To name and shame the 110 MPs who voted against buffer zones around reproductive health clinics in the House of Commons yesterday?

[AngeloMysterioso]

These people are ostensibly in favour of women being harassed, possibly when they are already in considerable emotional distress.

If your MPs name is included below, please remember this next time you are standing in a voting booth.

Conservatives

1. Peter Aldous, Waveney
2. Stuart Anderson, Wolverhampton South West
3. Caroline Ansell, Eastbourne
4. Gareth Bacon, Orpington
5. Richard Bacon, South Norfolk
6. Kemi Badenoch, Saffron Walden
7. Steve Barclay, North East Cambridgeshire
8. Scott Benton, Blackpool South
9. Bob Blackman, Harrow East

10. Peter Bone, Wellingborough 11. Suella Braverman, Fareham 12. Andrew Bridgen, North West Leicestershire 13. Fiona Bruce, Congleton 14. Alex Burghart, Brentwood & Ongar 15. Alun Cairns, Vale of Glamorgan 16. Sir William Cash, Stone 17. Miriam Cates, Penistone & Stocksbridge 18. Maria Caulfield, Lewes 19. Rehman Chishti, Gillingham & Rainham 20. Christopher Chope, Christchurch 21. Simon Clarke, Middlesbrough South & East Cleveland

22. Brendan Clarke-Smith, Bassetlaw

23. Robert Courts, Witney

24. Claire Coutinho, East Surrey

25. Gareth Davies, Grantham & Stamford

26. Philip Davies, Shipley

27. Sarah Dines, Derbyshire Dales

28. Michelle Donelan, Chippenham

29. Steve Double, St Austell & Newquay

30. Jackie Doyle-Price, Thurrock

31. Flick Drummond, Meon Valley

32. Iain Duncan Smith, Chingford & Woodford Green

33. Natalie Elphicke, Dover

34. David Evennett, Bexleyheath & Crayford

35. Liam Fox, North Somerset

36. Richard Fuller, North East Bedfordshire

37. Robert Goodwill, Scarborough & Whitby

38. James Gray, North Wiltshire

39. Chris Grayling, Epsom & Ewell

40. Chris Green, Bolton West

41. Andrew Griffith, Arundel & South Downs

42. James Grundy, Leigh

43. Mark Harper, Forest of Dean

44. Sally-Ann Hart, Hastings & Rye

45. John Hayes, South Holland & The Deepings

46. Gordon Henderson, Sittingbourne & Sheppey

47. Philip Hollobone, Kettering

48. Eddie Hughes, Walsall North

49. Jane Hunt, Loughborough

50. Tom Hunt, Ipswich

51. Ranil Jayawardena, North East Hampshire

52. Mark Jenkinson, Workington

53. Caroline Johnson, Sleaford & North Hykeham

54. David Jones, Clwyd West

55. Daniel Kawczynski, Shrewsbury & Atcham

56. Greg Knight, East Yorkshire

57. Danny Kruger, Devizes

58. Andrea Leadsom, South Northamptonshire

59. Edward Leigh, Gainsborough

60. Andrew Lewer, Northampton South

61. Ian Liddell-Grainger, Bridgwater & West Somerset

62. Chris Loder, West Dorset

63. Marco Longhi, Dudley North

64. Julia Lopez, Hornchurch & Upminster

65. Rachel Maclean, Redditch

66. Paul Maynard, Blackpool North & Cleveleys

67. Karl McCartney, Lincoln

68. Esther McVey, Tatton

69. Stephen Metcalfe, South Basildon & East Thurrock

70. Robin Millar, Aberconwy

71. Gagan Mohindra, South West Hertfordshire

72. Damien Moore, Southport

73. Joy Morrissey, Beaconsfield

74. Neil O’Brien, Harborough

75. Mark Pritchard, The Wrekin

76. Jeremy Quin, Horsham

77. Jacob Rees-Mogg, North East Somerset

78. Laurence Robertson, Tewkesbury

79. Mary Robinson, Cheadle

80. David Rutley, Macclesfield

81. Gary Sambrook, Birmingham, Northfield

82. Greg Smith, Buckingham

83. Henry Smith, Crawley

84. Royston Smith, Southampton, Itchen

85. Ben Spencer, Runnymede & Weybridge

86. Alexander Stafford, Rother Valley

87. Jane Stevenson, Wolverhampton North East

88. John Stevenson, Carlisle

89. Bob Stewart, Beckenham

90. Gary Streeter, South West Devon

91. Mel Stride, Central Devon

92. Graham Stuart, Beverley & Holderness

93. Desmond Swayne, New Forest West

94. Robert Syms, Poole

95. Derek Thomas, St Ives

96. Michael Tomlinson, Mid Dorset & North Poole

97. Martin Vickers, Cleethorpes

98. Matt Vickers, Stockton South

99. Theresa Villiers, Chipping Barnet

100. Robin Walker, Worcester

101. Giles Watling, Clacton

102. Heather Wheeler, South Derbyshire

103. Craig Whittaker, Calder Valley

104. Jeremy Wright, Kenilworth & Southam

As well as 6 from the DUP:

1. Gregory Campbell, East Londonderry
2. Jeffrey M Donaldson, Lagan Valley
3. Paul Girvan, South Antrim
4. Carla Lockhart, Upper Bann
5. Ian Paisley, North Antrim
6. Jim Shannon, Strangford

Disgusting! Women must not be abused when attending any centre for an abortion. Lunatic fringe pro-lifers from the USA should be deported. Labour should commit to buffer zones.

Lalalalalalala I refuse to hear anything that disagrees with my view points. Just write that, would save time.

Do your rights of a foetus extend to other areas? Should men be forced to pay child support for foetuses? should parents receive child benefit from the point of conception? should we be able take out life insurance policies on foetuses? open bank accounts?

Or is it just an “unborn child” for the purposes of trampling on women’s rights?

People who defend the killing of unborn children tell lies as naturally as breathing, of course, as we have seen on the thread

Oh the irony. If I were you I’d take my shame and guilt inducing views somewhere else. You quite clearly haven’t read the room - or society generally.

@AngeloMysterioso

I don't know how to repeat your picture, but I don't think the unshaven, cap wearing, tattooed individual is likely typical of the people who attend vigils.

Not least as he is not offering support, but only being confrontational - as you say.

"false flag" activities are quite common, to provide grounds for some legislation where none exist naturally.

Where is the location pictured, what group does the man represent etc? Usually such people identify themselves.

This is debated in scotland right now.

Suddenly during the debate, 2 men - un-named and from an unknown organisation - started appearing outside a sexual health clinic - where abortions are not carried out - with similar harsh signs, shouting the odds.

Amazingly, the MSP responsible for a bill in parliament also turned up at the exact same time with a megaphone, to shout back at them.

I'm sure it was all by chance and she just happened to have her megaphone on her that that day. I mean, who goes anywhere without their megaphone these days?

And all outside a location where abortions do not actually take place, so no-one going for an abortion would have been upset by this charade.

@Blossomtoes

What irony? Do you know what irony means?

If others feel guilt because some value human life and think we should be properly responsible for our own actions, that is unfortunate - but its not those positive, and wholly reasonable values which are causing their guilt.

“False flag”?? Wow you are one of “those” people. Big fan of Alex Jones by any chance?

Do you know what irony means?

Yes, you don’t though apparently. Go away.

@Mapleapple

I would expect my mind is more open than many contributing to the thread. I don't need to resort to lies to shore up my stance, for starters.

Being skeptical about someone posted on an internet forum is hardly a sign of a closed mind.

You take the other approach from the liars, that is, to attempt to reduce the topic to absurdity with your idiotic points about bank accounts for unborn children.

Its only right to refer to what they actually are, rather than dehumanise them with medical terms.

A foetus is a human being at a particular stage of life. I doubt you regularly call the elderly "geriatrics", for example.

Note that, in the UK at least, women do not have the "right" to kill their unborn child. That's another lie.

Legislation was introduced to permit abortion to safeguard a woman's health, in circumstances which were thought to be very rare and limited, and strictly controlled by doctors.

In reality, the legislation is widely flouted - that does not equate to a "right".

So what measures do you propose, @newsaint, for ensuring that children born have a decent quality of life? I assume you're pro free school meals / child benefit / the NHS / subsidised childcare / a living wage so parents can afford to feed their offspring / good maternity provision so that women can comfortably bond with their babies and keep a roof over their head? Pro whatever else it takes for women who feel that they have no choice but to have an abortion to have another option? Pro ensuring that useless men have to pay for their children instead of just vanishing and being ignored by the courts?

And that's laying aside the issue of women's bodily autonomy. To what extent do you believe that other people can be forced to allow the use of their bodies for others' benefit? Forced organ donation?

It's interesting that immediately after the buffer zones amendment was included in the Bill (division 62 votes.parliament.uk/Votes/Commons/Division/1368), the third reading of the Bill was voted on (division 64 votes.parliament.uk/Votes/Commons/Division/1370).

All those conservatives being demonised above voted FOR it and the saintly Labour/LD/SNP voted AGAINST it.

What a strange interpretation to put on what I said…

“Disposable by product of meaningless sex?”

Nothing at all like that in my original post.

You don’t have to be a big bloke in bovver boots to be a deeply unpleasant human being. I was approached by a little old lady outside an abortion clinic who was holding a placard with a picture of an aborted foetus and softly whispered ‘abortion is murder’ to me while I was collecting my friend who had just terminated a pregnancy after being raped by her ex-partner.

I assumed that little old lady was mentally ill. I can’t think why else one would choose to do such a thing.

www.irishtimes.com/news/social-affairs/police-question-woman-arrested-near-marie-stopes-clinic-in-belfast-1.2296513

www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-northern-ireland-63300979.amp

www.irishnews.com/news/northernirelandnews/2021/10/12/news/abortion-clinic-exclusion-zones-needed-to-stop-harassment-campaign-mlas-told-2476492/

That was for @newsaint

Newsaint

We get it you think that the unborn child is of more value than their mothers.

You do not think that women should have autonomy over their bodies.

You see women as expendable, birthing vessels. Lesser humans and less deserving than the foetus

You can preach at us all you want but we can see you for what you are,

It's funny how these anti abortion protestors don't campaign against poverty, domestic abuse and murder of women and children, child abuse, adequate housing, healthcare and education, women's rights etc. They're very much a one trick pony. What do they think happens to unwanted children once they're born? Neglect? Abuse? Hunger? Poverty? Homelessness? Mental illness? Domestic violence? Or are they supposed to be given up for adoption as if that's the answer. If only it were that easy.

Don't police what goes on in someone else's internal organ. It's got nothing to do with anyone other than the owner of that organ.

Maybe new saint is a parody? Hope so! Reported their vilest post.

Religious people. Interfering with human rights for two thousand years now. They also believe in ensuring terminally ill and elderly people suffer at end of life. Spreading misery and hardship wherever they go.

Apologies if anyone else has made this point and I missed it, but isn't this the same Conservative party who is pushing for a Public Order Bill, under which anyone who has protested in the previous 5 years can be forced to "submit to ... being fitted with, or the installation of, any necessary apparatus" to monitor your movements. Or does that just apply to the tofu-eating ones Sue Ellen Braverman hates? They seem to want to be the only arbiters of what constitutes a "nuisance" and what is free speech.

When it comes to a choice between believing someone who claims sainthood and calls people liars, and people speaking from their own experience (not to mention my own experience of having seen these protests) the choice is really fairly straightforward.

@newsaint - My points were logical. If you believe a foetus has more human rights than it’s mother, why are the things I list absurd. And a foetus isn’t a human. It’s a potential human contingent on the mental and physical well-being of its mother and the physical well-being of the foetus itself.

But I am sure you sleep soundly at night in the knowledge your version of God wants children to be born, but then doesn’t give a shit if they die, or starve, or freeze or live in abject poverty and misery. All hail the newsaint’s God, who loves foetuses but hates women and children. Men are alright though eh. Pray about it, I am sure God will say yes, do continue to be absolute shits to women, I love it.

Jesus Christ, fuck the religious right (and then force them to carry to term).

I agree with you @newsaint.

Interesting to read about women who have been pleased to see pro-lifers outside Marie Stopes etc., and been helped to keep their baby: From the Irish Times

This is the sort of scary violent protest that would be banned: Tweet

And all outside a location where abortions do not actually take place, so no-one going for an abortion would have been upset by this charade.

Yes, many of these women-harassing scum (and their defenders) are quite stupid.