Meet the Other Phone. Flexible and made to last.

Meet the Other Phone.
Flexible and made to last.

Buy now

Please or to access all these features

AIBU?

Share your dilemmas and get honest opinions from other Mumsnetters.

To think sending your child to nursery, ill is selfish

273 replies

Anon778833 · 16/10/2022 19:29

If my toddler is ill, I do not send her into nursery - it’s as simple as that. If I have to not go into work, that’s just how it is.

There has been an outbreak of slapped cheek at my daughter’s nursery which she caught and now I also have caught too. And it’s a really horrible virus. My poor dd hasn’t eaten for nearly a week. And she is STILL spiking temperature.

Nursery sent out a message to say that thanks to people bringing ill children to nursery, they now have staff shortages. And that people must not bring ill kids to nursery.

I thought this was common sense.

OP posts:
katmarie · 16/10/2022 20:30

tillytown · 16/10/2022 20:29

Instead of blaming parents for taking sick children to nursery/school, why do people never blame employers for not being flexible with sick days?
If you want change, hold the right people accountable and stop punching down.

Totally agree with this.

WildFlowerBees · 16/10/2022 20:31

I know someone who sent their child to nursery with covid even though she had passed it on to her sibling and parents.

Elsamit · 16/10/2022 20:33

As with a lot of viruses, a couple of days at home resting will see a massive improvement in the child's health. Forcing them to go into school/ nursery when they feel so ill will only prolong the recovery. Why would anyone want this for their child? As previous posts have stated, if the child has a contagious illness and/or a temperature then they will be sent home anyway so really nothing to be gained by the parent who sends them in.

Googlecanthelpme · 16/10/2022 20:34

Mysterian · 16/10/2022 20:14

I'm a nursery worker. I live with my 80 year old Mother who has little immune system. Luckily when I caught it I didn't pass it on. I have had Long Covid for coming up to 2 years now. I used to go running, sight-seeing, long walks in the country, go to parties. That's all stopped. I'm back to working 5 hours per day now before I go home and nap/rest until bedtime at 9.
Do you give the tiniest shit about the staff? Their families? The children? I wonder if you've killed anybody? Not directly I'm probably sure, but you give it to somebody who gives it to somebody else, whose children now have no Mother.
'Probably won't happen'. Like drink driving probably won't kill anybody...

Yes but also you can catch covid in Tesco.
You are just as at risk of catching covid in the post office, supermarket, chip shop, cinema as you are at work.
If the child is so ill they cannot function then of course they shouldn’t be at nursery, if they have a runny nose but otherwise absolutely fine (as mine were with covid) then they are under no legal obligation to keep them at home.
You can argue the moral stance if you want but then you can argue the moral stance with many things in life.

gogohmm · 16/10/2022 20:37

Unfortunately some people do not have the luxury of taking time off, it's go to work or no pay, possibly be fired. It's really tough.

I didn't work when mine were small, something that made it easier to keep them home.

I helped friends out many times with emergency childcare but not everyone has a support system

Navigatingnewwaters · 16/10/2022 20:37

Slapped cheek can kill unborn babies

Snugglemonkey · 16/10/2022 20:38

TescoCustomerService · 16/10/2022 19:38

I sent my son to nursery with COVID, some of us simply can't have the time off work and would rather send them to nursery/school than get fired for absence. My workplace ended their policy to not fire staff for family emergency absence, so if anyone in my household is unwell yet can still attend nursery/school/work, they will.

That really is disgusting.

underneaththeash · 16/10/2022 20:40

Ohwellwhateverthen · 16/10/2022 19:32

You're very lucky that you can afford to take the day off whenever your child is sick. That's a privilege not many people I know have these days.

Unfortunately it’s arrogant idiots like this who think that they are more important than everyone else who propagate it….
Soz mate - can’t afford it (like) …
you factor in sick days when you have kids.

TrainspottingWelsh · 16/10/2022 20:41

I think if you’ve made it known to all the other parents you’re willing to cover any loss of income for those that don’t have the privilege of taking the day off without losing money they can’t afford, and yet sahps/ those with other options are still sending ill children in then it’s fair to call them selfish.
If you’re just suggesting other people should suffer financial hardship then I’d say you’re the one being selfish.

thelastgreatdynasty · 16/10/2022 20:42

1 parent family here. I've always taken time off if my children have been poorly. Everyone has a legal right to Dependancy days. I've just taken the hit financially. I couldn't bare the idea of them being at nursery/school poorly and I wouldn't want to spread anything to others.

loulouljh · 16/10/2022 20:43

Some people have a thing called work...makes it somewhat difficult.

Glitteratitar · 16/10/2022 20:43

My son was left seriously unwell in hospital from a simple virus he picked up from another child at nursery. It has left long term damage and every time he gets a similar virus, he is back in hospital. Selfish parents have caused untold damage to my child. So I am fully with you OP.

SantaOnFanta · 16/10/2022 20:43

I know a mum putting on FB over the weekend her son had D&V and couldn't believe it he was at school on Monday!!!

Anon778833 · 16/10/2022 20:44

Googlecanthelpme · 16/10/2022 20:34

Yes but also you can catch covid in Tesco.
You are just as at risk of catching covid in the post office, supermarket, chip shop, cinema as you are at work.
If the child is so ill they cannot function then of course they shouldn’t be at nursery, if they have a runny nose but otherwise absolutely fine (as mine were with covid) then they are under no legal obligation to keep them at home.
You can argue the moral stance if you want but then you can argue the moral stance with many things in life.

That’s such a rubbish argument. Covid is passed on through prolonged contact with people. You are much less likely to catch it from someone you walk past at Tesco. And knowingly spreading Covid around is shit behaviour. I’m not talking about people who don’t know they have it.

I’m amazed at the number of people who apparently don’t accept that your child is your responsibility(!)

Childcare provisions have a contract you sign which says they reserve the right to send sick children home.

OP posts:
Waitingfordecember · 16/10/2022 20:45

I understand it’s annoying (and I do feel sorry for children when they are clearly unwell at nursery) but some parents are in difficult situations.

I keep my LO home if he is poorly because I can. If not sending him in meant potentially losing my job/house/not being able to put food on the table, I’m sure I’d make a different choice.

MummaTrinee · 16/10/2022 20:45

underneaththeash · 16/10/2022 20:40

Unfortunately it’s arrogant idiots like this who think that they are more important than everyone else who propagate it….
Soz mate - can’t afford it (like) …
you factor in sick days when you have kids.

No you don't.

When weighing up having a child or not, sick days doesn't make it to the list. Be serious.

Also people's situations change, their jobs change and with that policies they have to accept.

Anon778833 · 16/10/2022 20:46

loulouljh · 16/10/2022 20:43

Some people have a thing called work...makes it somewhat difficult.

So you are saying that your child isn’t your responsibility? Do you ask social services to step in? 🤯

OP posts:
Headabovetheparakeet · 16/10/2022 20:46

I think your anger might be better directed at the govt - if parents had better workplace protections for taking time off to look after an ill child then I'm sure a lot of them would stop doing it.

Dumbledormer · 16/10/2022 20:46

I’m with you OP. My DS has been so poorly with various illnesses including two hospital trips since starting preschool in September. He’s been off poorly more times than he’s actually been in. I understand parents can’t easily take days off or can’t afford to take days unpaid but it gets very difficult to muster up sympathy when my boy is poorly, sobbing and utterly exhausted. At 3am this morning I was wishing for (not quite pain and suffering but) a seriously shitty week for those selfish fucker parents that continue to send their ill kids in.

Mariellama · 16/10/2022 20:46

@TescoCustomerService time to find a new workplace I think! There are workplaces and employers that are more sympathetic towards employees who are parents.

The solution is to lobby our politicians to introduce legislation to protect working parents and force all employers to allow leave for family emergencies. It can't be right that in 2022 working mothers are scared of being fired for looking after ill children at home.

When DD started nursery she caught every bug going and consequently I stayed at home with her probably at least once a month. Fortunately I have a good professional job and a fabulous boss. DH is also an employer and he wouldn't bat an eyelid if one of his staff had to take time off to look after a child.

Anon778833 · 16/10/2022 20:48

Headabovetheparakeet · 16/10/2022 20:46

I think your anger might be better directed at the govt - if parents had better workplace protections for taking time off to look after an ill child then I'm sure a lot of them would stop doing it.

No. I’m not going to be angry at a government who the entitled people on this thread probably voted in! I didn’t vote for the Tories and I didn’t vote for Brexit. You reap what you sow.

OP posts:
tiggergoesbounce · 16/10/2022 20:50

I agree, its a parents responsibility to ensure they have a plan to take care of their child when sick, not a nurseries responsibility to take them in.

Ultimately though the problem is our workers rights are not great and people are scared for their jobs if they need the day off. Its awful the people cant afford to take time off when their kids are ill. This needs changing

FairytaleofNewHampshire · 16/10/2022 20:51

@Navigatingnewwaters
I had at stillbirth at twenty-four weeks due to my DC catching slapface from school.

Navigatingnewwaters · 16/10/2022 20:52

FairytaleofNewHampshire · 16/10/2022 20:51

@Navigatingnewwaters
I had at stillbirth at twenty-four weeks due to my DC catching slapface from school.

So sorry to hear that, this thread must be incredibly distressing for you ❤️

AutumnScream · 16/10/2022 20:52

underneaththeash · 16/10/2022 20:40

Unfortunately it’s arrogant idiots like this who think that they are more important than everyone else who propagate it….
Soz mate - can’t afford it (like) …
you factor in sick days when you have kids.

I decided to get pregnant when i had a good paying job after dp was off work sick after a stroke. Then they found out i was pregnant and they sacked me. I now work a shitty zero hour contract where i get called on random days and punished if i dont go as they give the next upcoming days to younger people there.
Believe me you dont factor sick days into the decision to have a child as you cant plan the future.

I hate sending dss to school when he isnt 100% but the credit cards and loans i have been using to pay the bills and rent the last two months need paying back.

If he is really sick like d and v then i have to suck up missing my days pay £72 but if he has a cold or just looks miserable he goes in.

We should be angry that employers can behave that way rather than angry at people like me who could quite literally lose my rented home one week to the next.