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Suella Braverman. Is she always like that or is she unwell?

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newnamethanks · 19/10/2022 10:34

Dear Lord above, I've seen people removed and banned from pubs for less. She's the Home Secretary. What have we come to?

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RedToothBrush · 19/10/2022 21:05

Gordon Darroch AT GordonDarroch
We must be approaching the point where the Dutch government gets a call from London to stage a friendly invasion.

Kitty Donaldson AT kitty_donaldson
Prime Minister Liz Truss grabbed Wendy Morton’s arm to try to persuade her not to resign but Morton left the lobby trailing the Prime Minister behind her. In the chaos, the premier did not vote.

itsgettingweird · 19/10/2022 21:05

vera99 · 19/10/2022 21:04

Utter silence from the bots tonight.

For weeks.

Turns out their is a level of indefensible that can't be defended Grin

OhYouBadBadKitten · 19/10/2022 21:06

We simply have no functioning government - I know that's from the Ministry of the bleeding obvious, but I don't know what else to say.

pointythings · 19/10/2022 21:07

vera99 · 19/10/2022 21:04

Utter silence from the bots tonight.

Silly @vera99 , one just rocked up. Not a very good one though - it's all 'the markets' fault' and 'the media's fault'.

Nope, @Mobiledesktop . What the markets want, and what people want, is competence. Which nobody currently in government possesses and so they all need to go.

pointythings · 19/10/2022 21:09

@RedToothBrush I recall a discussion a few weeks ago abobut introducing PR and one poster argued that PR was bad because Belgium was left without a government for three years due to the politicians' inability to form a coalition.

That Belgium thing doesn't look so bad now, does it? I mean, the country functioned perfectly well also because no Brexit

ServerSurfer · 19/10/2022 21:10
Grin
Suella Braverman.  Is she always like that or is she unwell?
IndigoC · 19/10/2022 21:11

Braverman just the start of 'rolling Cabinet reshuffle'

One senior Tory MP predicted the Prime Minister would limp on in power into the new year because there is no "unity candidate" to replace her, writes Nick Gutteridge.

"The party has sullenly decided there's nothing they can do about it," said the top backbencher.

But they warned the next months are likely to prove highly unstable and Suella Braverman's resignation will be the start of a "rolling Cabinet reshuffle".

www.telegraph.co.uk/politics/2022/10/19/liz-truss-news-jeremy-hunt-resign-election-pmqs-live/

I hope not!

RedToothBrush · 19/10/2022 21:12

Newspapers must be having a shit fit. The 9pm deadline for the 10pm first editions has been and gone and no one knows what the fuck is going on. They will be working late tonight I think!

TheGhostOfLiz · 19/10/2022 21:12

Krishnan Guru-Murthy has apologised to Steve Barclay after calling him a cunt! 😂

They've all gone mad down in Westminster. They really have. Must be something in the air.

TheGhostOfLiz · 19/10/2022 21:13

RedToothBrush · 19/10/2022 21:12

Newspapers must be having a shit fit. The 9pm deadline for the 10pm first editions has been and gone and no one knows what the fuck is going on. They will be working late tonight I think!

The Telegraph announced they are running their live blog through the night. Long shifts for someone....

ChristinaXYZ · 19/10/2022 21:13

Ryder68 · 19/10/2022 20:34

I'm with you on this, FiveMins. Guaranteed food and shelter for all of us more important right now.

This has never happened. Will never happen. We've never had that kind of situation where we have not had a worrying number of people suffering economically. Stop waiting for fairy tales. It would be lovely but no political system has ever managed to fix it - we should try obviously but ... should we not have bothered getting the vote because serious poverty had not been dealt with? Should the women who got us the vote have been out campaigning against the much worse poverty levels at the time? Or the women in 60s and 70 that won so many rights for us?

When do we women get to stand up for ourselves? If not now when? Why do women always have to be back of queue and who are vocal Labour supporters who just want to put the boot in one the Tories to put women's rights there?

I tell you something - those women with the fewest financial resources will suffer the most from a Labour government's policies on women's rights and free speech. Poorer women cannot choose private medical care, they have might not the education or confidence perhaps to demand their rights to single sex care or wards for themselves, their daughters or their mothers? They often don't have wealthy friends with spare rooms and are therefore dependent on women's refuges if they want to leave an abusive relationships. How are they served by this attitude, that their sex based rights are less important than an economy which will never be truly fixed (you surely don't believe it will be)?

What about those working class women who end up in prison for relatively minor offences or for looking after drugs or weapons or lying for boyfriend or a son? Or those who are forced into sex work? Or working class lesbians pestered to expanding their dating pool? Putting the boot in on the Tories more important than them?

Imagine being the first in your family to get to university and yet be too uncomfortable to speak your mind, or use the loos!

All women will be thrown under the bus by Labour but the poorest women will suffer the most. A vote for Labour lets all women down.

Keir Starmer this very evening promised to modernise the gender recognition act ( twitter.com/tomhfh/status/1582788329288134656 )- this evening! When you'd think he would think he is on the verge of power and not to rock the boat - he is either so confident he can ride roughshod over women, or does not care, or is too daft to see - he takes Labour women's votes for granted. He thinks people will vote for him whatever and he can please his noisy activists at our expense. I've voted Labour often in the past - they've made it clear they don't want my vote anymore. I cannot truly help poor women by voting Labour - I can help all women by not voting Labour.

justasking111 · 19/10/2022 21:13

I thought we in Wales had our problems, but the shower in Westminster, well there are no words. I'm disgusted with the lot of them

First we had Gove slithering around in Johnson time. Then Sunak slithering around like Voldemort hiding in the shadows.

vera99 · 19/10/2022 21:17

Mobiledesktop · 19/10/2022 21:05

The markets reacted badly to the commitment to subsidies heating bills for a year, on top of our huge debts. The mini budget was strange but the government are in a no win situation now.
They don't have media support and you can't really do well without it.

Google translate Tory to English - "we're totally fucked and we know it and I can't even be arsed to construct a decent argument because there ain't one". Still, you've got your memories and that's what matters, isn't it?

Suella Braverman.  Is she always like that or is she unwell?
RedToothBrush · 19/10/2022 21:18

Christopher Hope AT christopherhope
UPDATE Liz Truss is now in the Whips' Office in the House of Commons, a MP tells me.

It is unclear if the PM has now received the resignation letters of her Chief Whip and Deputy Chief Whip.

vera99 · 19/10/2022 21:20

RedToothBrush · 19/10/2022 21:12

Newspapers must be having a shit fit. The 9pm deadline for the 10pm first editions has been and gone and no one knows what the fuck is going on. They will be working late tonight I think!

How the fuck do you headline this ...

UTTER FUCKING CHAOS

(a paper uses the profanity in full as a headline for the first time)

RedToothBrush · 19/10/2022 21:22

Liz Trus AT trussliz Apr 16, 2015
This is what chaos looks like. #BBCDebate

This tweet hasn't aged well. She said at PMQs today she was a fighter not a quitter. I think that might age badly too.

Scautish · 19/10/2022 21:23

FiveMins · 19/10/2022 19:59

Please please please see the bigger picture. Many 1000s of people are going to die of cold and hunger, commit suicide from the stress of losing their home. 1000s are going to be homeless. 10000 children will go hungry at least once a day. I wear my terf badge with pride but have to prioritise the harm to women caused by the fuckers in government against the harm caused by the awfulness of self ID and all that goes with it.
I hope to god that Labour wakes up but currently the death and abject misery of many people means currently the focus has to be on protecting the most vulnerable. A disproportionate number of whom are women.

Spot on.

Booklover3 · 19/10/2022 21:24

I’ve written to my MP to let him know how I feel about this evening. Doubt it’ll do much good though as he’s a Tory and likes to put his fingers in his ears and sing “la la la la not listening.”

Has anyone else fired an email off?

vera99 · 19/10/2022 21:26

Booklover3 · 19/10/2022 21:24

I’ve written to my MP to let him know how I feel about this evening. Doubt it’ll do much good though as he’s a Tory and likes to put his fingers in his ears and sing “la la la la not listening.”

Has anyone else fired an email off?

I thought about it can you share and I will !

RedToothBrush · 19/10/2022 21:27

Jack Elsom AT JackElsom
🚨🚨🚨 Neither Wendy Morton nor Craig Whittaker are resigning.

Steve Baker tells me he has seen the deputy chief whip tonight, who reassured him neither are quitting tonight.

CreepyDibillo · 19/10/2022 21:27

Booklover3 · 19/10/2022 21:24

I’ve written to my MP to let him know how I feel about this evening. Doubt it’ll do much good though as he’s a Tory and likes to put his fingers in his ears and sing “la la la la not listening.”

Has anyone else fired an email off?

I've given up as I always get obviously templated replies.
I'd imagine that will be the case even more, now that he's Home Secretary...

StrychnineInTheSandwiches · 19/10/2022 21:28

RedToothBrush · 19/10/2022 21:27

Jack Elsom AT JackElsom
🚨🚨🚨 Neither Wendy Morton nor Craig Whittaker are resigning.

Steve Baker tells me he has seen the deputy chief whip tonight, who reassured him neither are quitting tonight.

it's like the fucking hoeky cokey

RedToothBrush · 19/10/2022 21:29

Harry Cole AT MrHarryCole
Clown show.. and need proof of life please...

No10 gone into full bunker mode..

Various journalists suggesting no one at No10 is picking up the phone tonight...

vera99 · 19/10/2022 21:30

CreepyDibillo · 19/10/2022 21:27

I've given up as I always get obviously templated replies.
I'd imagine that will be the case even more, now that he's Home Secretary...

Though numbers count they use that as a dirty constituency poll and I would only bother Tories with them I used to do ministerial correspondence back in the day.

RedToothBrush · 19/10/2022 21:31

Guido Fawkes AT GuidoFawkes
Tl;dr No 10 finally confirm tonight was a vote of confidence, implying no MPs lost their whip. They say talk to the whips office, who not only aren’t replying, they aren’t confirming whether the Chief Whip and the Deputy have resigned.