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To not want DD’s boyfriend’s child in my house

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crostina1 · 19/10/2022 14:27

This happened yesterday and DD doesn’t get why I am annoyed. My 17 year old DD has a new boyfriend of 22 (will call him J) who she met at work. They got together 2 months ago, and it has moved very fast. He only works 15 hours a week and doesn’t do more because of his ‘mental health’. He had a tough upbringing (DD won’t give the details) and isn’t in contact with any of his family. He has a just turned 3 year old son with an ex who he sees once evey few months. He lives in his friend’s family’s spare room but is outstaying his welcome and needs to be out by Christmas. He is making no plans for this whatsoever, I know the place they work would bite his hand off if he asked them for full-time hours, they are very understaffed and he could then he could a bedsit or rent a bedroom. But he will not consider this.

I caught on to what he was doing straight away. He came to stay over one night and stayed for 5, it was obvious he was trying to move in for free accommodation. I put my foot down and said he can only stay 1 night at a time, and no more than 1 night a week as this is our family home and we have DD’s autistic brother to think about, who is unsettled having a stranger in the home. J makes no effort with us at all. DH cooks every night and J never eats it when offered, he gets a takeaway every night, sometimes in the early hours, waking us up. I haven’t ever actually had a conversation with J, he acknowledges me with a nod when he sees me in the house and that’s it. He knows I don’t like him, he is taking advantage of my daughter. He hasn’t once taken my DD out on a date.

They were both off work yesterday. I was aware that he had been allowed a visit with his child, and that DD would be going. DD was very excited to meet his child. I didn’t agree with it, but saying anything would have been futile. I was told they were getting the train to pick him up (child lives in the next town over) going for lunch and to the park and then taking him back to his mum. I finished work early and came home at 3 and opened the door to find the child playing in my hallway, with DD sat in the living room with the door open watching him. J had gone to the shop.

DD hasn’t ever really been around young children, she would haven’t a clue what to do if he’d have had a tantrum and the child was playing next to our heater which was on full blast. I was not at all comfortable with this and read DD the riot act about how this is the first time she has met this child and that it was incredibly inappropriate for J to leave her with him. J was gone for a further half an hour. DD said they went to the park and it was closed off (don’t believe) so J thought it made sense to come here. She said J’s ex (who, I’m told was completely under the impression they WERE at the park/going for lunch and not at mine) is considering letting him have weekly contact and J wants to be able to bring him here as he can’t take him to his mate’s house. I told her in no uncertain terms, no. My house is not a contact centre. DD naively said she thought I’d like it and it’d be like having a grandchild for me.

I had her ring J, find out which shop he was in and then sent her off with the child (who had a pram, thank god as I don’t have a bloody car seat to ferry him about) to meet him so they could take him home.

DD and J don’t get what my problem is. I barely know J. What if something had happened to the child in my house under my DD’s care? In my opinion, taking the child to his new girlfriend’s house when the mother is under the impression they are at the park constitutes a form of low-level abduction, and I wanted no part in the deception.

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Motnight · 19/10/2022 18:00

Good luck Op. It sounds horrendous.

And to anyone who thinks that it is the Op's fault that her dd has fallen for this dickhead, think again. My 17 year old dd spent a year with an abusive boyfriend. She had never ever witnessed abuse, had been bought up in a family full of love and kindness. Yet she made this choice. It's really easy to assume that your children won't make ridiculous decisions because they are loved and treated kindly. Doesn't always happen.

Notanotherwindow · 19/10/2022 18:00

I think you are 100% right and not unreasonable in the slightest but just wondering, why is your DD so immature? Is she vulnerable in some way or NT and just very young for her age as this would have a big bearing on how I handled the situation?

If she is ND I'd be advocating hitting the fucking roof, throw him out and ban her from seeing him again tbh because that is creepy and almost predatory.

BadNomad · 19/10/2022 18:01

I think you need to make it clear to him that he is not welcome. He knows you love your daughter and knows you will want to help her, so he knows by working on her she will work on you and he'll be able to get his feet under your table and somewhere to bring his child. You need to stop him coming around. You need to stop supporting their relationship. You're making it too easy for them.

Safer · 19/10/2022 18:03

So hard this one. The more you protest the more you turn it into a Romeo and Julliet saga.

Be fair, be kind but maintain house rules.

This, however, is a time to be investing in your relationship with your DD. Nights out, take-aways, move night, nails done, shopping trips, spa days - etc etc. Keep your rules but bring her closer. The closer you bring her in with fun, laughter and love - the harder job he will have pulling her away.

Safer · 19/10/2022 18:03

Movie* night

Weemummykay · 19/10/2022 18:05

@cc1997 i am pretty sure the mother has every right to know and allow who the child is around. Especially a 17year old girl who is a complete stranger. He only sees his kid once a month/2months so he should be concentrating on being a parent not introducing to every Tom dick and harry.

tiddlywinks2 · 19/10/2022 18:09

I'd book a long weekend break for just you and DD, get her on her own completely away from him. And then I'd talk to her honestly.

You don't need to be horrible about him, just lay the facts out as you see them.

REignbow · 19/10/2022 18:09

I was 17 when I met my 22 year boyfriend (now DH).

My parents didn’t like him and tried to put me off him. It didn’t work (well obviously as we’ve been married Long time).

However, my DH was not as what you describe that he is. He sounds awful, is a chancer and very manipulative!

I agree with the Pp. Do lots of fun things with your DD, wine and dine so to speak. Maybe, ask some of her friends to come out with you both.

JenniferAllisonPhillipaSue · 19/10/2022 18:12

Just a thought with regards to him moving in by stealth, start watching for post from this point onwards for him having changed his address to yours - by which, I mean, look out for your DD intercepting the post before you get to it.

DeadbeatYoda · 19/10/2022 18:15

@Safer
I absolutely agree with the idea of finding ways to connect with the DD.

BreatheAndFocus · 19/10/2022 18:16

Ask your DD if she’ll be the “evil” ex when he moves on to his next victim. Explain that sadly, from experience, you’ve seen lots of men like him, and explain exactly what you mean in detail (cocklodger, gets girls pregnant, etc, etc). Tell her she deserves so much more than him. Ask about her dreams for the future, and encourage her to focus on herself not being a doormat to this loser.

Seaweed42 · 19/10/2022 18:19

She is going for a high maintenance man and then she put her own needs aside.
The place to go with her is the 'what do YOU want for YOUR life' stuff.
Ask her how much of their time is spent talking about DD and her plans and dreams and how much time do they spend talking about the boyfriend's ex and how life has done him wrong?
Ask her to just notice that.
To notice where their conversations go and does she find herself tending to want to talk about his stuff rather than her feelings and what she wants for herself.
Why did the BF not stay with the kid while she went to the shop?

LittleSisterLeavingTown · 19/10/2022 18:19

I voted YANBU. All I can say is, think of that poor child.

LittleSisterLeavingTown · 19/10/2022 18:19

LittleSisterLeavingTown · 19/10/2022 18:19

I voted YANBU. All I can say is, think of that poor child.

Correction: I voted YABU.

SiobhanSharpe · 19/10/2022 18:23

I'm so sorry OP, you must be worried sick with this situation. But a person who was as rude to me in my own house as your DD's cocklodger is to you would not get through my door again, ever.

You did so well speaking to your DD about her friends and their lovely boyfriends and contrasting their lives with hers - I'd also tell her frankly how much more shitty her life would be if she had a baby with this loser. And how you still would not allow him to stay in your house even under those circumstances.
His appalling behaviour will not get any better once he's got his feet under the table.
His row with the delivery driver perfectly illustrates what sort of a person he is. He's a guest in your house and he doesn't give a shit that he's waking you up at all hours! Time to put an end to that too.

Rewis · 19/10/2022 18:24

I can understand being a cocklodger or gold digger. But it requires a special type of person that at the age of 22 the goal is to move in with teenaged girlfriends mum and dad. She seems worryingly naive. 17 and 22 on it's own is not a terrible age difference but add in him being a dad and

I'd talk with the daughter abijr birth control such as coil/implant. Talk to her about her about what she wants from her future. How none of it will be possible with him. Talk with her friends and maybe get them to take her to third wheel on their dates to see what's it like. I'd ban him from spending the nights.

Whitepouringglue · 19/10/2022 18:24

Very reasonable but you're being over dramatic.

BadNomad · 19/10/2022 18:24

LittleSisterLeavingTown · 19/10/2022 18:19

I voted YANBU. All I can say is, think of that poor child.

The OP is thinking of her child.

ThisIsNotThePostYourLookingFor · 19/10/2022 18:25

Aw OP your in a really difficult situation 😕 can you try and make contact with her friends for them to see her more? Maybe they can talk some sense into her. Failing that I would be telling her that both of you want to meet this child’s mother before the child comes back to the house. The mum deserves to know where her child is going and that might shake her into reality

woodhill · 19/10/2022 18:25

crostina1 · 19/10/2022 15:17

I nearly lost it with him the other night. Ordered a takeaway in the early hours and it was late and I could hear him swearing about it and having a go at the driver when it turned up. He woke me up.

That would irritate me.

Why isn't he saving the money

Dweetfidilove · 19/10/2022 18:25

LittleSisterLeavingTown · 19/10/2022 18:19

Correction: I voted YABU.

Are you referring to the cocklodger's son or the OP's poor child?

Whilst I'd feel sorry for the child having J as his dad, I wouldn't entertain him using my home as a contact point either.

Herejustforthisone · 19/10/2022 18:27

What an absolute waster he is. Revolting. Fuck, I hope your daughter sees sense.

Herejustforthisone · 19/10/2022 18:28

What an absolute waster he is. Revolting. Fuck, I hope your daughter sees sense.

SlashBeef · 19/10/2022 18:29

He'd be banned from my house and if DD wanted to kick off about it she could just crack on. You're being emotionally manipulated. I have very low tolerance for this nonsense.

Nandocushion · 19/10/2022 18:29

OP you mention her lovely friend with a boyfriend who takes her on walks and to restaurants etc. Any chance you could have a word with her friend to see what others her age think, sound them out about planting seeds of doubt in her?

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