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Husband drove child at 120mph

231 replies

WeevilKnievel · 16/10/2022 09:00

Am I right to be upset? DS (10) came home last night all excited because daddy had driven him at 120mph on the (70) dual carriageway.
I'm furious, apart from risking our child's life and everyone else's. He's setting a stupid example for in a few years and DS learns to drive.
H thinks this is reasonable as he's a good driver ( better than anyone else of course) - his words

OP posts:
mumofninetofive · 16/10/2022 12:51

Drinking at 120mph no matter how good you are if the car malfunctions , an animal wanders on the highway, a piece of debris on the road, the car and it's passengers is not designed to survive at these speeds and all of the above do not have time to react.

The idiot and your child would be dead, if any thing happens to the vehicle at that speed. This is the difference between 70mph crash and 120mph. It only takes a hundreds of a second and no matter how good driver you are there is no safe stopping distance at this speed or no good outcome if things go wrong.

His car would literally have to be constructed with carbon fibre and designed like a racing car to survive at this speed road cars are not.

Createausernamehere · 16/10/2022 12:54

ExtraOnions · 16/10/2022 11:00

Let’s hope he gets caught, and banned, before he kills someone.
i live on a long straight stretch of road, and can easily bring 4 fatalities to mind, caused by speeding, and the speed rendering the drivers unable to react quickly enough.
I remember one where he flew off the road, through a metal fence, and died on the embankment leading down to the local supermarket - there was wreckage spread across the carpark. I remember thinking “dead, in a supermarket car park, because you wanted to drive at 80 on a 30 road “.
I have a friend who is a fireman.. he’s currently receiving psychological help, after attending a 100mph+ crash on a local road. This notion that you “die” in some sort of peaceful way, at that speed, just isn’t true. This driver was in pieces along the roadway.
Now OP, think if your child, and now try to tell me you are going to allow him to drive your child …

I hate this sort of road user

All this
In fact this thread has distressed me more than any other I’ve read for a while

I wish I knew who he was as I would find some way to capture the evidence and get him banned

He is being reckless with the life of your child and other road users due to how own arrogance and need to swing his balls

if you don’t act then you are no better

TheLassWiADelicateAir · 16/10/2022 12:56

WeevilKnievel · 16/10/2022 09:10

Unfortunately, he speeds regularly, ( generally not to this degree) but not a completely isolated incident and I'm sure was doing the whole let's see how fast we can go. But what a stupid stupid thing to do with an impressionable child. He's in his 50's fgs. Obviously never going to grow up and stop being so arrogant. Just not sure how to stop it happening again..

What a stupid thing to do full stop.

SarahR2022 · 16/10/2022 12:59

Jesus....remind me to never express an opinion again....just trying to give a little balance to some of the other somewhat OTT responses....sorry if that makes you feel sick in your mouth (whatever) but really....just think about what youre actually saying for gods sake....is it really something youd call social services over....it isnt is it.....

oviraptor21 · 16/10/2022 13:04

Actually it could be.
The welfare of the child is at risk.

SeemsSoUnfair · 16/10/2022 13:07

WeevilKnievel · 16/10/2022 11:06

His only response to me last night whilst I was hitting the roof over this was " you drive then" which is usually the response I get when I criticise his driving, I will drive the kids but it's such a massive cop out.

This is dangerous driving at extreme speeds, actively choosing to put your child's life in immediate danger for kicks.

Dickheads only get cop outs if you let them.

He says it because he thinks he can do what he wants and while you may make a bit of noise you will calm down and won't do anything significant about it. Don't say there is nothing you can do to protect your dc, there absolutely is.

Shade17 · 16/10/2022 13:09

Meh. I remember my dad hitting the 155mph limiter when I was a kid and my stepdad hitting 135mph in an unmarked police car whilst taking me for a joyride. My DD has been 180mph as a passenger in Germany and has done numerous laps of the ‘ring with me.

DelorisVC · 16/10/2022 13:12

SarahR2022 · 16/10/2022 12:59

Jesus....remind me to never express an opinion again....just trying to give a little balance to some of the other somewhat OTT responses....sorry if that makes you feel sick in your mouth (whatever) but really....just think about what youre actually saying for gods sake....is it really something youd call social services over....it isnt is it.....

People just pointed out that your opinion and posts are fucking stupid. If that stops you saying stupid shit on the internet / expressing your opinion then that's only a good thing.
It's not a balanced opinion,it's thick as fuck.

monsteramunch · 16/10/2022 13:16

Shade17 · 16/10/2022 13:09

Meh. I remember my dad hitting the 155mph limiter when I was a kid and my stepdad hitting 135mph in an unmarked police car whilst taking me for a joyride. My DD has been 180mph as a passenger in Germany and has done numerous laps of the ‘ring with me.

I take it you've never had anyone you cared about die or be seriously injured in a car accident due to someone else speeding?

All the people you've just mentioned chose to be in those situations.

They could have killed other drivers easily, with anything from an animal running into the road, another driver doing something expected etc etc.

Nice to be 'meh' about people you know putting other people at risk and not giving a shit.

Fuck the rest of us, including those who have lost people or suffered life changing injuries due to selfish pricks who make the choice to put other people at risk.

The fact your stepdad did it when it sounds like he was in the police is extra shitty as many of my family are in the police and have had to attend and manage the aftermath of people having crashes at those speeds. And it is unbelievably traumatic.

SarahR2022 · 16/10/2022 13:17

You lot must have had really sheltered lives thats all I can say....I did make it clear I wasnt condoning it....but really....social services? the police? Really? Get a grip

WisherWood · 16/10/2022 13:17

He's also always said he's likely the best driver on the road, and he's objectively right.

According to who? Drivers are unable to rate their own driving ability and the majority have an inflated idea of how good they are. See this for example www.psychologicalscience.org/news/motr/when-it-comes-to-driving-most-people-think-their-skills-are-above-average.html

And although driving whilst you're inattentive is also a problem, basic physics means that being inattentive at 30mph won't cause the problems that occur at 120 mph. You need to consider our ability to see at that speed - look up information on saccadic masking. Also look up the relationship between velocity and force - travelling at four times the speed causes far more than four times the force.

OP, show your H information about this crash. I'm sure the driver thought he was brilliant too. www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/home-news/woman-survived-fatal-range-rover-a40-crash-b2152729.html

mumofninetofive · 16/10/2022 13:17

I'll leave this here for those that think a car crashing at over 100mph is survivable. Cars at this speed are not designed or made of materials to survive these speeds that's a fact.

Againstmachine · 16/10/2022 13:18

Meh. I remember my dad hitting the 155mph limiter when I was a kid and my stepdad hitting 135mph in an unmarked police car whilst taking me for a joyride.

Well your mum certainly had a taste for a certain kind of idiotic man.

AssignedSlytherinAtBirth · 16/10/2022 13:21

Yep. Makes you feel totally sick and angry. DD, when she was about 16, was collected along with her friend by the friend's dad from the next town. When she came home she said she'd been sitting behind him and could see the speedo going at 120 on the A road, but he said it was OK as - quote - "the car's an automatic". I can't tell you how angry I was.
The best thing is for your DH to get caught and sent on a speed awareness course. They have some pretty hard-hitting statistics. And to get his thrills on a racetrack. What a dick.

monsteramunch · 16/10/2022 13:24

SarahR2022 · 16/10/2022 13:17

You lot must have had really sheltered lives thats all I can say....I did make it clear I wasnt condoning it....but really....social services? the police? Really? Get a grip

Are you feeling ok about ignoring those of us who have shared losing loved ones due to other drivers doing this? Those of us who have life changing injuries due to other drivers doing this?

There seems to be an empathy chip missing. Even if you disagree and think driving at those speeds is acceptable, ignoring the contributions of people who have explained why they think it's not acceptable and saying they have had 'sheltered lives' is so dismissive and rude.

We haven't had sheltered lives. If you don't know anyone who has died or had their life changed injury wise by a speeding or otherwise dangerous driver, you're speaking on the subject from the place of a 'sheltered' existence when it comes to speeding. You happen to know people who have been lucky. Lucky you.

CrustyFlake · 16/10/2022 13:25

Does he really not understand that purposefully driving at 120mph automatically makes him a very bad driver? I'm sorry OP but he sounds like an absolute moron. Surely you can do better?

Florenz · 16/10/2022 13:25

AssignedSlytherinAtBirth · 16/10/2022 13:21

Yep. Makes you feel totally sick and angry. DD, when she was about 16, was collected along with her friend by the friend's dad from the next town. When she came home she said she'd been sitting behind him and could see the speedo going at 120 on the A road, but he said it was OK as - quote - "the car's an automatic". I can't tell you how angry I was.
The best thing is for your DH to get caught and sent on a speed awareness course. They have some pretty hard-hitting statistics. And to get his thrills on a racetrack. What a dick.

If he'd have got caught driving 120mph he wouldn't be sent on a speed awareness course, he'd be getting banned from driving for several years. And possibly sent to prison.

Shade17 · 16/10/2022 13:34

The fact your stepdad did it when it sounds like he was in the police is extra shitty as many of my family are in the police and have had to attend and manage the aftermath of people having crashes at those speeds. And it is unbelievably traumatic.

Yes, following a 30 year career as motorcyclist/motorway/traffic cop he was dealing with that on a regular basis. Still didn’t stop him being an extremely quick driver though. In fact the best driver I’ve ever been in a car on the road with and a great instructor, the crème de la crème of police drivers.

catgirl1976 · 16/10/2022 13:37

Dh drove me at 110. Despite me pleading with him to slow down.

I have not got into a car with him since.

If he had done it with DS in the car I would have left him.

monsteramunch · 16/10/2022 13:38

Shade17 · 16/10/2022 13:34

The fact your stepdad did it when it sounds like he was in the police is extra shitty as many of my family are in the police and have had to attend and manage the aftermath of people having crashes at those speeds. And it is unbelievably traumatic.

Yes, following a 30 year career as motorcyclist/motorway/traffic cop he was dealing with that on a regular basis. Still didn’t stop him being an extremely quick driver though. In fact the best driver I’ve ever been in a car on the road with and a great instructor, the crème de la crème of police drivers.

Most of the police in my family are traffic too. Also excellent drivers. At high speeds. When necessary for work.

Not doing 130+ mph with a kid in the car in an unmarked car on a joyride. Putting him, you and everyone else on the roads in danger.

If someone irresponsible enough to do that is the best driver you've ever known then you must know a lot of shit drivers.

mumofninetofive · 16/10/2022 13:42

Shade17 · 16/10/2022 13:34

The fact your stepdad did it when it sounds like he was in the police is extra shitty as many of my family are in the police and have had to attend and manage the aftermath of people having crashes at those speeds. And it is unbelievably traumatic.

Yes, following a 30 year career as motorcyclist/motorway/traffic cop he was dealing with that on a regular basis. Still didn’t stop him being an extremely quick driver though. In fact the best driver I’ve ever been in a car on the road with and a great instructor, the crème de la crème of police drivers.

His actions say otherwise. No matter how good a driver you are ask professional racing drivers crashes occur by things that are out of the drivers control malfunctions, unavoidable objects ect. all the time and to anyone no exceptions. Your dad was an risk taking idiot.

GrimDamnFanjo · 16/10/2022 13:59

Fuck me.
That's horrific. I'd be terrified.
What an arse.

WisherWood · 16/10/2022 14:00

Emergency services can only legally speed during the course of their duties. The rest of the time, they're governed by the same traffic laws as the rest of us. Personally, I think the best drivers would recognise that and obey the laws. You need to lead by example and part of that is showing that responsible drivers obey traffic laws, all of them, including speeding limits.

powershowerforanhour · 16/10/2022 14:18

m.youtube.com/watch?v=B2rFTbvwteo

Even if he's as amazing as he thinks he is, he can't control other people's actions and mistakes. Easier to avoid an accident at 70 than 120

FloydPepper · 16/10/2022 14:22

Tryingtokeepgoing · 16/10/2022 11:39

Correction…speed alone does not kill. The fastest modes of transport are the safest. Plane, train, motorways etc. Speed combined with lack of concentration, poor assessment of risk, human error or mechanical breakdown all can kill. Motorways are the fastest roads in the UK, and some of the safest. Not only in the UK, but the world. Far more children are injured in 20/30/40 limit areas where people who believe the mantra ‘speed kills’ think that just because they’re adhering to the speed limit they’re safe, while simultaneously chatting to friends via Bluetooth, keeping an eye on kids, glancing at WhatsApp messages and sipping a latte ;) The risk of an accident in those circumstance is far higher than a motorway accident, and the consequences can be almost as devastating. But people do it all the time.

None of which condones driving at 120mph in the UK of course, though I’m not sure it’s the crime of the century and I struggle to belief the short staffed police would do anything if you called them. In many parts of Germany that’d be fine at any time. Indeed, only last summer I drove on the autobahn for a couple of hours at a cruise controlled 200kph on my way back from Italy. I wasn’t the fastest car in the road. It was day time. The car was newish, the tyres fine. The speed didn’t kill me ;)

Don’t you be coming in here with your facts and balance. It’s all about speed.

no 120 isn’t clever in the uk. It’s illegal and will get you into trouble. That doess as mr mean it’s inherently more dangerous than 30 in the wrong situation. It’s about appropriate speed and it’s believable that 120 in a good car on a clear wide dual carriageway in good conditions is safer than 30 outside a school at 3.30pm.

not condoning it. Just saying that a blind repetition of “speed is bad” does nothing for road safety or driving standards.