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Why do women hate an OW?

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Oatmealbiscuits · 08/10/2022 17:47

When a woman is seeing a married man, why do people say they wouldn't want her as a friend, in their lives anymore etc? Why are they judged solely on one thing when there may be so many other positives to their character.

I'm curious really, for the record I'm not an other woman, but my friend is. It's her business and I shall be there when the shit inevitably hits the fan.

If some posters on here had their way, she wouldn't have friends and would be isolated and lonely. I just don't think anyone deserves that when in reality it's the man who has taken vows.

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Hitatiks · 10/10/2022 12:45

Thereisnolight · 10/10/2022 12:29

Probably a mixture.

I’ve never been murdered but I don’t condone murder.

The majority of posters arguing against the OW haters aren’t condoning affairs. They are either arguing to judge each case individually, or most commonly, arguing against the focus being, as it always is on here, on the OW rather her than the H. The bile, spite and abuse thrown at posters making these reasonable, even if you disagree with them, arguments tells nothing about the verbally abused, a lot about the abuser.

I came on this thread believing that the focus on OW, rather than husbands, was childish, obsessive and misogynistic. The posters defending the OW hate have, through their tone and language, validated my view on this more than I could ever have imagined. Especially the childish part. I did think perhaps I had been a bit unfair with that accusation upthread, but I very clearly wasn’t.

Gotskeaswr · 10/10/2022 12:45

‘A post can be accurate as well as emotional and a bit sweary and in this case it was.’

shame the poster resorted to abusive name calling them, and deprived everyone of reading it… and as for accurate, an opinion is an opinion, not facts. Just as some would disagree with my posts though others might think that they’re ‘accurate’

Gotskeaswr · 10/10/2022 12:48

I’m certainly NOT condoning affairs, but I do think the vitriol and hatred aimed at perceived OW is misogynistic and unfair. And because of that have had some really shitty comments and names thrown my way.
None of which has changed my mind about why Women get abuse and blame …

Amybelle88 · 10/10/2022 12:53

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ReneBumsWombats · 10/10/2022 12:55

Thereisnolight · 10/10/2022 12:43

A post can be accurate as well as emotional and a bit sweary and in this case it was.

It was a torrent of abuse and nothing more. It added nothing and took away a lot.

Amybelle88 · 10/10/2022 12:56

It really, really wasn't 😂😂🥱🥱

ReneBumsWombats · 10/10/2022 12:57

Also, I'm sick of the absolutely mind numbingly dim retort of "it's the partner who's doing the cheating who should get all the anger" when you've been told on numerous occasions, the majority of women on here think BOTH are cuplible.

So both sides are arguing by assertion. Why are only you allowed to keep speaking?

And it's fine to call people "bints" if you don't know them?

ReneBumsWombats · 10/10/2022 12:58

Amybelle88 · 10/10/2022 12:56

It really, really wasn't 😂😂🥱🥱

Well, take it up with MNHQ if you think it deserves to be reinstated.

Gotskeaswr · 10/10/2022 12:58

How many deleted posts do you need to have before getting a ban? Asking for a friend…

Amybelle88 · 10/10/2022 13:01

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Thereisnolight · 10/10/2022 13:02

The thread (started about OWs) can be summed up thus:

Majority replying that the OW’s behaviour is abhorrent.

A few posters saying we should blame the OM only because the OW owes nothing to anyone except herself (and also we should not swear).

MarieIVanArkleStinks · 10/10/2022 13:05

Deletions operate on a three strikes rule, within a set time period (I think from memory it's six weeks).

The post in question was a garbled, abusive screed and certainly not my estimation of 'articulate'.

And most people can read (or drop) a few fuck-bombs without having to reach for the smelling salts. It's the name-calling that's something else.

Amybelle88 · 10/10/2022 13:06

Thereisnolight · 10/10/2022 13:02

The thread (started about OWs) can be summed up thus:

Majority replying that the OW’s behaviour is abhorrent.

A few posters saying we should blame the OM only because the OW owes nothing to anyone except herself (and also we should not swear).

Definitely do not swear.

It invalidates anything you say.

Cheminaufaules · 10/10/2022 13:08

Thereisnolight · 10/10/2022 13:02

The thread (started about OWs) can be summed up thus:

Majority replying that the OW’s behaviour is abhorrent.

A few posters saying we should blame the OM only because the OW owes nothing to anyone except herself (and also we should not swear).

Great summing up!

I wonder why there are some women in the world who would never even entertain the idea of having a relationship with a married man? Is it that they are morally/emotionally much more intelligent?!

Amybelle88 · 10/10/2022 13:08

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Gotskeaswr · 10/10/2022 13:08

@MarieIVanArkleStinks thanks, I was sort of joking but so am getting tired of reading the word ‘bint’

ReneBumsWombats · 10/10/2022 13:11

Hitatiks · 10/10/2022 12:45

The majority of posters arguing against the OW haters aren’t condoning affairs. They are either arguing to judge each case individually, or most commonly, arguing against the focus being, as it always is on here, on the OW rather her than the H. The bile, spite and abuse thrown at posters making these reasonable, even if you disagree with them, arguments tells nothing about the verbally abused, a lot about the abuser.

I came on this thread believing that the focus on OW, rather than husbands, was childish, obsessive and misogynistic. The posters defending the OW hate have, through their tone and language, validated my view on this more than I could ever have imagined. Especially the childish part. I did think perhaps I had been a bit unfair with that accusation upthread, but I very clearly wasn’t.

I agree.

It's ridiculous how many people hear "blame the man, it's his responsibility, stop making women the gatekeepers of male sexuality" and decide it means "affairs are fine, women should shut up, I think OW are brilliant".

I am very, very wary of people who think that an offence to their personal morals, however true and right those morals may be, makes it impossible for them to overreact and put themselves in the wrong by doing so. That the more abusive they are in response, the more moral they are.

Gotskeaswr · 10/10/2022 13:11

‘The thread (started about OWs) can be summed up thus:

Majority replying that the OW’s behaviour is abhorrent.

A few posters saying we should blame the OM only because the OW owes nothing to anyone except herself (and also we should not swear).’

see - that’s STILL too simple, black and white.

it’s not either or. It’s WHY are we so hard on the OW and not the bloke.
no-one is blameless in an affair situation

bloodyplanes · 10/10/2022 13:11

Gotskeaswr · 10/10/2022 11:32

‘Because the OW has millions of men to fuck but she chose a married man with a wife and kids.’

its not just about sex for most people, is it. And in that situation - the married man with kids is IMHO far worse than the OW…

It absolutely is about sex in the majority of cases! These pathetic men and women need their egos stroking because they have pathetically low self esteem. What better way to do that than to have someone who seemingly can't get enough of you? Its a power trip!

ReneBumsWombats · 10/10/2022 13:14

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How long are you going to try to justify your garbled, sexist, name-calling rant?

It was thoroughly abusive and tone lowering and it deserved to be deleted. I was offended and it wasn't directed at me. If you think you've been mistreated and it was a responsible post that deserves to stand, and it's ok to call women "bints" as well as everything else (that was the least of it), take it up with MNHQ. They make the rules, they decide what to pull.

MarieIVanArkleStinks · 10/10/2022 13:14

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The thread prompted a discussion of generalities but sorry, I'm not remotely interested in what people - let alone complete strangers on the internet - get up to in their personal sex-lives. That's precisely none of my business.

I recommend a lie down in a darkened room before you burst a vein.

ReneBumsWombats · 10/10/2022 13:18

It's interesting that a person who is so determined to blame OW is also so determined to argue with other posters about MNHQ pulling her posts.

Take it up with your husband, take it up with MNHQ. What's anyone else going to do about it?

Gotskeaswr · 10/10/2022 13:18

‘How long are you going to try to justify your garbled, sexist, name-calling rant?’

long enough to have every bloody post deleted until they get the message hopefully! This level of misogynistic name calling usually comes from men, not women,
in my experience.

Amybelle88 · 10/10/2022 13:21

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Amybelle88 · 10/10/2022 13:25

Gotskeaswr · 10/10/2022 13:18

‘How long are you going to try to justify your garbled, sexist, name-calling rant?’

long enough to have every bloody post deleted until they get the message hopefully! This level of misogynistic name calling usually comes from men, not women,
in my experience.

😂😂😂😂😂😂

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