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Will Liz Truss really last only 17 more days?

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Uninspiredusername · 14/10/2022 07:28

Newspaper reports as scathing as ever, and The Times suggesting Tories are lining up Sunak and Mordaunt as a duo.

can’t stand the woman but surely she’ll hold on for a bit longer - everyone was saying Boris would go much earlier than he did. And why on earth did they vote her into power in the first place 🙄

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deathofthesnark · 14/10/2022 08:07

MrsDoyle351 · 14/10/2022 07:48

Even before the crazy shitshow of a mini budget, I had predicted she wouldn't last until Christmas.

It is totally unfathomable why the Tory party had voted her in instead of Sunak, who at least has some semblance of common sense about him.

She was a liability from the get go. Slagging off Macron and Sturgeon during her campaign. Pathetic really.

And now the country's economic status in complete turmoil, just when no one needed it. Cheers Liz!

It is totally unfathomable why the Tory party had voted her in instead of Sunak, who at least has some semblance of common sense about him.

Because he can now come in and save the show..... we'll all be so grateful to him for cleaning up after the trussterfuck

DorritLittle · 14/10/2022 08:08

PinkHeadphones · 14/10/2022 07:53

It’s the party that voted her in not the MPs. The party members don’t have to work with her and they will choose someone who they (a v small percentage of the country) like rather than someone who can unite the country/ win an election.
I think the Tories need to change how they choose their leader. This clearly isn’t working for them or us.

Agree.

Scepticalwotsits · 14/10/2022 08:09

The date to watch is the 18th October. That’s the date new members get added to the 1922 committee and those who became ministers are removed. This means the committee will no longer have her ministers in it, making it far more hostile

Theskyisfullofbirds · 14/10/2022 08:10

Scepticalwotsits · 14/10/2022 08:09

The date to watch is the 18th October. That’s the date new members get added to the 1922 committee and those who became ministers are removed. This means the committee will no longer have her ministers in it, making it far more hostile

Interesting.

TheCheesecakeIsPoisoned · 14/10/2022 08:13

Mercurial123 · 14/10/2022 08:03

Tory party members generally don't vote the same way as MPs. As in my comment above they voted for Ian Duncan Smith. MPs would have voted Ken Clarke.

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Well exactly, so why let her to get to the members vote? It was reported that Penny Mordaunt was sunk, why couldn’t they do that to Liz Truss? If they’d been strategic they could have stopped it surely?

DuchessOfDisco · 14/10/2022 08:14

They voted her, they can keep her. If they keep ousting leaders it just shows they have no confidence in their own party and who can vote for them after that?
they made their bed they can lie in it.
only way to oust her is a general election. Hopefully sooner rather than later

colddayinhell · 14/10/2022 08:15

Sunak and Mordor would be far worse!

toomuchlaundry · 14/10/2022 08:19

MPs got her to the final 2, why?

Scepticalwotsits · 14/10/2022 08:19

YouCantBeSadHoldingACupcake · 14/10/2022 07:54

I thought they had to wait 12 months before another leadership contest?

They do based on current rules. However it’s the 1922 committee which creates the rules and they can (and have) changed them before.

DodgyLeftLeg · 14/10/2022 08:20

Below is a list of who are advising against the current policies:

  • her own MPs
  • some of her hand picked cabinet
  • the BoE
  • the OBR
  • the IMF
  • other global politicians
  • ’the market’
  • PLUS lot of the population of the UK

At what point do you think, I probably should be listening here? She doesn’t listen that’s the problem and why she has to go. Aside from crazy policies, she has such an avoidant personality and communication style she was never going to be able to lead.

knittingaddict · 14/10/2022 08:21

TheCheesecakeIsPoisoned · 14/10/2022 07:58

If they didn’t want her as leader, why did they let her get to the final 2?

I wonder this too. Isn't it the mps that vote until the final 2 and then members get their chance? Why on earth did LT end up in the final 2.

DodgyLeftLeg · 14/10/2022 08:22

Mordor would be bad 😂. Luckily, as fantastical as politics is right now, we are not all Hobbits.

sorrynotathome · 14/10/2022 08:23

It is totally unfathomable why the Tory party had voted her in instead of Sunak, who at least has some semblance of common sense about him.

She won the vote because she is white.

KimberleyClark · 14/10/2022 08:24

If Liz Truss loses the confidence of her party it would be a huge v sign to the British electorate to choose yet another leader rather than call an election.

knittingaddict · 14/10/2022 08:26

I don't want Penny M either. It seems that whichever choice we are offered it's always a chalice with a bit of poison floating around in it.

BarbaraofSeville · 14/10/2022 08:36

Politics at the moment (including going back to the Hancock and Cummings days of the pandemic) looks a lot like this to me at the moment.

https://youtube.com/clip/UgkxOhuQw0xPg-Zr1b8ooojPBvZCT4dHnVhN (7.36 to 9 minutes in if it's not clipped properly.

For younger viewers, this is from the Punt and Dennis sketch show in the 1990s. A dodgy minister who was always up to no good and shown as 'I will not be resigning, I will not resign...... I resign'.

BirmaBrite · 14/10/2022 08:37

No idea, but I bet The News quiz will be good tonight.

50ftQueenieee · 14/10/2022 08:46

HIGNFU is going to be gold tonight!

Thatsasmashingblouseyouvegoton · 14/10/2022 08:47

If MPs voted it would have been Sunak.

However, it was the majority white, mc/uc, male over 75 party members who voted and he's the wrong colour for them.

Simple, really.

knittingaddict · 14/10/2022 08:51

Thatsasmashingblouseyouvegoton · 14/10/2022 08:47

If MPs voted it would have been Sunak.

However, it was the majority white, mc/uc, male over 75 party members who voted and he's the wrong colour for them.

Simple, really.

Awful if true and I suspect it might be.

If I had been a tory member I would have voted for Sunak. Not because I rate him highly, but as best of the bunch and a known quantity.

Skyellaskerry · 14/10/2022 08:53

@DuchessOfDisco agree with you.

Novum · 14/10/2022 08:56

And why on earth did they vote her into power in the first place

The Parliamentary party presumably had more sense than the party members and most could see she would be disastrous. The trouble is that enough idiots like Kwarteng, Coffey, Braverman and Rees Mogg supported her to leave her on the ballot for the Bufton-Tuftons in the shires, who loved what she and her supporters told them about taking funding away from poorer areas and putting it into where they lived, deporting pesky immigrants, reducing tax and benefits and all the rest of it. Plus, of course, the Bufton-Tuftons hoped she'd be a new Thatcher and couldn't contemplate the possibility of voting for someone brown.

Alltheprettyseahorses · 14/10/2022 08:56

Sunak didn't lose because of his skin colour, he lost because he's blamed for Johnson going.

Like PP said, the MPs should choose their leader because members of all parties tend towards the wacky, to be polite.

Dotjones · 14/10/2022 08:56

Thatsasmashingblouseyouvegoton · 14/10/2022 08:47

If MPs voted it would have been Sunak.

However, it was the majority white, mc/uc, male over 75 party members who voted and he's the wrong colour for them.

Simple, really.

I agree with this - the choice was between two unpalatable candidates and the least unpalatable (in the membership's eyes) was Truss. Being a woman weighed heavily against her, but that's nowhere as big a millstone as not being white.

FWIW I don't think Sunak would have been any good either, certainly worse than even Boris Johnson, but the speed at which Truss has screwed the country (and herself) has astonished me. I knew she'd be terrible but not this terrible, not this quickly.

Thatsasmashingblouseyouvegoton · 14/10/2022 08:58

I'm sure I read somewhere that the tory party are planning on changing the rules re: PM selection mid term?
So only MPs can vote?
Seems sensible tbh. The MPs know these people and their track record better than Joe public.
Truss has dine exactly what she said she would. And Sunak was right - she has trashed the UK economy.
And for what?
Take their donors and very rich friends even richer.
The only thing "new" about this tory cabinet is that they are no longer hiding who they really are and who they really care about.
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