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To be fuming..

305 replies

sarah8484 · 17/10/2022 13:42

Im at work, dp is at home with our dc 9 months and 13 years. 13 year old is off school sick. Ive just messaged ds on my lunch to see how he is and he has messaged back and said my dp (their dad) had left my 13 year old alone to watch my 9 month old while he went out for 10 minutes. Ive never gave my 13 year old that responsibility before. He said she was playing and he said be back in 10 minutes and just left. Im not going to say anything till im home but can't believe he actually did that!

OP posts:
deeperthanallroses · 17/10/2022 18:40

FlatWhiteExtraHot · 17/10/2022 18:33

I never understand why thread like these run to so many pages. The OP hasn’t bothered to come back to the thread, yet there’s 100 identical comments because no-one can actually RTFT and realise that many, many people have already posted the same damn thing.

Honestly, does everyone posting “he’s 13, it’s not a problem” think they are the first person to come up with that?

One person posting is a random opinion. Several hundred agreeing shows your opinion is in the minority to say the least.

HotWashCycle · 17/10/2022 18:42

Have not read the whole eight pages, and am probably going against the flow here, but I don't think it is fair to ask an older sibling to look after a baby. What if something actually happened? The older child would bear the guilt for his whole life. Having said that, I did babysitting for other people when I was 15. But a 13 year old is too young to be given this responsibility.

onlythreenow · 17/10/2022 19:19

A compete overreaction - and "fuming" ??????

Your DP is allowed to make decisions regarding his own children surely, and it was only 10 minutes.

PoundShopPrincess · 17/10/2022 19:29

Tbh I don't think decisions about when a 13-yr-old DC can watch a baby should be made unilaterally by either parent. Giving DCs more responsibility is always a joint decision in our house.

Some 13-yr-olds would be fine watching a baby. Some wouldn't. It all depends on how much experience they've had. I often watched family babies when I was 13. But I wouldn't leave my 14-yr-old to watch a baby. They wouldn't know what to do if the baby choked. They're not attentive enough to notice if baby popped something in its mouth, etc. They wouldn't know how to calm an upset baby, etc.

Liorae · 17/10/2022 19:34

PoundShopPrincess · 17/10/2022 19:29

Tbh I don't think decisions about when a 13-yr-old DC can watch a baby should be made unilaterally by either parent. Giving DCs more responsibility is always a joint decision in our house.

Some 13-yr-olds would be fine watching a baby. Some wouldn't. It all depends on how much experience they've had. I often watched family babies when I was 13. But I wouldn't leave my 14-yr-old to watch a baby. They wouldn't know what to do if the baby choked. They're not attentive enough to notice if baby popped something in its mouth, etc. They wouldn't know how to calm an upset baby, etc.

And they will never learn how to do any of those things with your attitude.

JennyNotFromTheBlock · 17/10/2022 19:35

PoundShopPrincess · 17/10/2022 19:29

Tbh I don't think decisions about when a 13-yr-old DC can watch a baby should be made unilaterally by either parent. Giving DCs more responsibility is always a joint decision in our house.

Some 13-yr-olds would be fine watching a baby. Some wouldn't. It all depends on how much experience they've had. I often watched family babies when I was 13. But I wouldn't leave my 14-yr-old to watch a baby. They wouldn't know what to do if the baby choked. They're not attentive enough to notice if baby popped something in its mouth, etc. They wouldn't know how to calm an upset baby, etc.

Tbh I don't think decisions about when a 13-yr-old DC can watch a baby should be made unilaterally by either parent. Giving DCs more responsibility is always a joint decision in our house.

Sometimes one parent might not have that luxury and have to make a decision then and there.

antelopevalley · 17/10/2022 19:43

PoundShopPrincess · 17/10/2022 19:29

Tbh I don't think decisions about when a 13-yr-old DC can watch a baby should be made unilaterally by either parent. Giving DCs more responsibility is always a joint decision in our house.

Some 13-yr-olds would be fine watching a baby. Some wouldn't. It all depends on how much experience they've had. I often watched family babies when I was 13. But I wouldn't leave my 14-yr-old to watch a baby. They wouldn't know what to do if the baby choked. They're not attentive enough to notice if baby popped something in its mouth, etc. They wouldn't know how to calm an upset baby, etc.

Why would they not know what to do? I did at that age.

StaunchMomma · 17/10/2022 19:47

He can't be on his own for 10 minutes at 13?

Am I missing something?

Frankola · 17/10/2022 19:52

Sorry, I didn't realise Dad's weren't allowed to make decisions about their children OP....

whynotwhatknot · 17/10/2022 20:04

looked after my baby sister for longer at 13

SnoopyNoseTits · 17/10/2022 20:13

Liorae · 17/10/2022 18:39

How do you manage the mandatory Mumsnet roast dinners? You do realize that the lack thereof is child abuse?

We have a massive salad. Keeps us full for 3 days. Might have some dust if I’m feeling snackish

PoundShopPrincess · 17/10/2022 20:25

No idea why some posters are pretending a DC wouldn't get to do anything because the parents decide together. We don't find it difficult to make a joint decision about our DCs Grin
Also loving the notion that every 13-yr-old has the exact same capabilities regardless of experience. I can only assume those posters haven't met many 13-yr-olds. Capabilities vary wildly as does ability to cope under pressure. It's almost like they're mini people Hmm

Dixiechickonhols · 17/10/2022 20:38

StaunchMomma · 17/10/2022 19:47

He can't be on his own for 10 minutes at 13?

Am I missing something?

You are missing the baby. Op upset because baby left with 13 yr old babysitter for 10 mins.

RiftGibbon · 17/10/2022 20:51

Last month your youngest was 6 months old, when you posted about your lazy partner.

It may well be that you're very stressed, OP, but there seem to be issues with what more pedantic people might call consistency.

ifonlylifewasthateasy · 17/10/2022 20:53

It very much depends on why your oldest is off sick and therefore whether he is able to care for a baby (or himself even)!

JockTamsonsBairns · 17/10/2022 20:54

SirBlobby · 17/10/2022 16:30

@Dixiechickonhols Doesn't matter if it was 10 mins. If an incident happens and wider circumstances indicate that the parents should have exercised better judgement then yes, it would be looked at.

No one is necessarily saying that a child would be removed for an isolated incident , but to say there would be no repercussion is just a lie.

Of course a child wouldn't be removed for an isolated incident - notwithstanding that it's very difficult to imagine what kind of "incident" might happen while a teenager plays peekaboo with an infant for 10 minutes.

donttellmehesalive · 17/10/2022 21:00

I think it's absolutely fine to leave a 13yo babysitting a 9mo for ten minutes.

Presumably their dad is as capable of making judgment calls about this sort of thing as their mum is.

SirBlobby · 17/10/2022 21:32

@JockTamsonsBairns depends what the isolated incident is!

JockTamsonsBairns · 17/10/2022 21:35

SirBlobby · 17/10/2022 21:32

@JockTamsonsBairns depends what the isolated incident is!

Indeed. Perhaps aggravated assault? Murder?

What other isolated incidents would lead to the removal of a child, assuming no previous concerns?

LizzieW1969 · 17/10/2022 21:44

It obviously depends on the 13 year old and the OP hasn’t told us enough about her DS for us to know whether her concerns are unreasonable or not. If he’s NT and reasonably mature for his age, then she’s being very unreasonable. I have three nieces, one of 13 and two older teens, and they would all have been responsible enough to be in charge of a baby for a few minutes, no issues.

But if he has SEN, then that’s potentially a very different scenario. My DD1 is 13 and has SEN as well as adoption related attachment issues. She’s also very emotionally immature for her age. So there’s no way I would leave her in charge of a baby for any length of time.

It also depends on how unwell the OP’s DS is, but I didn’t get the impression from her post that this was her concern.

SirBlobby · 17/10/2022 21:46

@JockTamsonsBairns quite. 🙄

JockTamsonsBairns · 17/10/2022 22:05

SirBlobby · 17/10/2022 21:46

@JockTamsonsBairns quite. 🙄

Why the eye roll?
I asked a genuine question, as I'm struggling to imagine what sort of isolated incident might happen in the space of 10 minutes - where a family are previously unknown to children's services.

EmilyGilmoresSass · 17/10/2022 22:18

OriginalUsername2 · 17/10/2022 17:35

Jeezus, what on Earth prompted you to dig up her history on this question?! That’s creepy.

Because a previous poster mentioned a previous post. And it didn't take much skimming to find that out.

deathofthesnark · 17/10/2022 22:41

peanutbutterontoast7 · 17/10/2022 17:21

Wow that's some serious internet stalking going on there!

OP I think it is a bit of an over reaction and I'd handle it carefully. Just have a chat over what you both think is appropriate.

Ask think some of the comments on here are a bit of an over reaction too.

It's not difficult to search you know?? Its not like you need to be Columbo!

paintitallover · 17/10/2022 22:47

13 year old is off school sick. Ffs of course he shouldn't be childminding.

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