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Uninspiredusername · 2022-10-14T06:28:03+00:00

Newspaper reports as scathing as ever, and The Times suggesting Tories are lining up Sunak and Mordaunt as a duo. can’t stand the woman but surely she’ll hold on for a bit longer - everyone was saying Boris would go much earlier than he did. And why on earth did they vote her into power in the first place 🙄

Abei · 16/10/2022 11:54

We need a new party and a complete reform of politics / voting. Neither of the main parties are fit for purpose anymore.

Thatsasmashingblouseyouvegoton · 16/10/2022 11:54

I live in an area of the Midlands with a big boomer population.

Mostly they are very well off...
They have benefitted from HUGE housing/property value gains, final salary pensions, women able to retire at 60. State pensions triple locked. New car every 2 years. Several foreign holidays/cruises per year.

The ones who aren't are those who split up/divorced/fled da or have substance abuse problems.
^ obviously this is anecdotal.

ManAboutTown · 16/10/2022 11:55

I'm Generation X and quite happy to acknowledge that in many ways my generation was lucky. Too late for the post war hardships of the late 40s and 50s but arrived in adulthood in the 80s when housing was still relatively affordable

I would think housing is the biggest issue today - pumped by Brown and then inflamed by running zero interest rates for a decade

Thatsasmashingblouseyouvegoton · 16/10/2022 11:57

I'm gen x

I was told by a rabid tory when I was 18 that I didnt vote Conservative because "I had nothing to conserve"...

Well. I'm 50 and have still never voted tory. Never will. And I've got a damn sight more to conserve now than she ever did 🤷‍♀️

the80sweregreat · 16/10/2022 12:01

My late in laws had a council property and were so hard up they had to claim housing benefit, ran an old car onto the ground and as frugal as you like , both from working class backgrounds.
They were conservatives through and through
It was mystery, but they were not the only ones I knew who hated the Labour Party and the unions and loved Mrs Thatcher.

Thatsasmashingblouseyouvegoton · 16/10/2022 12:02

the80sweregreat · 16/10/2022 12:01

My late in laws had a council property and were so hard up they had to claim housing benefit, ran an old car onto the ground and as frugal as you like , both from working class backgrounds.
They were conservatives through and through
It was mystery, but they were not the only ones I knew who hated the Labour Party and the unions and loved Mrs Thatcher.

Aspirational voting

It's a thing

ManAboutTown · 16/10/2022 12:03

I've never voted anything other than Tory but it has been with increasing reluctance over the years. I was tempted by Blair in 97 but was out of the country and by 2001 he had revealed his true colours

To be honest now I am in the plague on all your houses group with no one who I think represents my views. The election between May and Corbyn was a particular low point.

It is profoundly depressing because I believe there are many good people in this country who are being let down by the political class who I have concluded are almost without exception anti-democratic

Thatsasmashingblouseyouvegoton · 16/10/2022 12:04

ManAboutTown · 16/10/2022 12:03

I've never voted anything other than Tory but it has been with increasing reluctance over the years. I was tempted by Blair in 97 but was out of the country and by 2001 he had revealed his true colours

To be honest now I am in the plague on all your houses group with no one who I think represents my views. The election between May and Corbyn was a particular low point.

It is profoundly depressing because I believe there are many good people in this country who are being let down by the political class who I have concluded are almost without exception anti-democratic

Interesting.

Surely voting for Boris Johnson would be your low point?

ManAboutTown · 16/10/2022 12:06

May tried to keep the country in the EU while pretending not to. She should have executed the referendum or had the guts to say I disagree with the vote and had a GE based on re-entry.

Will never trust her or any of her acolytes again

Boris is a clown but not a bad as May

the80sweregreat · 16/10/2022 12:09

I totally understand why Jeremy Corbyn was unpopular with so many people , but the 2019 was always going to be about brexit and the conservatives had their ace card, Boris Johnson and 'getting it done '
People like quick fixes , he was seen as the saviour , the one to break the deadlock!
It would have been hard for any leader of the opposition to have won that election to be honest.

Thatsasmashingblouseyouvegoton · 16/10/2022 12:12

Ah, yes.
People do like catchy 3 word bollocks

ManAboutTown · 16/10/2022 12:12

I think that's true but Boris is not much of a team player. He might have been successful as the front man with a stronger team but they were weak.

vera99 · 16/10/2022 12:13

ManAboutTown · 16/10/2022 12:03

I've never voted anything other than Tory but it has been with increasing reluctance over the years. I was tempted by Blair in 97 but was out of the country and by 2001 he had revealed his true colours

To be honest now I am in the plague on all your houses group with no one who I think represents my views. The election between May and Corbyn was a particular low point.

It is profoundly depressing because I believe there are many good people in this country who are being let down by the political class who I have concluded are almost without exception anti-democratic

People are being let down terribly that's true but there are many good people in Parliament. The trope they are all as bad as each other is a particularly toxic Tory smear and plays into despairing there's nothing we can do impotence.

Here's one who is an ICU doctor.

Notonthestairs · 16/10/2022 12:13

ManAboutTown · 16/10/2022 12:12

I think that's true but Boris is not much of a team player. He might have been successful as the front man with a stronger team but they were weak.

He chose the team.

Thatsasmashingblouseyouvegoton · 16/10/2022 12:16

Borisis a lying, scheming, venal, self serving pig. Sacked from every job he ever had. Tried to get a journalist beaten up, cheated on his wife when she undergoing chemo, lied about being anti EU, partied when people like me watched loved ones funerals via zoom.

But you knew that and voted for him anyway.

Own it. Don't blame others.

the80sweregreat · 16/10/2022 12:16

Boris Johnson chose to throw out the more moderate MPs and gave jobs to the ones who he thought would back him up or just leavers
It Didn't work out that well with Sunak or Gove in the end , but at first he did alienate an awful lot of people to achieve his aims

ManAboutTown · 16/10/2022 12:18

@vera99 - she used to be my MP. She does have an important job but as a politician she is dire. I don't agree with the views of my current Labour MPO but she is several measures

I'm sorry but my remark is not a Tory smear - a glance at the Labour ranks will show that there are just as many grifters, idiots and spivs as the Tories. Quite a few Labour MPs have been sent to prison over the last two years and one or two others like Vaz and Webbe were fortunate to avoid it

Thatsasmashingblouseyouvegoton · 16/10/2022 12:19

the80sweregreat · 16/10/2022 12:16

Boris Johnson chose to throw out the more moderate MPs and gave jobs to the ones who he thought would back him up or just leavers
It Didn't work out that well with Sunak or Gove in the end , but at first he did alienate an awful lot of people to achieve his aims

I think throwing out Chuchills grandson on the anniversary of D Day was a real low point.

But then...its all been low points.

I bet that was JRMs idea, the odious pig.

MrsSkylerWhite · 16/10/2022 12:20

he80sweregreat · Today 09:19
Already started hasn't it?
It's the war, it's the pandemic , it's the energy crisis, all things handled by them and not necessarily that well.
Yet now we have to suck up yet more austerity measures to help them out
The black hole is 45 billion pounds“

Fairly sure £78 billion was mentioned on paper reviews last night.

Thatsasmashingblouseyouvegoton · 16/10/2022 12:21

Make no mistake - the ERG and 1922 committee (who ARE the tory party now) have paid VERY close attention to what the GOP and Trump have done in the US.

the80sweregreat · 16/10/2022 12:21

78 billion! Even worse then :(

MrsSkylerWhite · 16/10/2022 12:23

the80sweregreat · Today 12:21
78 billion! Even worse then “

the idea of piling further austerity onto people already on their knees to pay for their incompetence is criminal.

ManAboutTown · 16/10/2022 12:24

Over the last few years not last two

mrshoho · 16/10/2022 12:25

Shouldn't those good MPs now declare a vote of no confidence in the PM? How can any of them continue to support this government? It seems as though JH is now in charge as that is the impression he is deliberately giving to the general public via the media.

vera99 · 16/10/2022 12:28

I make apologies for voting for JC - he may have had rough edges but the direction of travel when you take away the establishment and media smears is a vision most of the people of this county aspire to. First, we need to dream, then fight and then we can have hope. Michael Sheen summed it up nicely in this moving eve of the election video when the rest of the country gave us Boris FFS.

www.facebook.com/JeremyCorbynMP/videos/603169387176344