Will Liz Truss resign today?

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Or maybe Tuesday at the latest? Would she really want to face the absolute public humiliation of PMQs on Wednesday?

I’m getting tired of people accusing Labour of having no policies etc when they can’t be bothered to even do a quick Google search
It's not our fault Starmer doesn't cut through. Frankly, as a voter I cba spending ages googling various interpretations of what Labour policies might or might not be based on some little speech somewhere that's to be seen through whichever Guardian propagandist is on duty. I've got better things to do. If Starmer can't spell it out and get it out then he's failed, not us. Or deselect the voters 🤷🏻‍♀️

You left out the selling off of the NHS while our attention is diverted
PLEASE not this rubbish again! It's not even worth the effort to rebut any more.

Except Keir Starmer will sell women's rights down the river.

Honestly, I think we need to focus more on the disease than the symptoms and Truss, like Boris and many others, is just a symptom. The disease is not even the Tory party but the corrupt shit-show that is Westminster party politics. I don't know what the answer is but until we make some fundamental changes to our political system we are just going to get more of the same.

She will be gone by 8pm today.
They will leave her no other option but to go.
You can't run a country by hiding in a house.
She has been an absolute disgrace and succeeded in making herself completely unemployable for the rest of her life.

@Kellie45 You are clearly one of those people who believe the narrative of the right wing press that Labour are so much worse for the economy. the evidence does not support this belief.

It's not our fault Starmer doesn't cut through.

Labour is 30 points ahead. The whole ‘Starmer is boring and unelectable’ shtick doesn’t really cut it anymore.

Except Keir Starmer will sell women's rights down the river

Really? WTAF are you talking about?

At least he's got a brain in his head, unlike the present PM.

Jeremy Hunt seems to be bossing it at no 10 at the moment. I don't particularly like him, but willing to give him a chance.

SafeMove - hate to break it to you but they're current member-led consultations, not policies.

@Mumtofourandnomore And additonally, economic problems have increased by the situation in Ukraine, but this day was always coming due to wild quantative easing (money printing) by the BoE - it can be debated if the Covid response/furlough was "value for money" but the fact is is hugely increased the money supply hence inflation was always going to shoot up.

It's a matter of days now surely,

I cannot imagine how a human being cope with such a horrific public humiliation. No sympathy for her and her car crash arrogance but I am horribly fascinated by her and by Kwarteng to a lesser extent.

I hope the public don't forgive the Tories for what they have done.

A chance to do what? Austerity part 2? Because that’s what he’s said.

Does it matter?

She's no longer in charge. Jezza took over and is running the show.

Its believed he was given the job of Chancellor with no string attached. He's free to go with what he thinks is best. Which means he's now steering the ship.

Getting rid of her is a formality at this point. It will be hard to dislodge Hunt if he brings a bit more stability to the markets. He's an ambitious man...

@Alltheprettyseahorses ah fair enough. Just read the policies bit. My mistake.

Jeremy Hunt seems to be bossing it at no 10 at the moment. I don't particularly like him, but willing to give him a chance

What, like we gave May a chance? Or Johnson? Or the chance Truss just blew?

Can you see a pattern emerging here?

Tory party are no longer conservative. They are toxic UKIP and for the good of the country need to be away from power for a long, long time until they work out what they actually are. They don’t even know themselves anymore.

Frankly, as a voter I cba spending ages googling various interpretations of what Labour policies might or might not be based on some little speech somewhere that's to be seen through whichever Guardian propagandist is on duty

I mean, you could just visit the website where the policies are just...there. No 'guardianista propagandist' needed. Good grief.

There is no opposition that have shared policies before a GE unless in exceptional circumstances. They never do that because there is no point. If they are popular then they cannot earn a vote unless there is a GE and the party in power would just 'steal' them and take the credit before that happens.

See the energy price capping as an example.

That was something Labour abolutely stood firm on and the Tories rejected. Right up until the polls started to flag in favour of it, then the current government adopted it as their policy.

@Alltheprettyseahorses wants a manifesto before a GE is called.

Whatever Hunt is planning to announce later then markets obviously like it. The pound is up against the dollar and, just as importantly, bond yields are falling.

There isn't any credible opposition. That labour wouldn't be any worse or may even be slightly better I accept, but that isn't really the same thing.

The problem is that the country is up to its eyes in debt and there is a looming pensions crisis. People OTOH are expecting some kind of roaring 20s post Covid. The two things are vastly incompatible.

I liked his answer to whether he wants to go for PM the other day - something about it being excised by two goes already

Of course when someone says they don’t want it it can help…

Tory party are no longer conservative.

This I agree with. Ironically Truss has tried to be.

This mini budget/fiscal event/whatever speech malarkey today, will this have OBR oversight ?

This I agree with. Ironically Truss has tried to be

I don’t think she has. She cosied up to the swivel eyed element far more than the moderates, and has massively destabilised the economy with her foolishness.

Not as far as I’m aware. Their official report isn’t due yet. Today’s announcements are solely to quell the markets.