Totally agree with Sturgeon re the tories

[FayeGovan]

I destest them and their policies too

Good on her for telling it like it is

I know shes hated on mn, or rather on scotsnet. They prefer the tories there, christ knows why. Independence is a dirty word on scotsnet. So i know I'll be shot down, but i couldn't care less.

Good on you Nicola👍

She doesn’t know what a woman or a girl is.
At least she won’t say it will she.

Has anyone ever directly asked her?

Laura Kuennsenberg was doing her job as political journalist! The concept that she is tory through and through how do you know? She's a journalist like many people has political silence in relationship to which way she may vote!

She makes it abundantly obvious where her loyalty lies. Her interview style is completely different when she’s got a Tory in front of her.

She's often accused of being a terrible leftie - so I suppose it depends on your view.

Oops….hit a nerve have I @Alexandra2001 ;)

As a point of order, the Scottish Government is already being investigated for corruption around the boat building debacle so no need for me to do anything. But, I have in the past and will do so again. Though I chose to just close operations in Scotland instead.

On pensions, you seem to have an I’m alright jack pull up the ladder view, which is odd. I too am alright as well, and naturally liberal / conservative with a small ‘c’ but anyone on an average or below average income has seen their company / private pension provision significantly reduced. The changes, introduced to hit companies and those on higher incomes, had the foreseeable by all (except the government of the time) effect of companies closing private final salary pension schemes, disproportionally impacting those on lower incomes.

The greens have lost their majority by a significant margin, so clearly people, weren’t happy but the damage will take years to undo.

You have to go back decades, because the impact of some of these things takes years to be seen. Which is why the politicians of all colours get away with it - the average voter doesn’t look that far ahead and says oh good, tax the rich. Give more benefits to the poor. Spend more money. Cut taxes. Raise taxes. Few have the inclination or ability to take a long term view of how business, markets, countries will view the changes. It’s why most parties don’t even pretend to have any polices anymore - the average voter just doesn’t care. But sure, I’m the one with no critical thinking 😂

it’s true the parties are not what they were. The conservatives have moved much further to the centre, pre the Liz lurch to the right. Labour was electable in the late ‘90s, lost it completely and is now treading water. Still no policies. The liberals are all but gone. The SNP have a strangle hold on Scotland by promising things it can’t deliver. If anything the SNP is the party that hasn’t changed. And maybe it should. The greens are irrelevant as green becomes mainstream.

Still, let’s stick to the one party good other parties bad mantra - it’s worked so well for us 🤔PR is what we need to get functioning government again

Yes.

Had to hold your nose Xdown

What does that even mean?

She no more inclines to the left than I’m a Tory.

I think it would be absolutely shocking if Joanna Cherry felt she had to leave the SNP due to how she felt she was being treated. The fact that she hasn’t gone that far isn’t indicative that there is no problem. There shouldn’t have been attempts to deselect her in the manner that it occurred in the first place. What a mess.

@SomePosters
The Period Products policy was Monica Lennon of the Labour Party . Fuck all to do woth Sturgeon. I know because I was one of the grass roots women that Monica consulted about the issue when she first raised it . It was never considered by Sturgeon. Usual Snp taking credit where it isn't due.

The period stuff at my DCs school has to be collected at the school office so the girls are mortified at the idea of going to get it. I wouldn’t give a shit but I’m not a teenage girl.

And what was her answer?

@XDownwiththissortofthingX you can infer what people mean they don't have to exactly say the words most of us are capable of reading between the lines
She is very anti english lets at least be honest

I means that I find her a distraction, so while there was never any question I wouldn't vote for her, I did it grudgingly.

@Bananasweetlady bullshit. It was a grassroots policy driven forward by women for independence & snp MSP gillian Martin.
When it was 3/4 of the way down the road ( you know because governments actually have to cost & budget policies,) Monica started a private members bill which got cross party support cos you know folk agreed.
That bill got passed (because the snp wanted it to pass, you know them having a majority and all)

Then after being properly costed etc it was made law. Monica herself acknowledged this in her speech several times.

Hope that helps.
Truth matters

Correct.

What a horrible bunch of bastards the SNP are though, enacting policies that are the brainchild of an unaffiliated MSP.

I mean, they should have just told her to do one, and win an election if she wanted that done. Right?

@XDownwiththissortofthingX i know what she said and what she means , I don't like her either or some of what her party appears to stand for
You can't group a whole load go people and say you despise them but yes I will work with them
I hope she gets her independence I really do , buy that means independent all strings cut straight away
But funnily they often can't answer some of the questions such as currency to be used etc
People haven't learnt from brexit that you need every answer of what will happen before you jump out

I also think allow the english and welsh to vote as well
But funnily she doesn't want the scottish who currently live in england to have a vote

I agree with her. This Tory party are scum.

I can't 'be honest' about her being 'anti-english' because there's nothing credible that would suggest that assertion has any basis in reality.

NS has spoken often enough about the fact that she wants English people in Scotland to be entirely welcome and feel wanted, values them being here, appreciates England as a nation, hopes that it will go from strength to strength after Scotland leaves the UK, and that the two nations will enjoy cordial and productive relations. She has also condemned anti-English hate plenty of times, so no, I totally refute your claim she's 'anti-English'.

If you suggested she was 'anti-UK' I'd be in full agreement with you, because she's pretty transparent about her dislike for the UK as a political State. I also wouldn't be surprised if this is perceived as 'anti-Englishness' by English people, because a huge number of them are entirely anglocentric and happily use 'UK' and 'England' interchangeably.

If you perceive her as 'anti-English', I'd suggest that's down to your preconceived notion of the UK being the accepted norm, and NS's disdain for that translating inside your mind to disdain for England.

When asked if she could say what a woman is she said

’I'm not going to, I'm just not going to get into this debate at a level that's about simplified and lurid headlines. Trans people are amongst, possibly the most, stigmatised and discriminated against minorities in our society’

Her quote goes on beyond that too.

Repoeted in multiple news outlets.

You can of course Google this yourself if you were genuinely interested. But here you are.

She also doesn’t feel there’s a conflict between trans rights and women’s rights re single sex spaces.

Again, that's entirely down to the fact the SG can not legislate for people living in England.

Are you now demanding that Nicola Sturgeon SHOULD be able to enact policy in England?

If Scottish people in England want to vote in a Scottish referendum, then they need to either acquire Scots voting rights the same way as everyone else, i.e. reside within Scotland and get on the electoral roll, or campaign for the Westminster government to cooperate with Holyrood in order to facilitate voting in England.

Right, so she has answered then, and it's completely disingenuous and and outright lie to suggest she hasn't or will not.

The fact you don't like the answer or are unwilling to accept it is irrelevant.

Personally I'm relieved that the FM is evidently in touch with the overwhelming majority view that this banal 'what is a woman?' nonsense is nothing more than an obsession of a tiny minority.

No, it’s not disingenuous at all.

She won’t say what a woman is. She hasn’t said what a woman is. She has clearly avoided saying what a woman is.

She he’s clearly avoided saying what a woman is which is an adult human female.

And it’s not an obsession to be able to define 50% of society.

If you can’t define it, you can’t protect it nor legislate around it.

Or do you also not know what a woman is?

She won’t say what a woman is. She hasn’t said what a woman is. She has clearly avoided saying what a woman is

Yes, because she (thankfully) regards the whole premise of being asked that question so banal that it isn't worth entertaining.