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newnamethanks · 2022-10-19T09:34:05+00:00

Dear Lord above, I've seen people removed and banned from pubs for less. She's the ^Home Secretary^. What have we come to?

Booklover3 · 19/10/2022 21:32

vera99 · 19/10/2022 21:26

I thought about it can you share and I will !

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You might want to expand or change it. I was incensed and it was the best I could come up with:

Dear X,

I am writing today to let you know how appalled I am at the alleged bullying, manhandling and awful conduct of Conservative MP's at the vote this evening in regards to fracking.

I feel very strongly that this should not be the behaviour of anyone elected to public office.

I do hope that you are also aghast at the behaviour and how it was handled.

I would like to know your view on the matter, and how you will represent my view on this matter.

This is completely unacceptable and must not be allowed to continue.

It is making a farce of politics.

Yours Sincerely,

Y

^^ I said alleged because I don’t fancy getting any shit from it lol

CreepyDibillo · 19/10/2022 21:32

vera99 · 19/10/2022 21:30

Though numbers count they use that as a dirty constituency poll and I would only bother Tories with them I used to do ministerial correspondence back in the day.

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Good to know, thanks

Maggiethecat · 19/10/2022 21:33

I know some say that the Tory’s have borrowed DT’s Republican Party playbook but this is taking things too far!!

PerkingFaintly · 19/10/2022 21:34

ChristinaXYZ · 19/10/2022 21:13

This has never happened. Will never happen. We've never had that kind of situation where we have not had a worrying number of people suffering economically. Stop waiting for fairy tales. It would be lovely but no political system has ever managed to fix it - we should try obviously but ... should we not have bothered getting the vote because serious poverty had not been dealt with? Should the women who got us the vote have been out campaigning against the much worse poverty levels at the time? Or the women in 60s and 70 that won so many rights for us?

When do we women get to stand up for ourselves? If not now when? Why do women always have to be back of queue and who are vocal Labour supporters who just want to put the boot in one the Tories to put women's rights there?

I tell you something - those women with the fewest financial resources will suffer the most from a Labour government's policies on women's rights and free speech. Poorer women cannot choose private medical care, they have might not the education or confidence perhaps to demand their rights to single sex care or wards for themselves, their daughters or their mothers? They often don't have wealthy friends with spare rooms and are therefore dependent on women's refuges if they want to leave an abusive relationships. How are they served by this attitude, that their sex based rights are less important than an economy which will never be truly fixed (you surely don't believe it will be)?

What about those working class women who end up in prison for relatively minor offences or for looking after drugs or weapons or lying for boyfriend or a son? Or those who are forced into sex work? Or working class lesbians pestered to expanding their dating pool? Putting the boot in on the Tories more important than them?

Imagine being the first in your family to get to university and yet be too uncomfortable to speak your mind, or use the loos!

All women will be thrown under the bus by Labour but the poorest women will suffer the most. A vote for Labour lets all women down.

Keir Starmer this very evening promised to modernise the gender recognition act ( twitter.com/tomhfh/status/1582788329288134656 )- this evening! When you'd think he would think he is on the verge of power and not to rock the boat - he is either so confident he can ride roughshod over women, or does not care, or is too daft to see - he takes Labour women's votes for granted. He thinks people will vote for him whatever and he can please his noisy activists at our expense. I've voted Labour often in the past - they've made it clear they don't want my vote anymore. I cannot truly help poor women by voting Labour - I can help all women by not voting Labour.

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And you'll do what, when Penny Mordaunt is the next Tory Prime Minister?

Honestly, this shitshow of pretending that somehow trans issues AREN'T a Tory party problem is over.

pointythings · 19/10/2022 21:36

@PerkingFaintly the desperation from the Tory faithful is getting laughable now.

@ChristinaXYZ poverty levels were much lower under the previous Labour administratior does help poorer women. But bask in the glory of your GC righteousness and support the Tories if you wish.

Katyaadlerscoat · 19/10/2022 21:36

TheGhostOfLiz · 19/10/2022 21:12

Krishnan Guru-Murthy has apologised to Steve Barclay after calling him a cunt! 😂

They've all gone mad down in Westminster. They really have. Must be something in the air.

Do you have a source /link for the KG-M thing?

IndigoC · 19/10/2022 21:41

Katyaadlerscoat · 19/10/2022 21:36

Do you have a source /link for the KG-M thing?

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twitter.com/jonmao___/status/1582808923161382912?s=21

vera99 · 19/10/2022 21:42

Booklover3 · 19/10/2022 21:32

You might want to expand or change it. I was incensed and it was the best I could come up with:

Dear X,

I am writing today to let you know how appalled I am at the alleged bullying, manhandling and awful conduct of Conservative MP's at the vote this evening in regards to fracking.

I feel very strongly that this should not be the behaviour of anyone elected to public office.

I do hope that you are also aghast at the behaviour and how it was handled.

I would like to know your view on the matter, and how you will represent my view on this matter.

This is completely unacceptable and must not be allowed to continue.

It is making a farce of politics.

Yours Sincerely,

Y

^^ I said alleged because I don’t fancy getting any shit from it lol

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Excellent straight-to-the-point addresses a specific issue and asks for a response without descending into abuse. It might even be worth sending that to your local (online) paper - if you get a response and even if you don't that a story and tweeting it to their account and Facebook if they have any. I shall steal with thanks.

SavingsThreads · 19/10/2022 21:43

Steve baker not Steve Barclay! All the confusion is getting to us too 😂

RedToothBrush · 19/10/2022 21:44

Dear Tory MP

What the buggery bollocks is going on down there? Are you all on crack? Old Vlad is pissing himself on twitter tonight going "bloody hell, and I thought I was doing badly".

Last week you tanked the pound. This week, apparently my pensions goosed and I'm gonna lose my saving as I'll have to pay for my care. Thats if I have any money left after my mortgage going through the roof, surviving the winter with no heating and living off beans. Today there was a report on how maternity services killed a bunch of babies - no one was around to comment cos you were all having a psycho drama. Tomorrow we've got a report on child sex abuse which will get completely ignored.

Are you having a giraffe?

Sort it. Now.

She's not out of her depth treading water. She's been sunk to the bottom of the Mariana Trench.

Put her out of her misery. Its like watching a tortured cat dying.

Yours

A bewildered constituent.

(I DARE YOU - Copy, paste, send)

TheGhostOfLiz · 19/10/2022 21:45

SavingsThreads · 19/10/2022 21:43

Steve baker not Steve Barclay! All the confusion is getting to us too 😂

Yes!

Ooops

It's too hard to keep up. I feel for all the political commentators this evening. Bet they hoped for a quiet one in front of the telly

hesbeingabitofadick · 19/10/2022 21:46

RedToothBrush · 19/10/2022 21:44

Dear Tory MP

What the buggery bollocks is going on down there? Are you all on crack? Old Vlad is pissing himself on twitter tonight going "bloody hell, and I thought I was doing badly".

Last week you tanked the pound. This week, apparently my pensions goosed and I'm gonna lose my saving as I'll have to pay for my care. Thats if I have any money left after my mortgage going through the roof, surviving the winter with no heating and living off beans. Today there was a report on how maternity services killed a bunch of babies - no one was around to comment cos you were all having a psycho drama. Tomorrow we've got a report on child sex abuse which will get completely ignored.

Are you having a giraffe?

Sort it. Now.

She's not out of her depth treading water. She's been sunk to the bottom of the Mariana Trench.

Put her out of her misery. Its like watching a tortured cat dying.

Yours

A bewildered constituent.

(I DARE YOU - Copy, paste, send)

I'll do it tomorrow...my eyes are fucked tonight thru too much screen use.

PerkingFaintly · 19/10/2022 21:49

I'm well past the rolling-my-eyes stage at the earnest criticism of "luxury beliefs" and "purity spirals" by people on MN repeatedly indulging in both.

It's bloody annoying, actually.

Because there are people doing real, brave, good work making sure women's rights are supported in this whole balancing of rights. But on MN the whole thing just gets pulled askew by the frankly bonkers repetition of blatantly false crap that somehow contentious trans issues are the fault of Anyone But The Tories.

(You know, the party actually in power throughout the last decade.)

The level of gaslighting is fucking insulting when the Tories have the Commons' first trans MP.

RedToothBrush · 19/10/2022 21:50

James O'Malley AT Psythor
The Tories are digging a hole so deep they’re going to hit shale gas.

Lewis Goodall AT lewis_goodall
A Conservative MP texts: “if Graham Brady doesn’t act after this then never mind the PM, the whole of the 22 should be replaced by Monday morning.”

Booklover3 · 19/10/2022 21:51

RedToothBrush · 19/10/2022 21:44

Dear Tory MP

What the buggery bollocks is going on down there? Are you all on crack? Old Vlad is pissing himself on twitter tonight going "bloody hell, and I thought I was doing badly".

Last week you tanked the pound. This week, apparently my pensions goosed and I'm gonna lose my saving as I'll have to pay for my care. Thats if I have any money left after my mortgage going through the roof, surviving the winter with no heating and living off beans. Today there was a report on how maternity services killed a bunch of babies - no one was around to comment cos you were all having a psycho drama. Tomorrow we've got a report on child sex abuse which will get completely ignored.

Are you having a giraffe?

Sort it. Now.

She's not out of her depth treading water. She's been sunk to the bottom of the Mariana Trench.

Put her out of her misery. Its like watching a tortured cat dying.

Yours

A bewildered constituent.

(I DARE YOU - Copy, paste, send)

I prefer yours! Please send that 😆

RedToothBrush · 19/10/2022 21:51

Aubrey Allegretti AT breeallegretti
No 10 finally confirm: Chief and deputy chief whip remain in post.

vera99 · 19/10/2022 21:53

RedToothBrush · 19/10/2022 21:44

Dear Tory MP

What the buggery bollocks is going on down there? Are you all on crack? Old Vlad is pissing himself on twitter tonight going "bloody hell, and I thought I was doing badly".

Last week you tanked the pound. This week, apparently my pensions goosed and I'm gonna lose my saving as I'll have to pay for my care. Thats if I have any money left after my mortgage going through the roof, surviving the winter with no heating and living off beans. Today there was a report on how maternity services killed a bunch of babies - no one was around to comment cos you were all having a psycho drama. Tomorrow we've got a report on child sex abuse which will get completely ignored.

Are you having a giraffe?

Sort it. Now.

She's not out of her depth treading water. She's been sunk to the bottom of the Mariana Trench.

Put her out of her misery. Its like watching a tortured cat dying.

Yours

A bewildered constituent.

(I DARE YOU - Copy, paste, send)

You probably make the hired help laugh but it has bin all over it. The piles will be will they ever vote for us and then all the rest. Way back when we got a lot of physical letters the ones in coloured pen were either a laugh or very sad. All got a reply as long as they weren't over-abusive.,

Booklover3 · 19/10/2022 21:53

vera99 · 19/10/2022 21:42

Excellent straight-to-the-point addresses a specific issue and asks for a response without descending into abuse. It might even be worth sending that to your local (online) paper - if you get a response and even if you don't that a story and tweeting it to their account and Facebook if they have any. I shall steal with thanks.

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I literally would send that to the paper and openly question the MP if I were employed… but I’m self employed and we all know how nasty some people can be. My business couldn’t take the hit at the moment with all this madness.

RedToothBrush · 19/10/2022 21:56

fleetstreetfox AT fleetstreetfox
Worth remembering the woman responsible for all this was appointed to govt jobs by 3x Prime Ministers for 10 years, and yet was actually THIS SHIT AT EVERYTHING.

Ouch.

DoubleDinnurs · 19/10/2022 21:58

pointythings · 19/10/2022 21:36

@PerkingFaintly the desperation from the Tory faithful is getting laughable now.

@ChristinaXYZ poverty levels were much lower under the previous Labour administratior does help poorer women. But bask in the glory of your GC righteousness and support the Tories if you wish.

That's all they have to convince people. Pretty poor isn't it?

Aconitum · 19/10/2022 22:00

ChristinaXYZ · 19/10/2022 21:13

This has never happened. Will never happen. We've never had that kind of situation where we have not had a worrying number of people suffering economically. Stop waiting for fairy tales. It would be lovely but no political system has ever managed to fix it - we should try obviously but ... should we not have bothered getting the vote because serious poverty had not been dealt with? Should the women who got us the vote have been out campaigning against the much worse poverty levels at the time? Or the women in 60s and 70 that won so many rights for us?

When do we women get to stand up for ourselves? If not now when? Why do women always have to be back of queue and who are vocal Labour supporters who just want to put the boot in one the Tories to put women's rights there?

I tell you something - those women with the fewest financial resources will suffer the most from a Labour government's policies on women's rights and free speech. Poorer women cannot choose private medical care, they have might not the education or confidence perhaps to demand their rights to single sex care or wards for themselves, their daughters or their mothers? They often don't have wealthy friends with spare rooms and are therefore dependent on women's refuges if they want to leave an abusive relationships. How are they served by this attitude, that their sex based rights are less important than an economy which will never be truly fixed (you surely don't believe it will be)?

What about those working class women who end up in prison for relatively minor offences or for looking after drugs or weapons or lying for boyfriend or a son? Or those who are forced into sex work? Or working class lesbians pestered to expanding their dating pool? Putting the boot in on the Tories more important than them?

Imagine being the first in your family to get to university and yet be too uncomfortable to speak your mind, or use the loos!

All women will be thrown under the bus by Labour but the poorest women will suffer the most. A vote for Labour lets all women down.

Keir Starmer this very evening promised to modernise the gender recognition act ( twitter.com/tomhfh/status/1582788329288134656 )- this evening! When you'd think he would think he is on the verge of power and not to rock the boat - he is either so confident he can ride roughshod over women, or does not care, or is too daft to see - he takes Labour women's votes for granted. He thinks people will vote for him whatever and he can please his noisy activists at our expense. I've voted Labour often in the past - they've made it clear they don't want my vote anymore. I cannot truly help poor women by voting Labour - I can help all women by not voting Labour.

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Thank you for posting this@ChristinaXYZ I just can't understand how women are sleepwalking into allowing the erosion of all we have fought so hard for.
This bloody shambles of a conservative government had better get it's arse into gear to make itself electable in 2 years otherwise all those things we read about in the news will actually be happening on all our doorsteps.

PerkingFaintly · 19/10/2022 22:03

These things are already happening, Aconitum, UNDER THE TORY GOVERNMENT.

I mean, inconvenient facts and all that...

Obki · 19/10/2022 22:06

"The business of government relies upon people accepting responsibility for their mistakes. Pretending we haven't made mistakes, carrying on as if can't see that we have made them, and hoping that things will magically come right is not serious politics"

Clearly a dig and challenge from Su to Liz, saying 'see, I'm resigning over this small mistake, you now need to step down over the mini-budget.'

She probably deliberately send the document from her personal email address.

Blossomtoes · 19/10/2022 22:07

PerkingFaintly · 19/10/2022 21:49

I'm well past the rolling-my-eyes stage at the earnest criticism of "luxury beliefs" and "purity spirals" by people on MN repeatedly indulging in both.

It's bloody annoying, actually.

Because there are people doing real, brave, good work making sure women's rights are supported in this whole balancing of rights. But on MN the whole thing just gets pulled askew by the frankly bonkers repetition of blatantly false crap that somehow contentious trans issues are the fault of Anyone But The Tories.

(You know, the party actually in power throughout the last decade.)

The level of gaslighting is fucking insulting when the Tories have the Commons' first trans MP.

👏🏻👏🏻👏🏻👏🏻👏🏻👏🏻👏🏻👏🏻👏🏻

Some sense at last. Thank you.

walkingonsunshinekat · 19/10/2022 22:07

@Aconitum Did the 45 baby deaths that happened under a Tory Govt pass you by? what about all the other health/maternity scandals under their watch? none of that matter to you?