Will Liz Truss really last only 17 more days?

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Newspaper reports as scathing as ever, and The Times suggesting Tories are lining up Sunak and Mordaunt as a duo.

can’t stand the woman but surely she’ll hold on for a bit longer - everyone was saying Boris would go much earlier than he did. And why on earth did they vote her into power in the first place 🙄

Of all the reasons to dislike a politician, 'backstabbing' poor widdle boris isn't one of them.

Rishi is looking like a good option at this point. I was a fan of eat out to help out. Liz Truss doesn’t seem to have a basic understanding of economics.

Well it's horseshit. They ultiamtely (though not overwhelmingly) voted for Truss because they didn't like Sunak and thought she'd be the 'continuity Johnson' candidate.

They deserve a spell in opposition. Call an election and get this agony over.

One things for sure, Truss and Kwarteng have surely ruined a good career.

17 days too long I would say. She needs to go. In fact she should never have been elected in the first place. Oh well she wasnt exactly. Some democracy. A PM that not even her own MPs want. Never might the actual voters.

@Dorisbonson I was just going to say similar. If they can't keep a PM in post then we need a GE. They are not a functioning government as things stand.

It really is time to change the rules on who votes for new leaders.

The membership is very out of touch (and I say this as a one-time member) and really not up to the job of such an important decision.

The MPs wanted Rishi but were outvoted by the members' votes.

The only people who are able to really judge are MPs who work with each other.
Yes, they will have a vested interest (cronyism) but time after time the members have chosen the wrong person.

I think she ought to go. Like most ambitious MPs she has a huge ego, can't cope with being wrong, and won't listen to advice. She made the classic mistake of not keeping her enemies close.

She is a complete disaster.

"Eat out to spread covid" was one of his more stupid ideas. People were desperate to get out after the lockdowns and really didn't need incentives to go and have a meal out! The pubs/restaurants were just as busy on the days it didn't apply, as the days it did. Just spunked billions of pounds away unnecessarily and helped speed the spread of covid that Autumn!

I think they are salivating to throw a woman and a black man under a bus. Suits them entirely to scapegoat individuals to take the heat off of the party as a whole.

She won the vote because Rishi is untrustworthy.

Oh, aye. Good old Loyal Liz.

Before they’re voted out in a GE, the Tories urgently need a new means of selecting a leader - at least voted for by their MPs, not a small number of mostly old die-hards out in the shires.
At least it’s one thing the Truss era might still achieve - talk about learning the hard way, though.

Seriously? Current polling has the tories getting less seats than the SNP. The tories are 100% out at the next general election, there is no coming back from this even if they do manage to hold on till 2024.

People can clamour for an election all they want, but it's a democracy where the public vote for a n MP of a party, not a leader. In an election, the public vote for their local MP, not for a leader. This is something a lot of people either don't understand, or think they can change, when they are unhappy.

We aren't in a country where we have a dictator. The rule is 5 years in office then an election with the government holding the key to an earlier election if they want that.

'They'?

Who are 'they'?

I'm not.

I just want someone competent.

To make this about gender and race is really stooping very low indeed.

We have had two former women PMs and the cabinet has a wide range of ethnicity now.

He excluded 3 million self employed, freelancers and casual workers from furlough/SEISS support schemes and then lied about it in Parliament. His "criteria" for support (or not) were fundamentally flawed, illogical and unfair. Large numbers of self employed lost their businesses due to inadequate support, many casuals/freelancers lost their savings, some lost their homes and some lost their lives.

At the start his mantra was "we'll leave no-one behind" but after a few months it changed to "we can't help everyone".

He also extended IR35 in the midst of covid, causing damage to the IT industry, haulage industry and NHS in terms of workforce shortages.

How about his unnecessary "eat out to spread covid" initiative?

Or the billions given away in Covid loans to criminals pretending to have businesses as there was no property scrutiny as to applicants? There were reports of people being stopped leaving airports with suitcases full of cash which came from bounce back covid loans!

Many of the genuine self employed who were excluded would have been Tory party members and would have voted for Truss just to ensure Sunak didn't win the leadership contest!

Political journalists on twitter onfirming there'll be a budget u-turn today. Amongst other things it looks like the feezing of corporate tax rises will be scrapped.

Unclear how Truss can carry on really. Johnson didn't believe in anything so could blow with the wind but Truss is an idealogue, and her ideology has been thoroughly rejected.

Exactly.

And in voting for your MP, you are voting for the person who you believe will best represent your interests. And if the interests of a constiuancy are furthered best by a GE then you would hope your MP would vote for that.

They should not call an earlier GE because they want it, they should do it because their constituents want it. That's democracy.

Them not calling a GE because they fear they will be out of a job because the votes will vote for someone else: arguably, that's not democracy.

There can be election if there is a successful vote of no confidence.

And also we are in unchartered waters. We can’t be constantly replacing leaders. It’s bad for the country and the economy.

We vote on the assumption that the winning party can form a functioning government that acts in the countries best interests.

The last 4 weeks has categorically shown that the tories are no longer capable of this.

@Badbadbunny - They definitely weren’t as busy in the area that I live in actually.

The government needs to fall in some way.

This has gone beyond normal democracy and needs to go back to the country.

Why are people predicting Boris Johnson will make a comeback instead of the other contender taking over? Sunak predicted all this and he seems to have more prudence and common sense than Boris Johnson so why is he not the obvious choice?

Because who else was their to vote for?

It came down to a choice between a bunch of no hopers and a back stabber.

I think most of those who had the vote didn’t want any of them. They voted for Boris at the election and Boris was who they wanted. Ultimately the choice was Sunak or Truss and as Sunak was the one who stabbed him in the back and brought him down that meant the only other person was Truss

Liz's to do list

Friday - u turn on corporation tax.
Possibly sack Kwasi if I can find a mug to replace him.
Thinking about it, The "in Liz we Truss" ones are on sale.

Saturday
Cling on regardless. To anything and anyone.

Sunday
The TV politics programmes.
I will get my willing supporters Jacob Rees Mogg to go and tell everyone how marvellous it is.
I really don't understand why everyone else is unwell. Not everyone has covid again.

Monday
I seem to be going to see the King again.

Tuesday
I seem to have a clear day.