her to stop taking the pill), you could perhaps then change your tactic and kill him with kindness? It must be so difficult having this vermin of a man suck the life out of your family, while needing to keep your daughter close. Big hug x

Amarantho · 19/10/2022 22:20

If I’d stayed at his, she’d have stood outside his house shouting that he was a paedophile.

The only one committing any sort of offence there would be your mother though. I'm sure the police would be called to escort her away if she's shouting false allegations of peadophilia outside someone's house. That's just ridiculous.

Angelswithflirtyfaces · 19/10/2022 22:20

I dont think kindness to him will help. If she is besotted with him it will look like you approve.
Make it really difficult for him get safeguarding as school involved with the sexual grooming.
Its going to be cold and dark soon dont let him in house if she goes off with him call the police, say a 22 year old is grooming her. Let her and him see its a hassle.
Get your DH to ask him why is he with a child. She is still a child after all playing at mummies and daddies.
Tell her the child needs safeguarding so if he is brought here again you will follow it up.
Then approve of her not with him. Positive comments how she seems happier when he is not around.
If she has got plans to be with him anyway you have already lost but keep on him until she hates the drama.
He has targeted her for a reason what is that reason?
Do you know any lads her own age that can make life seem more fun?

cc1997 · 19/10/2022 22:21

I'd be tempted to find a bunch of big blokes to have a "chat" and convince him he'd be better off moving on.

Or pay him off. How much do you think it would take to get him to leave her alone?

You would genuinely do either of these things yourself? Really? 🤨

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