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Will Liz Truss resign today?

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sunnydaytoday0 · 17/10/2022 01:00

Or maybe Tuesday at the latest? Would she really want to face the absolute public humiliation of PMQs on Wednesday?

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vera99 · 17/10/2022 18:15

derxa · 17/10/2022 17:26

Why are your posts always so lacking in compassion?

To the Tories that have done so much damage to this country and it's people and the very stability of the realm why should I? There is a time for righteous anger as Jesus well knew.

And Jesus went into the temple of God, and cast out all them that sold and bought in the temple, and overthrew the tables of the money changers, and the seats of them that sold doves, And said unto them, It is written, My house shall be called the house of prayer; but ye have made it a den of thieves.

Vitriolinsanity · 17/10/2022 18:15

She cannot conceivably survive having reversed almost all of the mini budget.

I cannot sympathise on any political level with her abject incompetence, her failings tick every box from atrocious to zealot and every Conservative that voted for her as Leader should resign along with her.

I don't care what she looks like, I care about her lack of ability in a job she simply isn't qualified to execute.

At what point having gone through Leaders like a dose of salts, must it simply not be legal for the Conservative government to impose unelected nincompoops on the country?

the80sweregreat · 17/10/2022 18:16

She might have gone to see the Doctor
The stress must be enormous, but it's not fair on any of us or her of it's causing all this speculation and we have a de facto PM in J Hunt without anyone knowing anything

derxa · 17/10/2022 18:18

the80sweregreat · 17/10/2022 18:16

She might have gone to see the Doctor
The stress must be enormous, but it's not fair on any of us or her of it's causing all this speculation and we have a de facto PM in J Hunt without anyone knowing anything

I totally agree. She needs to go for her own sake. What a disaster

Metabigot · 17/10/2022 18:19

hesbeingabitofadick · 17/10/2022 16:38

She looks very much like she's trying not to fall asleep.

That'll be the diazepam...

Blossomtoes · 17/10/2022 18:20

I wonder if her husband has said “Look, love, time to go. This is doing you no good”. If he hasn’t, he should.

miceonabranch · 17/10/2022 18:22

See the doctor? Well at least she can get to actually see one what with her private heakthcare and all 😒

Jourdain11 · 17/10/2022 18:23

Ha, I have no respect for the woman, but that's some patriarchal attitude! I don't think anyone ever suggested that Carrie should tell Boris to step back for the sake of his mental health...

vera99 · 17/10/2022 18:25

www.spectator.co.uk/article/can-you-feel-sorry-for-liz-truss-

Much of that sort of infatuated love is almost indistinguishable from wounded narcissism: the desperate need to have our insecurities assuaged. We imagine that, if only they can be persuaded to love us back, the beloved will solve all our problems. We yearn not to know the beloved fully, but for the beloved to know and understand us as nobody else does. We ask them to validate our most cherished ideas of ourselves. And that, of course, sets us up for disappointment.
We abase ourselves before the beloved, and the beloved grows inexplicably crueller. As Yeats warned:

Never give all the heart, for love
Will scarcely seem worth thinking of
To passionate women if it seem
Certain, and they never dream
That it fades out from kiss to kiss.

This is what happened to Liz. Her pash on the market was unrequited. It did not love her back. The market took from her everything she had to give – the bonus cap, the tax breaks – and then it said, roughly: ‘Seeya, loser.’ And it did so, like a cruel bad boy in a teen movie, in front of everybody.

The market didn't love her back, because it doesn't love anyone back. It is an impersonal, collective, often marvellous but entirely unsentimental system for exploiting opportunity and allocating resources. You might as well fall in love with a thunderstorm or a man-eating tiger. And here she is, now, broken-hearted and alone, having pushed away the friends who tried in vain to warn her off her unsuitable infatuation. She tries to front it out, to find scapegoats, to insist, against all the evidence, that she had the right basic idea and it was just the execution that was wrong. Back in the bedroom in her head, she’s singing brokenly along to Liza Minelli: ‘Maybe this time…’

On a psychological level, I think that’s how to understand the story. And it is indeed a matter for sympathy. It’s a reminder of how too human and silly, like us, people in the highest office can be. But it’s certainly not a reason to keep this too human, silly creature in power for a moment longer.

Thatsasmashingblouseyouvegoton · 17/10/2022 18:28

Tories telling posters to have compassion???

Fuck me. Gaslighting. Pure and simple.

I can't see how Truss will make PMQs tomorrow.

Blossomtoes · 17/10/2022 18:33

Jourdain11 · 17/10/2022 18:23

Ha, I have no respect for the woman, but that's some patriarchal attitude! I don't think anyone ever suggested that Carrie should tell Boris to step back for the sake of his mental health...

If I were in the state she’s in my bloke would say it. Sorry if yours would be too busy being right on to do it for you.

woff45 · 17/10/2022 18:40

I wonder if her husband has said “Look, love, time to go. This is doing you no good”. If he hasn’t, he should.

I'm not defending the woman, she's awful, but my god this post is dripping with misogyny. Quickly get her man to sort her out!

Remainiac · 17/10/2022 18:40

Agree with pp that the stress she’s under must be almost unbearable. If she isn’t feeling physically unwell because of it, then there’s something wrong with her.
To swerve the UQ today was cringingly embarrassing and she’s going to get burned to a crisp on Wednesday. Someone has to save her from herself. Why doesn’t she know that she can’t go on? Why don’t her family tell her even if nobody else will?
I can hardly bear to watch now.

Thatsasmashingblouseyouvegoton · 17/10/2022 18:41

The fact is the MPs didnt want Truss to win. She is not popular and only got cabinet posts because she flipped flopped to being a bat shit brexshitter.

Sunak - whatever you think of him - was right... her policies have trashed the economy.

She is a liability.

Blossomtoes · 17/10/2022 18:42

woff45 · 17/10/2022 18:40

I wonder if her husband has said “Look, love, time to go. This is doing you no good”. If he hasn’t, he should.

I'm not defending the woman, she's awful, but my god this post is dripping with misogyny. Quickly get her man to sort her out!

Her mum then or her sibling. Just someone who cares about her ffs.

Thatsasmashingblouseyouvegoton · 17/10/2022 18:43

woff45 · 17/10/2022 18:40

I wonder if her husband has said “Look, love, time to go. This is doing you no good”. If he hasn’t, he should.

I'm not defending the woman, she's awful, but my god this post is dripping with misogyny. Quickly get her man to sort her out!

Oh ffs.

Stop virtue signalling!

Perhaps the people who love her - her husband and daughters - don't want her to risk her health for a job.

Dennis advised Thatcher to leave iirc?

CountryMouse22 · 17/10/2022 18:46

I can't understand how she got the job in the first place.

woff45 · 17/10/2022 18:47

@Thatsasmashingblouseyouvegoton virtue signalling 🙄 no just calling out sexist comments, woman doesn't do well in government so we must question her mental health, she's sooooooo fragile, when have you ever worried about the mental state of a male politician and wonder if his family are checking in. It's sexist.

Thatsasmashingblouseyouvegoton · 17/10/2022 18:50

woff45 · 17/10/2022 18:47

@Thatsasmashingblouseyouvegoton virtue signalling 🙄 no just calling out sexist comments, woman doesn't do well in government so we must question her mental health, she's sooooooo fragile, when have you ever worried about the mental state of a male politician and wonder if his family are checking in. It's sexist.

Boris Johnson, recently......

It's clear that he was neurologically compromised after his covid infection...

The CBI speech? Utter disarray at the despatch box?

Lifeomars · 17/10/2022 18:50

the80sweregreat · 17/10/2022 18:16

She might have gone to see the Doctor
The stress must be enormous, but it's not fair on any of us or her of it's causing all this speculation and we have a de facto PM in J Hunt without anyone knowing anything

She looked heavily medicated to me, lots of blinking, blank and distant expression on her face, I usually have empathy for most people when they are in an awful mess but she knew what she was taking on and on some deep level she must have known that she simply does not have the intellect, vision and capabilities to lead a country at any time, let alone at this crisis we are facing, much of it self created by 12 years of the Tories

Thatsasmashingblouseyouvegoton · 17/10/2022 18:51

CountryMouse22 · 17/10/2022 18:46

I can't understand how she got the job in the first place.

Beca8se,the wrote, male over 75s that male up most of the tory party members won't vote for non white person.

It's really very simple.

Most of them didn't even attend the hustings.

Blossomtoes · 17/10/2022 18:51

no just calling out sexist comments

No, you’re not. You’re most definitely virtue signalling - and nor even very well.

Thatsasmashingblouseyouvegoton · 17/10/2022 18:51

Thatsasmashingblouseyouvegoton · 17/10/2022 18:51

Beca8se,the wrote, male over 75s that male up most of the tory party members won't vote for non white person.

It's really very simple.

Most of them didn't even attend the hustings.

white

Thatsasmashingblouseyouvegoton · 17/10/2022 18:52

Lifeomars · 17/10/2022 18:50

She looked heavily medicated to me, lots of blinking, blank and distant expression on her face, I usually have empathy for most people when they are in an awful mess but she knew what she was taking on and on some deep level she must have known that she simply does not have the intellect, vision and capabilities to lead a country at any time, let alone at this crisis we are facing, much of it self created by 12 years of the Tories

My guess is propranolol or diazepam for stress

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