Will Liz Truss really last only 17 more days?

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Newspaper reports as scathing as ever, and The Times suggesting Tories are lining up Sunak and Mordaunt as a duo.

can’t stand the woman but surely she’ll hold on for a bit longer - everyone was saying Boris would go much earlier than he did. And why on earth did they vote her into power in the first place 🙄

Everything is linked back to Brexit, every PM has to prove their anti EU credentials as do ALL cabinet ministers.

The pool of smart brexitier MPs is very small, maybe even non existent.

Are you one of the people who bought an "In Liz we Truss" mug?

To be honest, if she wasn't so dangerous for the economy, I would actually feel some sympathy for her. Unfortunately however, it's hard to feel sympathy for someone I also fear. On a human level, unless she is made of teflon, this can't be an easy time for her. Mind you, she probably sleeps like a baby.

She’s already done D) hasn’t she? Caught and admitted to an extra marital affair.

Maybe a bit more Uncle Albert falling down a cellar trap door?

What a load of histrionics.

People sound like headless chickens!

The sky is falling in! Calm down dears.

Armageddon?

Given those who voted for Truss don’t have to live in UK or even be British, it’s a pretty cheap call to create enough ‘overseas members’ to anoint the neo-lib candidate of choice. Tories getting away with it because they can. A fifth CX in a year in a G7 country is beyond ludicrous. Surely there can be no stability until a GE happens.

If they put Boris on the ballot paper he'll win. Nobody is going to vote for Sunak.

Says David Cameron from his sheperd's hut!

It’s needs an election. This repetitive chaos is stupid. It’s like musical chairs.

What has changed to the key voters is that their mortgages have gone through the roof and they might have noticed who's responsible.
In a way I quite want Truss and Kwarteng to stay (and Mogg and Braverman to shoot their offensive mouths off when ever they feel like it) because they're such a gift to the opposition. But I realise the longer they stay , the more harm they can do.

What's the view like from up in the clouds?

Everything is linked back to Brexit, every PM has to prove their anti EU credentials as do ALL cabinet ministers.

Correct. Until it's no longer career suicide for a tory cabinet member to say brexit was a shit idea the party will never recover. It's the rotten foundation of all the zealotry.

As was Labour members when they elected Corbyn

Yes, the tories have become everything they pertained to despise. The economy is currently exeriencing everything they said would happen under a corbyn government.

Because many Conservative party members never wanted Boris to go. They deliberately voted Truss in knowing she’d be rubbish and not last long, so they’d get get a chance to bring Boris back.

At least that’s one theory I’ve heard!

This is actually disgusting. Almost £100k of guaranteed income per year, even if you’ve only served a short while!

I think it should be reviewed. It’s so much money and seems very excessive @TwoLeftSocksWithHoles!

But we never hear about things like this because everyone always goes on about how excessive Civil Service or general public sector pensions are (they’re not - they’re generous, but not excessive. And they’re getting less generous by the day).

They’re all untrustworthy 🤷🏻‍♀️

Yes both parties ended up in the extreme due to membership votes

This system has worked well for Torys so far (bar Blair years) but perhaps they’ll change it now. As obviously the point is to find someone who can win

I'd love to see the back of her and Kwarteng, but really don't want to see Sunak back at all. He's just as much of a snake oil salesman as Kwarteng. There must surely be someone who'd be a competent Chancellor??

Sunak lost because of the 3 million self employed/freelancers/casuals he excluded from covid support, many of whom would have been Tory members. Sunak was popular among MPs, but unpopular among the Tory party members.

Or his old pal should I say - before he stabbed him in the back

I think he did a relatively good job as Chancellor. Mind you, I didn't pay too much attention to him at the time, as we weren't in a tail-spin.

What is it about him that you dislike? Genuine question as I'm not too well briefed on much of what he's done apart from the furlough scheme.

Everything is linked back to Brexit, every PM has to prove their anti EU credentials as do ALL cabinet ministers.

Yup - a Brexit vote brought in by Cameron to see off UKIP etc but without understanding the voter landscape or bothering to do much to explain why we should remain. The Remain campaign was shite.

Cameron who over promoted Truss who has never been experienced enough to hold the jobs she has.

Cameron who then resigned and left the party with the massive headache of the consequences of the vote. May came in and failed to fully convince anyone of anything. Thus leaving the door wide open for Johnson.

Johnson has then allowed corruption and self-serving instincts to grow to unprecedented levels within the party so that less and less people even bothered to do much to cover their tracks.

That corruption has enboldened the likes that want a muppet in charge so they can clean up - and they voted in Truss.

And here we find ourselves with a Chancellor and PM who appear to have tipped off hedge fund managers before tanking the economy. Nice.

What's wrong with Karteng? By all accounts he's brilliant! 😉

Kwarteng was born in the London Borough of Waltham Forest on 26 May 1975,[3] the only child[4] of Alfred K. Kwarteng and Charlotte Boaitey-Kwarteng, who had emigrated from Ghana as students in the 1960s.[5][6] His mother is a barrister[7] and his father an economist in the Commonwealth Secretariat.[6][8]
After starting school at a state primary school in Waltham Forest,[9] Kwarteng attended Colet Court, an independent preparatory school in London, where he won the Harrow History Prize in 1988.[10] Then Kwarteng went to Eton College, where he was a King's Scholar and was awarded the Newcastle Scholarship prize.[9] He read at Trinity College, Cambridge, achieving a double first class degree in classics and history in 1993,[11][12][9] and twice winning the Browne Medal.[13] He was a member of the team which won the BBC quiz show University Challenge in 1995.[6][14] At Cambridge, he was a member of the University Pitt Club, and has since returned to visit.[15] He was a Kennedy Scholar for a year at Harvard University,[9][16] and then earned a PhD degree in economic history from the University of Cambridge in 2000, with a thesis titled Political thought of the recoinage crisis of 1695–7.[17]

That is exactly what my colleague argued!