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To not want DD’s boyfriend’s child in my house

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crostina1 · 19/10/2022 14:27

This happened yesterday and DD doesn’t get why I am annoyed. My 17 year old DD has a new boyfriend of 22 (will call him J) who she met at work. They got together 2 months ago, and it has moved very fast. He only works 15 hours a week and doesn’t do more because of his ‘mental health’. He had a tough upbringing (DD won’t give the details) and isn’t in contact with any of his family. He has a just turned 3 year old son with an ex who he sees once evey few months. He lives in his friend’s family’s spare room but is outstaying his welcome and needs to be out by Christmas. He is making no plans for this whatsoever, I know the place they work would bite his hand off if he asked them for full-time hours, they are very understaffed and he could then he could a bedsit or rent a bedroom. But he will not consider this.

I caught on to what he was doing straight away. He came to stay over one night and stayed for 5, it was obvious he was trying to move in for free accommodation. I put my foot down and said he can only stay 1 night at a time, and no more than 1 night a week as this is our family home and we have DD’s autistic brother to think about, who is unsettled having a stranger in the home. J makes no effort with us at all. DH cooks every night and J never eats it when offered, he gets a takeaway every night, sometimes in the early hours, waking us up. I haven’t ever actually had a conversation with J, he acknowledges me with a nod when he sees me in the house and that’s it. He knows I don’t like him, he is taking advantage of my daughter. He hasn’t once taken my DD out on a date.

They were both off work yesterday. I was aware that he had been allowed a visit with his child, and that DD would be going. DD was very excited to meet his child. I didn’t agree with it, but saying anything would have been futile. I was told they were getting the train to pick him up (child lives in the next town over) going for lunch and to the park and then taking him back to his mum. I finished work early and came home at 3 and opened the door to find the child playing in my hallway, with DD sat in the living room with the door open watching him. J had gone to the shop.

DD hasn’t ever really been around young children, she would haven’t a clue what to do if he’d have had a tantrum and the child was playing next to our heater which was on full blast. I was not at all comfortable with this and read DD the riot act about how this is the first time she has met this child and that it was incredibly inappropriate for J to leave her with him. J was gone for a further half an hour. DD said they went to the park and it was closed off (don’t believe) so J thought it made sense to come here. She said J’s ex (who, I’m told was completely under the impression they WERE at the park/going for lunch and not at mine) is considering letting him have weekly contact and J wants to be able to bring him here as he can’t take him to his mate’s house. I told her in no uncertain terms, no. My house is not a contact centre. DD naively said she thought I’d like it and it’d be like having a grandchild for me.

I had her ring J, find out which shop he was in and then sent her off with the child (who had a pram, thank god as I don’t have a bloody car seat to ferry him about) to meet him so they could take him home.

DD and J don’t get what my problem is. I barely know J. What if something had happened to the child in my house under my DD’s care? In my opinion, taking the child to his new girlfriend’s house when the mother is under the impression they are at the park constitutes a form of low-level abduction, and I wanted no part in the deception.

OP posts:
ElizaSkye · 19/10/2022 19:21

Is your daughter still in education? If so, there will be a safeguarding lead who I would suggest you could speak to. Whilst she’s over the age of consent, this is a safeguarding issue which will be taken seriously.
it’s an inappropriate and potentially coercive relationship and a trusted third party, like a teacher she respects, could be really useful to remind her of her aspirations and to discuss what a healthy age appropriate partnership should look like

Pompom2367 · 19/10/2022 19:23

Would you be able to suggest the implant op on the idea that it would save her taking the pill daily

Poppinjay · 19/10/2022 19:24

DD was always very quiet and never had a rebellious phase so I think this is her version

I think this man is using his child to draw your DD into a situation where she is under his coercive control.

You need to be very careful to maintain a positive relationship with your DD and don't allow him to turn into a common enemy that they unite against as a couple.

I think you're right that he will want to get her pregnant. He will also want to isolate her from her friends and any other sources of support.

You did the right things by asking her about the lack of proper dates. Ask more questions like that. She needs to work out what's happening to her without feeling she has to defend him from you.

catandcoffee · 19/10/2022 19:27

Quitelikeit · 19/10/2022 18:58

Op

i know you are worried but your hatred of this person is sad. They’ll never last it’s fine to show some kindness surely?

Really ?

Weirdlynormal · 19/10/2022 19:31

GCMM · 19/10/2022 19:18

I would start with one simple and uncontroversial thing - no guest comes to my house and orders in their own food. They join in our meal and eat what we provide. It's beyond rude to do anything else. Any objection from the bf, then show him the door.

Good rule. Not too out there, in fact quite reasonable. Kill with some normal family life. He may have never had this.

billy1966 · 19/10/2022 19:33

I wouldn't give a damn about his MH.

Not my problem.

He's a waster using a 17 year old.

Police involvement.
School safe guarding lead.
Report him for drugs.
Get SS involved regarding that child.
Become a thorn in his dide and run him off.

Oh and I would be having a very frank conversation about any pregnancy ideas.

I have absolutely zero interest in being a GM and there would be no rearing of teen babies in this house🙄.

If your dd's ambition is to have a baby I would firmly disabuse her of any idea that a baby would be coming into your house.

I would be bringing her to a GP for permanent contraception to get her through these years.

You really have my sympathy.

Nosleepforthismum · 19/10/2022 19:33

Quitelikeit · 19/10/2022 18:58

Op

i know you are worried but your hatred of this person is sad. They’ll never last it’s fine to show some kindness surely?

Absolutely not. People like this will take a mile if given an inch. Be kind to someone who actually deserves it.

Poppinjay · 19/10/2022 19:33

I missed an important word:

don't allow him to turn you into a common enemy that they unite against as a couple.

RebeccaRose92 · 19/10/2022 19:34

He’s a hobosexual!

Blueblell · 19/10/2022 19:35

It would be good if she met the ex and found her not to be the psycho he claims

Caroffee · 19/10/2022 19:36

upanddownandupanddown · 19/10/2022 14:40

Sorry. I couldn’t get past the fact you said he can’t work more then 15 hours a week because of his ‘mental health’. I can only
work three days a week because of my mental health; mental health problems are real and can be really limiting to someone’s life. So for that, YABU.

Almost everyone struggles with their mental health at some stage in their lives. We can't all reduce our working hours because of it and society wouldn't function if we did. He's only 22. If he can't handle full-time work at that age, there's not much hope for him. He has also fathered a child who is his responsibility but it doesn't sound like he is willing to take any responsibility.

saltinesandcoffeecups · 19/10/2022 19:37

Quitelikeit · 19/10/2022 18:58

Op

i know you are worried but your hatred of this person is sad. They’ll never last it’s fine to show some kindness surely?

Is this a joke?! Surely this is you being sarcastic, right?

EscapeRoomToTheSun · 19/10/2022 19:39

What a fucking creeper. I was in a relationship like this as a teen and I'm so glad it didn't result in pregnancy.

Personally I would ask a large male friend or two to see that he doesn't return. I don't doubt that he's a gutless fuck.

Marcipex · 19/10/2022 19:40

Everything ChocFrog said.

Ponderingwindow · 19/10/2022 19:40

Does your dd have no plans for her future? Have you all set the bar so low that moving out to live with him is even a remote possibility? She has a job, but what is her planned career? How is she going to support herself long term? Is she getting a degree or a certification of some sort? That a 17 year old would even think moving in with this man is an option is what really scares me because that would likely derail most career plans. If it’s a concern, it makes me worry she doesn’t have any.

ThatBliddyWoman · 19/10/2022 19:40

OP you sound brilliant. I hope you're wrong and she doesn't end up in the pudding club with this man though. He sounds dreadful.

Imissmybabygirl · 19/10/2022 19:42

Awful situation, all the best. He sounds like a irresponsible CF.

JessesMum777888 · 19/10/2022 19:46

RebeccaRose92 · 19/10/2022 14:43

I was with someone like this when I was 16. He turned abusive quick.

Ditto this.
also wanted me to have a baby ..
I feel for the poster of this as I pushed everyone who cared for me away because “I Loved him” (I didn’t I thought I knew it all).
don’t mean to be negative but this won’t end well … all you can do is be there for your daughter when the shit hits the fan.
you sound like a great mum btw x

OdeToOceans · 19/10/2022 19:46

I suspect your DD is already pregnant, or trying to get pregnant hence the enjoying grandchild comment.

He would not be staying over, and at 17 my daughter would not be leaving the house for the night with an adult male.

If she did I would be calling the police and reporting her as missing. She is still a child.

Pearshaped20 · 19/10/2022 19:47

Do you know anything else about his past? You mentioned drug taking. Have you thought about Clare Law if you are concerned about him

Daleksatemyshed · 19/10/2022 19:47

Yes, you have to tread carefully here Op so as not to set your DD into defensive mode but you don't have to tolerate this cocklodger of a man. It's him you, or maybe better still, your DH, needs to sort out. He's avoiding you so he can say whatever he does was OK'd by your DD. Tell him a few blunt truths- he's not family and he doesn't get to move in regardless of his house situation and as an occassional guest you expect some manners and decent behaviour.
If there's any way you can get your DD away from him for a while then go for it - 17 is a horrible age , you're so over emotional and no one understands true love but them

Anxiernie · 19/10/2022 19:48

He’ll find accommodation via the council, altho he’ll say he can’t.

He can try, although as a single male he might get no help. You usually have to have some kind of priority need such as

Pregnant

Homeless because of domestic abuse

A care leaver aged 18-20

Homeless due to a fire, flood or other disaster

You can use mental health as a "vulnerable" priority although as he has no diagnosis and isn't receiving treatment for it, it's unlikely.

england.shelter.org.uk/housing_advice/homelessness/get_help_from_the_council/who_qualifies_for_housing

Anxiernie · 19/10/2022 19:50

He would not be staying over, and at 17 my daughter would not be leaving the house for the night with an adult male.

If she did I would be calling the police and reporting her as missing. She is still a child.

But the relationship is completely legal, at 16 she can sleep with adults. I really doubt the police would do anything, especially if she's told you who is she with and it's her boyfriend.

donttellmehesalive · 19/10/2022 19:50

I would feel exactly the same op but I have a friend who experienced similar and her dd now lives with him and is nc with her mum. My advice is to maintain your boundaries whilst giving every impression that you are fully accepting of him and their relationship.

Anxiernie · 19/10/2022 19:54

She has a job, but what is her planned career? How is she going to support herself long term?

Why does everybody have to have long-term career goals and work in some kind of profession or go to uni? Lots of people get by with just a job, it's not a sign of some sort of failure. Maybe she would be happy with "just" a job. You can work your way up from there. She could start working in Gregg's and then become the manager eventually as my friend did, or maybe she would be happy being a teaching assistant or working in a supermarket. Nothing wrong with that.

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