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What’s a subtle sign that a person is a good person?

263 replies

YouAreNotBatman · 17/10/2022 21:03

As in you can just tell they are good people in an average situation.

OP posts:
Emotionalsupportviper · 17/10/2022 22:28

Headabovetheparakeet · 17/10/2022 21:35

Animals, waiting staff and receptionists. Odd grouping.

Not really.

All of them are at your mercy - they are in a position where they can be at the sharp end of abusive behaviour, and not be able to do anything about it.

RogersOrganismicProcess · 17/10/2022 22:28

Emotionalsupportviper · 17/10/2022 22:25

Bugger!

I've fallen at the cake hurdle.

<consoles self with larger piece of cake>
<shares it with dogs>

😂

FlorettaB · 17/10/2022 22:30

When someone has dropped something I think decent people automatically move to pick it up. If someone falls over, good people automatically go and ask if they’re ok. Nice people who want to help but have anxiety issues or aren’t great with social situations sometimes hover because they’re caught between helping and their own inhibitions. Arseholes just carry on walking or laugh.

Manekinek0 · 17/10/2022 22:33

They don't tell people they are a good or kind person. Those who do always turn out to be vile.

skyhighomen · 17/10/2022 22:33

kerstina · 17/10/2022 21:07

My personal view. If they are good to animals and don’t eat them . On the other end of the scale people who abuse animals are often the same with children . Evil.

Hitler was an animal lover and a veggie..

RobynNora · 17/10/2022 22:34

Something the truly good people I’ve known have in common is a lack of interest in clothes and grooming beyond being clean. Same for their interior decor - they just don’t care. I guess they literally value substance over style. As an averagely vain person I’ve always admired it.

WetLettuce2 · 17/10/2022 22:37

Someone who elevates other without any thoughts or desires to make themselves look good.
I’ve had bosses like this, and it makes them stand out as true leaders too, as well as an all round nice person.

siucra · 17/10/2022 22:38

I agree. I find 'being nice to waitresses' not to be signifier of goodness. And a total cliche. Beware of anyone who is overly nice to staff. Narcissist alert!

And who isn't nice to staff? In all my years I have never seen anyone be rude to people in restaurants - and I have worked as a waitress myself and in bars and pubs.

I am awed by genuinely nice people - I know them and wish I was more like them, the kind of people who don't have an edge to them, who are just really nice and want the best for people. I love being around lovely people!

AffIt · 17/10/2022 22:38

Emotionalsupportviper · 17/10/2022 22:28

Not really.

All of them are at your mercy - they are in a position where they can be at the sharp end of abusive behaviour, and not be able to do anything about it.

Exactly.

Cinnamonandcoal · 17/10/2022 22:39

Stops to help other people life buggies or suitcases up the stairs on the tube. Assuming they physically can.

I would absolutely never go out with someone who failed this test.

belcarra · 17/10/2022 22:39

I think that good people are people whose behaviour and presence has a positive effect on those they come into contact with. If people make us feel uncomfortable by their actions or words (and that will vary), we wont see them as good.

Petros9 · 17/10/2022 22:40

Love, joy, peace, patience, kindness, goodness, faithfulness.

Mango101 · 17/10/2022 22:41

Plumedenom · 17/10/2022 22:14

I agree it takes a really long time to truly figure this out. It is easy to be good when the cost is low. Being polite to a waitress and visiting your mum are "cheap" wins. I read an article the other day about the survival rate of women and children in the biggest naval disasters. You'd think they'd have an advantage...women and children first....but guess who actually survives most? The crew. High personal cost....and you see people's real levels of goodness.

Not so for the Titanic...

alexdgr8 · 17/10/2022 22:42

Celebrityskint · 17/10/2022 22:11

Reading these, all I can see is my late mother in law. From a privileged background but worked with disadvantaged people. Did everything to make them feel comfortable. Welcomed me into the family with open arms even though I'm sure I wouldn't have been who she would have chosen as a daughter in law. She was astonishingly empathetic

is your name Camilla...

AffIt · 17/10/2022 22:42

So, for everybody who sneered at my 'clean shoes' analogy, I'll tell you where I got it from.

When I was in my mid-20s, I went through a horrible, horrible breakdown and the person who pulled me through was, quite frankly, the singularly best and kindest person I have ever met.

They always wore well-polished, well-kept shoes and one day I commented on it, as I found it hard to believe that, with everything they did for other people, they had time to do that, too.

They said that they liked wearing clean shoes for themselves and, if they could take the time to do that one small act of kindness for themselves, they could find time to do the same for others.

So there you go.

Sleepdeprived42long · 17/10/2022 22:43

When I meet someone for the first time, I assume they are good, kind and nice people. It’s only if I then see something they do, or way they make me feel, that isn’t good that will then change my judgment. So not so much a sign of them being good, rather the opposite of your original question OP-sign of them being not good! I’ve met some pretty awful people who have been lovely to waitresses-some people know exactly how to charm!

I do think you can tell a lot about a person by the friends they choose and how they treat those they are responsible for like pets, children, and employees.

BadNomad · 17/10/2022 22:45

Good is something you are, not something you do. Being nice to people and animals doesn't prove someone is good. It just shows they can be good to people and animals. I've met some really "good" people. Everyone said so. "Good" Christians, charity givers, worked with the homeless etc who deep down were the most bigoted nasty racists I've ever met. Someone doing good doesn't mean they're good.

Redrry · 17/10/2022 22:49

Sorry the shoes thing and trolley example are just silly.

MagnoliaTaint · 17/10/2022 22:50

Manekinek0 · 17/10/2022 22:33

They don't tell people they are a good or kind person. Those who do always turn out to be vile.

Oddly true.

a1poshpaws · 17/10/2022 22:51

wb3 · 17/10/2022 21:30

You can often judge the worth of a person by how they treat people who are of no use to them.

Absolutely this. Along with how they treat animals.

RealFeminist · 17/10/2022 22:53

BadNomad · 17/10/2022 22:45

Good is something you are, not something you do. Being nice to people and animals doesn't prove someone is good. It just shows they can be good to people and animals. I've met some really "good" people. Everyone said so. "Good" Christians, charity givers, worked with the homeless etc who deep down were the most bigoted nasty racists I've ever met. Someone doing good doesn't mean they're good.

I'd actually argue the exact opposite. We all have capacity to be wonderfully 'good' and terribly 'bad'. Unless you believe in some kind of immortal soul, I suppose, what else determines our goodness than our actions?

lifeturnsonadime · 17/10/2022 22:53

interesting question.

Actions speak louder than words so I think that it can take more than first impressions or subtle signs.

For me it's those who stick by you when times are really tough. It's those who might wonder if you are doing the right thing but trust you enough to stick by you even when they don't necessarily agree with you.

In my experience this is a rare trait.

marvellousmaple · 17/10/2022 22:55

I agree with the lifelong friends idea. My mum is the most empathetic person I know and she is still friends with girls she went to kindergarten with. She's 87.
Also, there is that type of person that resonates kindness - a doctor I met springs to mind. It's something about the voice, the smile and the eyes. Hard to describe but you know it when you meet it.

Queuesarasarah · 17/10/2022 22:56

greenstrawberries · 17/10/2022 21:09

If they’re kind to those serving them

On a similar note: if they are kind to people who would be considered ‘beneath them’ in some way.
When I’m hiring I often send our most junior person in to do something with them and see how they behave. Decent people aren’t just nice to those they think are important.

merryhouse · 17/10/2022 22:58

@Petros9 you forgot self-control Grin