Will Liz Truss really last only 17 more days?

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Newspaper reports as scathing as ever, and The Times suggesting Tories are lining up Sunak and Mordaunt as a duo.

can’t stand the woman but surely she’ll hold on for a bit longer - everyone was saying Boris would go much earlier than he did. And why on earth did they vote her into power in the first place 🙄

I think she's done. Gone by the end of the week. She seems utterly friendless - I think that press conference sealed her fate. Hunt has been imposed on her by 'unseen powers' and he's just doing damage limitation until Sunak slides into the post. If Sir Graham gets half the parliamentary party to send in letters then he can change the rules, force Truss to resign either overtly or covertly and acclaim Sunak PM. They can then blame it on the Conservative member electorate who won't ever be let near a ballot again. After all the Tories are nothing if not ruthless bastards.

@the80sweregreat - I live in an affluent borough in London. All the MPs and local council are Labour

That’s my conclusion too. A Sunak/Mordaunt combination probably. Then a complete clear out of the cabinet and a clean start. I still don’t think they can get away with it without calling an election though.

If they did call an election it would be about chipping away at the perceived electoral majority of Labour and the Tories could pour the bile onto Labour from the opposition benches and having been seen to do the right thing. I can't see them winning a majority though.

Sorry , really am not ageist , just going by my own relatives and colleagues.

I still don’t think they can get away with it without calling an election though

They'll probably try to though.

A GE anytime soon will be a disaster for them almost regardless of who they choose so I can’t see it happening unless it’s somehow forced upon them.

Or they just think fuck it and throw in the towel…

The Tory calculus is this: do we go for the election now with the best of the bad bunch (e.g. Sunak/Mordaunt) and terrible polls? Or hang on for 18months and hope the electorate will swallow the pain that is coming and forgive them enough to diminish Labours lead? If they go for a GE this year, it may only be two terms out of office. If they wait, I reckon we will have that party split and Lib Dem-style electoral oblivion.

Perhaps the biggest issue for the Tories is that they have no one ideal to replace her with - Hunt is very unpopular with wide swathes of the electorate and Sunak does not come across as fully committed to the UK with his green card and wife's non-dom status. Mordaunt doesn't seem to know what a woman is.

There are a couple at the level below like Badenoch and Clarke but neither of them could carry off the PM role at this point.

Yes, I’m sure they’ll try to get away without a suicidal GE but imagine the outcry. I think the vitriol will be from the opposition benches, they wouldn’t have a leg to stand on. Remember what Rees Mogg said?

www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/politics/boris-johnson-general-election-mogg-b2000833.html

Mordaunt doesn't seem to know what a woman is.

They don’t care about that. And, to be honest, nor do 95% of the electorate, especially when they can’t pay their mortgage, heat their home or feed their kids.

I can't see any GE on the horizon.
That have drafted in JH who seems to be a pragmatic ' safe pair of hands ' old school conservative.
His starting to tell the truth : they will repeat the same old lines ' global forces , the war , energy borrowing , covid ' on a loop now until people starting repeating it back to them.
' oh well, we had lockdown, what do people expect ? ' they had to sort out energy bills ' etc.
Cuts and austerity will be hard , but the ones it doesn't affect too much will also suck it up too.
I can feel how it might play out

Why don’t people like Hunt again? I mean I didn’t during the pandemic but maybe others have different reasons.

His political stick had gone up a lot on the last week or so, he has ruled out going for PM which might actually work in his favour. There’s a lot riding on the Oct 31st statement and if it goes well peopls could unite behind him. If not, well it’s going to be bad.

It would be madness for them to call a GE
Keeping in power is all they have. At any cost.
I think they will keep LT out the way for as long as they can get away with it and start the whole subliminal messaging that it's not entirely of their own doing ! I've seen it before.
Blaming the Bank of England for interest rate rises is handy too!

Stock..

Her days are numbered. When one of your own MPs is describing his government's recent behaviour as that of 'libertarian jihadists" you know you've fucked up.

Robert Halson ( the Harlow mp anyway , might have wrong surname there ) he was scathing with Sophy Ridge earlier on

@MarshaBradyo - his stewardship of the NHS was dreadful and he will not be trusted by any of their voters who were for Brexit. In the last election that helped build the northern wall and they will be gone (they may be gone anyway)

The outcries already happening Truss did a skip fire of her principles and Chancellor. They've crossed a line now and there's no going back and almost anything can happen. It's like the beginning of Stingray (showing my age) - "anything can happen in the next half hour... "

To me, JH looked quite gleeful today at the prospect of further cuts / austerity and being able to reverse everything !
Won't affect him too much I suppose
He knows he'll never be the PM
It's his chance to shine , but it won't be pretty

Halfon , the Harlow MP.

We’ve already had a few on here repeating back the spiel

Wow just wow...

www.electoralcalculus.co.uk/prediction_main.html

*The boomers are mostly already retired and owe their own homes and if they can keep out of hospitals they are generally protected from any cut backs or rise in the pension age. If they are conservative voters they will just go about the Labour Party being bad

I know a few people like this , in their own little protected bubble*

l was born in 64. Right at the tail end. I’ve voted Labour all my life. Also l live in the most affluent educated area outside London, full of ‘Boomers’. We have a Labour MP.

I wasn't being horrible about ' boomers ' at all
Just that the ones I know about are like this
My colleagues tend to be conservative voters too.
It might just be the area where I live, or having older relatives, but it is my experience and people you talk to their parents seem to be the same too. It's not a hugely affluent area, but people seem comfortable and tend to agree with more conservative values

Truss is obviously toast and doesn't look as if she can take much more, so Hunt in pole position to be PM? Straight on the media round so if there are reassuring noises from the markets on Monday, surely he's not going to be shifted. The Sunak/Mordaunt thing looks demented. So Truss resigns (or loses her party VNC - can't believe she'll go that far), and Hunt is slithered in (ie no opponent) or someone like Braverman stands (trounced). Calls for GE get louder. It's going to get much worse (worldwide) before it gets better but still a mountain to climb for Labour and the polls can hardly go higher!