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Not to make BF this food anymore - Bacon

217 replies

olympicsrock · 16/10/2022 03:05

My best friend loves to eat bacon sandwiches as do i and my family. The issue is that she always calls them ‘bacon butties’ and says this with great relish. “Ooh bacon butty!” She calls other sandwiches “sandwiches”.
I was brought up being told that people who said Butty rather than sandwich were incredibly common. Whenever she says this , it really irritates me. I haven’t said anything.
Am in being unreasonable just to not serve this when she comes over to minimise the irritation . Or do I tell her how much this bothers me and serve her something she loves.
Do others hate this too?

DOI grumpy old woman with Perimenopausal grump.
As a side Issue , it’s tomato ketchup not tomato sauce!

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Sallyh87 · 16/10/2022 12:30

I kind of understand this @olympicsrock. I don’t have an issue with butty but I hate words ‘spud’ and ‘arse’. I am Irish and my family seem to use them constantly, it’s like nails on a blackboard!

Anyway, in answer to your question, no you shouldn’t tell her because it’s unfortunately ridiculous!

Mentalpiece · 16/10/2022 12:36

Whether the filling is bacon, cheese or tuna salad, it's a sarnie in my house.
Unless it's jam, then it's a jam Sam.
Bacon should be fried in a blob of lard until the correct level of crispiness is reached, then moved to the side of the pan to enable the bread to mop the fat, then the sarnie is put together.
That is the law, and if it isn't, it should be.

ThisIsntDanicaBritannica · 16/10/2022 12:39

Bacon butty in our house, and I'm descended from royalty.
You've probably hit the nail on the head with menopausal grump, I hope you feel better soon.

olympicsrock · 16/10/2022 12:47

@TheMoops I’m a northerner
@BadGranny love your suggestion - marmalade and brown bread could be delicious

@youagainomg - I’m a pretty good friend actually , kind loyal generous so I won’t take your comments to heart

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olympicsrock · 16/10/2022 12:48

ThisIsntDanicaBritannica · 16/10/2022 12:39

Bacon butty in our house, and I'm descended from royalty.
You've probably hit the nail on the head with menopausal grump, I hope you feel better soon.

Thanks - the grump is a very real difficult thing

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RedDwarfGarbagePod · 16/10/2022 12:49

TheMoops · 16/10/2022 11:27

I ressured to hear there are at least a couple of my tribe on here who understand the rip your own head off level of irritation with the word “butty”.
@RedDwarfGarbagePod yup I feel the same way about brew too .

I take it you don't spend much time up north?
It's butty and brew in pretty much every household I know.

Are you one of those that confuses regional dialect with being common??

I'm from the north - Manchester, to be precise. I just really hate those words. I also hate 'cuppa'. I'm not fond of a lot of food abbreviations - see also 'veggies' (for vegetables, not vegetarians) and 'roasties', which particularly grinds my gears.

I do quite like 'snags' for sausages, though.

JadeSeahorse · 16/10/2022 12:53

Well definitely not a butty here as we don't butter the bread. It's nicely crisp smoked bacon or well grilled sausage on dry bread. No sauce for me either!

Buttered bread with bacon or sausage would seriously make me baulk. It was always dry bread when I was growing up in the 50's/60's but I seem very much in the minority these days.

Hbh17 · 16/10/2022 12:58

This is hilarious! I don't mind a bacon butty myself, but OP is spot on about tomato ketchup - of course. Tomato sauce is something you serve with a bowl of pasta.
And red sauce is what 3 year olds put on their fish fingers!

Inmyhandbag · 16/10/2022 12:58

smoked bacon or pleasant bacon

🤣

IrisVersicolor · 16/10/2022 12:58

It’s very much a lark among posh peeps to use ‘common’ words, so butty would definitely roll, mugged off, minger, crack on etc. So on that front you’re BU.

My menopausal grump focuses on the use of ‘sat’ for ‘sitting’ and ‘myself’ for ‘I’ - ‘my partner and myself’. So I would withhold bacon butties for those transgressions.

Fifthtimelucky · 16/10/2022 13:12

Bacon sandwich here.

Thick green back bacon from the butchers. Fried. No butter on bread. No sauce. Decent bread preferred but I don't often buy it because when I do I eat too much, so it's often sliced bread

I use 'butty' only for chips.

FurryDandelionSeekingMissile · 16/10/2022 13:25

IrisVersicolor · 16/10/2022 12:58

It’s very much a lark among posh peeps to use ‘common’ words, so butty would definitely roll, mugged off, minger, crack on etc. So on that front you’re BU.

My menopausal grump focuses on the use of ‘sat’ for ‘sitting’ and ‘myself’ for ‘I’ - ‘my partner and myself’. So I would withhold bacon butties for those transgressions.

Yeah, but that's one of those things where you have to be unmistakably doing it by choice.

Like ten or fifteen years ago, being posh enough that you could shop in Lidl and gush about the surprising acceptability of their jamon iberico, without ever having to worry that people might think you shop there because you can't afford Sainsbury's.

TheMoops · 16/10/2022 13:30

I'm from the north - Manchester, to be precise. I just really hate those words. I also hate 'cuppa'. I'm not fond of a lot of food abbreviations - see also 'veggies' (for vegetables, not vegetarians) and 'roasties', which particularly grinds my gears.

It's fine to not like particular words but to declare them common is ridiculous and judgemental- which is what the OP is doing.

I do quite like 'snags' for sausages, though.

They're snorkers in our house.

TheMoops · 16/10/2022 13:32

I’m a northerner

And you only know one person who uses the word 'butty'?

Herejustforthisone · 16/10/2022 13:36

FurryDandelionSeekingMissile · 16/10/2022 03:27

It's completely immaterial.

The really important questions are:

  • what cut of bacon you use: medallions, back or streaky
  • whether you use smoked bacon or pleasant bacon
  • whether you're one of those freaks who toasts the bread first
  • whether you butter the bread or just leave it dry like some kind of ascetic
  • whether you cook the bacon pink and flabby with fat flobbing around, hard and shattering into mouth-stabbing pieces, or the correct, middle level of cookedness

Thick, white bread (hand cut, not pappy white sliced)

Room-softened salted butter.

Two slices of unsmoked back (crispy fat, malleability on medallion part) and two slices of crispy (but still flexible) smoked streaky.

Tomato ketchup.

Strong but not stewed cup of tea.

olympicsrock · 16/10/2022 14:00

TheMoops · 16/10/2022 13:32

I’m a northerner

And you only know one person who uses the word 'butty'?

Now live in the south and have done for 20 years

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KatherineJaneway · 16/10/2022 14:18

dreamland5 · 16/10/2022 04:24

I don't think I've ever heard anyone say 'bacon sandwich' before though?
Doesn't everyone say 'bacon butty'???

Was always a bacon sandwich in our house (working class). Never heard of 'butty' until I was much older.

Meatshake · 16/10/2022 14:20

HighlandPony · 16/10/2022 03:11

Here it’s red sauce. As opposed to broon sauce. Its a piece not a sandwich and it’s breckie dinner and tea. You’d be the mental one in my area. Do you see how mad it is to not make things because of what someone calls it?

Piece?! Never heard of that one!

Wait would that make a fishfinger sandwich a codpiece??

Livpool · 16/10/2022 15:00

What is wrong with 'butty'?! I would only say it for bacon, sausage, crisps or chips though. No idea why!

The word 'ketchup' makes me cringe.

YABU

Although so is your BF - bacon butty should only ever be white bread or barm and then with brown sauce or lots of butter. Anything else is sacrilege

liveforsummer · 16/10/2022 15:04

Common! Christ 😆 yes YABU. It's regional surely. Here it's a bacon roll/sandwich but it's definitely sauce. I

liveforsummer · 16/10/2022 15:09

To add we use the word butty here but only for chips in a roll

GETTINGLIKEMYMOTHER · 16/10/2022 15:18

A butty story…..
Friends of ours once stayed at a smart hotel in Paris with their 2 young boys, aged maybe 8 and 10. IIRC it was the George V hotel, which is extremely smart, or was then anyway.
Parents went out for the evening, leaving the boys, and telling them they could order anything they liked from room service.
‘What, anything??’
‘Yes, anything you like.’

In the morning they asked what the boys had had to eat.
They had ordered the best thing they could think of - not that it was on the room service menu - bacon butties!! (Said as such, not ‘sandwiches’, let alone anything in French.)
And the hotel staff had known exactly what they wanted - and had provided it.
Mark of an excellent hotel, IMO!

TheMoops · 16/10/2022 15:50

Now live in the south and have done for 20 years

And??

FurryDandelionSeekingMissile · 16/10/2022 15:54

TheMoops · 16/10/2022 15:50

Now live in the south and have done for 20 years

And??

Presumably meaning that most of the people OP knows now are southerners, so a PP's assumption that as a northerner she'd know lots of people who say butty might not apply.

Though I'm pretty sure southerners are partial to the odd butty or two.

TheMoops · 16/10/2022 16:05

Presumably meaning that most of the people OP knows now are southerners, so a PP's assumption that as a northerner she'd know lots of people who say butty might not apply.

I guess I was thinking that if the OP has only lived down south for 20 years presumably there has been a significant amount of time living up north so would have known that butty and brew were used and that it's generally regional rather than class based.

Anyway, it's a really odd thing to be annoyed at a friend for!