Will Liz Truss resign today? Part 2: PMQs

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Well she's staggered on to PMQs today. Get the popcorn ready.

Yes. I think Johnson will 'be back' (as he paraphrased when he resigned with: 'Hasta la Vista'. I also think that this was 'the plan' (in some think tank minds) all along. God help us, frankly...

If the country gets Boris again we will certainly have an election.

You’re likely right.

Agree. Plus she banged her Naval drum in her leadership campaign which was called in to question by senior navy personnel.

We vote for a party not a person.

In theory it shouldn’t matter so much who’s in charge as they should all be aligned with the party’s values. So a change in leader, even when that leader is PM, shouldn’t be too much of a change of direction.

But the Tories are SO fractured they aren’t really one party anymore. They are a group of different factions with strongly opposing views. Which means who is the leader of the Tories is, is actually VERY significant, because the direction they take the party will depend on which faction that individual is aligned with.

Year back, I throw you could have a change of PM and it would be largely still consistent. Not so with the Tories now.

Thats why we need a GE in my opinion. Because the country voted for one type of Tory party and now they have a chaotic unstable and fractured one that could potentially go off in a completely different direction from the one people elected for.

Did that committee ever happen? The Johnson one

Although constitutionally difficult to achieve, having Starmer as the new PM would probably be best for the UK, he has been speaking with the EU (in full recognition he is not the PM) but at least he is clear of the ERG and those who have demonstrably caused so many problems in the UK.
World leaders are looking for someone trustworthy for which all Tories have demonstrated their various failings. The UK needs one hell of a 'charm and diplomacy' offensive.

I've seen people saying if Boris is on the table then why not Theresa May - experienced and less controversial than a lot of options.

The Conservative and unionist party!
It's laughable if nothing else.
They can't even unite together

Did that committee ever happen? The Johnson one

Its still ongoing isn’t it? They were trying to dick around with the rules a few weeks back to dilute it iirc.

Truss is a good example of (some) people overthinking - there were so many paid political pundits saying Labour shouldn't underestimate her and that she'd prove everybody wrong.

Trurns out even her worst detractors overestimated her abilities.

It would be best for the U.K. I’m not sure it would be best for the Labour Party. He would blamed for all the hard economic decisions that have to be made.

I’d rather see Sunak in now, take the heat for the shambles and the cuts. Once the worst of the current crisis is dealt with, a new Labour government.

It's worth bearing in mind that, policy-wise, a new leader can't really do anything anway. The markets have already decided a libertarian utopia is a non-starter, Hunt has decided there's going to be austerity, Ukraine policy isn't going to change, and brexit 'got done', everyone's bored of culture wars.

What else is there?

No way would May volunteer for that again. She’s got more sense.

His party got rid of him because his incompetency and scandals were threatening the party's chances of keeping them in power in a future election. He was a joke, a charlatan with an Eton posh accent who had no idea what to do with the government he was leading. So the Tory party got rid of him and chose Truss.

Except Truss is even more on the ideological right and her mini budget was so extreme, there was an outcry in the UK against it and the same people they elect her, now had to get rid of her.

It's all wash, rinse, repeat with a Tory party that departed long ago from pragmatic, fiscally conservative and socially progressive policies. The policies that made the UK great

The Tories today are following the American hard right - destroy the NHS and any other government services, embrace privatisation, go for a low wage economy and have the mainstream news to sell it to the public.

I doubt she would be willing to put her hat in the ring. Johnson I can see doing it.

For all her faults, Theresa may could be a sensible choice. The world leaders witnessed her being bullied by the ERG and the EU knew about Russian funding of the Leave campaign (partly because the various security services of other EU countries were seeing similar happening elsewhere).
On the world stage the UK has lost a LOT of trust and it needs to work hard to regain any. The EU constitution (rules) prevented EU member countries intervening directly in the referendum as it is a sovereign 'activity' which had to be allowed to run it's course. i noticed Mr Barnieres short 'quote' being taken out of context by the Daily Express this morning.

And there it is:

Steven Swinford
EXCLUSIVE:

I'm told that Boris Johnson is expected to stand in the Tory leadership contest

He's taking soundings but is said to believe it is a matter of national interest

Ffs. No other words.

Hmm could be an issue if he does take it and then results come out. All ok if good but then again if not.

Or after this it’s just another slight bump

Literally just what I was going to say! I hope he loses his seat in the next election - I really do.

I don't think even Boris would have expected Liz to fuck things up so spectacularly and so rapidly...

I wonder if he's made it to the airport yet?

Well the hedge fund managers are celebrating Christmas today I expect.Especially the ones who were tipped off about the exact times of announcements. Insider trading ahoy!

Can I say "I told you so!?"

Well well. It's saying something when Boris Johnson is the great hope. But how? All those who sent in letters to get rid though. It gets stranger by the minute.