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Is there no way to make this country love the Tories again?

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User135644 · 15/10/2022 20:16

In 2019 it looked like it was going to be the Tory decade (2020s) and Boris would have at least 10 years to run the country, Tory mania was at its peak. It's astonishing how much 3 years have changed the whole countries unquestioning love of the Conservative Party.

Is it over? Can they win back the hearts of the public? If so, how? Surely Truss would have to go.

AIBU - yes the country we'll doff our caps and tug our forelocks again once we're in the voting booth

AINBO - they're fucked

OP posts:
Charlize43 · 15/10/2022 23:04

Goodgriefisitginfizzoclock · 15/10/2022 20:26

Liz is that you?

😂

PrinnyPree · 15/10/2022 23:18

They're short term fucked, Labour will most likely get in, out of being the default alternative with FPTP stitching up any real functioning democracy in this country. However there's alot of unfucking to be done and people have short term memories so they'll be back within a term or two.

Our media is quite right wing (economically at least) and anything approaching renationalisation or redistribution of wealth (living NMW, rent caps, tax on the extremely wealthy etc) to re-right the wrongs will have the entirety of the likes of Murdoch et al baying for blood.

Quite frankly we need a very radical next government who will not only take care of the working class but take climate change extremely seriously, solar panels on every roof, proper insulation, proper public transport investment which is both cheap and reliable etc. I worry current Labour haven't got the stones as they're frightened of appearing Left wing.

DaSilvaP · 15/10/2022 23:27

Mammyloveswine · 15/10/2022 22:45

It's been the tories since 2010! They've had their fucking decade and somehow stayed in power despite being an absolute shit show!

Of course.
Somehow ... all they had to do was to tell to whoever wanted to believe it that the Moon is made of cheese, and if you vote Tory you'll get a slice of it.

hillyholman · 15/10/2022 23:31

So this

Florenz · 15/10/2022 23:42

They'll rebound, re-invent themselves, they always do. Labour will win the next election and probably the one after that too. The next Conservative Leader to win a general election likely will be someone who isn't even an MP at the moment, maybe someone still at University. Labour will get in, govern well for a few years, then the nutters on the fringes of the party will get more power, people will get worried and the Tories will sell themselves as the safe and reliable party and win the election. It's the natural political cycle in this country.

j712adrian · 15/10/2022 23:44

Most of their core electorate are dying out.

I don't think the next generations will put up with the elitism.

BMW6 · 15/10/2022 23:57

j712adrian · 15/10/2022 23:44

Most of their core electorate are dying out.

I don't think the next generations will put up with the elitism.

LOL people have been saying that for as long as I can remember.............

You forget that as people age they tend to become more conservative . 🙄

hellesbells · 16/10/2022 00:24

BitterAndOnlySlightlyTwisted · 15/10/2022 20:33

COVID, world recession and consequent cost of living crisis are not problems solely to be laid at the door of our current government. Their current nonsense doesn’t necessarily inspire confidence. As a life-long Labour voter I’m not convinced they could make a better fist of the economy than the Conservatives are, given their history of truly fucking things up in the past. “There’s no money left” ring a bell at all? Rock and a hard place

You aren't a life long labour voter, no money left was a joke and historically it's the conservatives who fuck up the economy each and every time, look it up

veganmayo · 16/10/2022 00:30

😂😂

Snoozer11 · 16/10/2022 01:53

There was never "an unquestioning love of the Conservative Party".

TooHotToRamble · 16/10/2022 03:18

"It's astonishing how much 3 years have changed the whole countries unquestioning love of the Conservative Party"

Ummmmm when did this ever happen?!?!?

TooHotToRamble · 16/10/2022 03:19

Butchyrestingface · 15/10/2022 20:26

It's astonishing how much 3 years have changed the whole countries unquestioning love of the Conservative Party.

Just to clarify, you're talking about England, right, and not the whole of the UK?

I don't think it happened in England either.

sjxoxo · 16/10/2022 03:22

ChocFrog · 15/10/2022 20:23

Conservatives are supposed to conserve.

This lot just wanna burn everything down.

😂
@ChocFrog that’s absolutely not what ‘Conservative’ means in the political sense.

stillvicarinatutu · 16/10/2022 03:36

katmeouws · 15/10/2022 23:03

I would like to see an electoral pact between libs and labour just to be sure they are gone. I would prefer to vote lib dem, but I will vote labour just to be rid of our MP. One of the most cuntiest of all tories.

I'd have liked to
See that pact when Gordon brown was pm . Think that ship has sailed .

stillvicarinatutu · 16/10/2022 03:39

And why the fuck would anyone love this set of self serving bastards who can't even decide on a policy that lasts 24 bloody hours ?

Cut taxes for the high earners ? Yeah good plan .

Do a good few u turns in as many days ? Yeah sounds like they know exactly what they're doing .

Go. Away .

DorchaAndLouis · 16/10/2022 06:28

People didn't love the Tories at the last election. But enough of the electorate thought they were the "least worse" option so they won.
Everyone will carry on complaining right up until the next election. And they'll win again.

itsgettingweird · 16/10/2022 06:29

BirmaBrite · 15/10/2022 22:14

@itsgettingweird I agree as a nation we are mainly centric politically, I don't know anyone, well maybe one, who is rabidly left or right, most lean slightly left or right of the centre.

Its interesting that you thought of Johnson as centric, as an individual I am sure he might be, if he cares enough to think about it, which I doubt. His campaigning on the other hand, well I don't think you could describe it as centric ?

I agree.

I think he's quite centric in that he was a fan of levelling up. Well at least he appeared to believe in that.

However his racist comments over the years also show he has very far right tendencies with regards immigration.

I can't stand the man and will never forgive him for what he did but I think if he'd been a decent human being he'd have been very centric politically as essentially his beliefs do lie there.

But he's so hard to work out I guess it's hard to be sure.

itsgettingweird · 16/10/2022 06:33

j712adrian · 15/10/2022 23:44

Most of their core electorate are dying out.

I don't think the next generations will put up with the elitism.

Didn't people say the same re The Thatcher years?

KvotheTheBloodless · 16/10/2022 06:35

I bloody hate the Tories, and have never voted for them, but I'm really worried about what's going to happen to women's rights under Labour. They seem absolutely hell-bent on destroying the party through their ridiculous stance on trans issues that goes against the thoughts of the vast majority of the country.

verdantverdure · 16/10/2022 06:42

Tory party policy is so batshit that after 12 years of them in charge almost every area of our lives is on the brink of collapse, and almost the only people who want to be Conservative Party members are the batshit.

And they let them pick our Prime Ministers.

And Liz Truss wasn't even the worst option.

This can't go on.

verdantverdure · 16/10/2022 06:44

5 million households are going to have to find an extra £500 a month to pay their mortgage because if the Tories.

What's lovable about that?!

Pipsquiggle · 16/10/2022 07:11

Tories only care about tories and staying in power - that's it.

They only do things in 'the national interest" if it is also advantageous to them.

They have changed constituency boundary lines to their advantage, put more of their cronies in the House of Lords to get their laws passed. I am just bored of their continual self preservation at any cost.

I would like the first past the post voting system to change to be more representative of the actual votes cast.

daisychain01 · 16/10/2022 08:07

All I know is that this is a bitter blow to women in leadership.

Woman (Truss) replaces man (Johnson), makes a complete hash up, lasts 5 minutes and man (Hunt) has to be helicoptered in like superman to take command of the situation. 🤦‍♀️

daisychain01 · 16/10/2022 08:09

Tories only care about tories and staying in power - that's it

is that new news though? Surely that's the aim of any political party. I can't see Labour being any different.

MarshaBradyo · 16/10/2022 08:17

daisychain01 · 16/10/2022 08:09

Tories only care about tories and staying in power - that's it

is that new news though? Surely that's the aim of any political party. I can't see Labour being any different.

Agree. Parties only get to stay in power if people vote for them so it’s not like we don’t have a vital role in that

Also the women in power point in pp is a bit depressingly true