To think that if you have time to be on MN moaning about your

[Amethyst8]

Cleaner then you probably have time to be doing your cleaning yourself. Find myself a bit bewildered by the complaints about cleaners on here. Not really a problem in the the true sense of the word IMO. Is your purse also too small for your £50s and are your diamond shoes too tight? (thank you Chandler! )

I disagree. You can be unhappy with your cleaner without wanting to do it yourself. And even if you have got time to do it yourself then you may not want to and if you can afford not to then why not have a cleaner? So yes, YABU imo.

And I complained about my cleaner on here, got loads of fantastic advice and as a result managed to sort it out with her and she has now worked for me for over a year.

You can be on MN from work.

You can't clean your kitchen floor from work.

Aye thenk yow.

Well if you have to to MN at work then you should be working bloody harder hunker

Sheesh, you Mumsnetters don't know you are biorn.

Shheesh.

How about if you love your cleaner and you are on here saying how fab she is? Does that mean you have time to be doing it yourself?

Surely having a cleaner is not to save time, but effort? I've got plenty of time to clean, but can't be bothered... shame I can't afford a cleaner

No you are not being unreasonable. I find some of the Lady Muck type posts regarding their dreadful problems with their cleaners and how you can't get the staff nowadays are pretty pathetic.

But how about if you are perfectly happy with your cleaner? Do you have a fundamental objection to me having one or would you just prefer I didn't parade my lack of guilt all over the internet?

If I was paying a cleaner it's none of their goddamn business what I'm doing whilst they are working, anymore than it would be a nurseries if my children were there and I was at home on MN.

I farking hate certain elements of cleaning and would probably pay someone to do it if I could justify spending that money in that way, and if I was paying someone to do it, I would expect them (As with any employee) to do it to the standard for which they are paid.

I laught sometimes at the posh thin Mummies at my DD's school who employ staff to do everything for them, but then spend most of the day at the gym trying to be a size 8.

Surely if they were scrubbing their own floors/cutting their own lawn etc they would be naturally fit and save money?

YABU

people can whinge about whatever they want

if no-one had cleaners or gardeners or window cleaners or au pairs or other help at home, what would happen to all those people ? paying for help at home is fine , what is with the inverted snobbery?

I can't be bothered to dp my own cleaning but like coming on MN and moaning about what I need to moan about at the time

yeah, I pay people to look after my kids, do the cleaning, and housework and the garden SO THAT I have time to come on here

I have a cleaner but haven't written about her on MN. Does that mean I deserve her more than those that have?

DrN, I don't have a cleaner though. So I work full time AND share the all the chores with DH, who also works full time

i dont have a cleaner

i make time for moaning by never cleaning

'I laught sometimes at the posh thin Mummies at my DD's school who employ staff to do everything for them, but then spend most of the day at the gym trying to be a size 8.'

Do I detect a little bit of the green-eyed monster?!

No I have a cleaner, live in help (Au Pair), a gardener (one day per week)and a 'handy' man (one day per week).

I am quite happy with my size 12 figure and my very blue eyes.

I don't have a cleaner but I have a window cleaner - is that allowed or should I be hoiking myself up the ladder?

Have a gardener too - sounds grand but it's not - gardening is just not my bag. Sometimes when he's here and my children are all at school I go and meet my friend for coffee. We don't 'do' the gym.

lol at women who dont have cleaners not needing gym cos they will be thin from doing housework

Bah, wish I was thin from doing housework!

Oh hang on, sitting on the sofa and drinking tea while thinking about hoovering doesn't count, does it?

Damn!

No I'm sure you are not expected to climb the ladder yourself.

It was more that one mum pays someone to walk her dogs everyday and then spends that time on a treadmill in the gym - I know where I'd rather be!

Yes, I too tend to spend time having coffee with friends or helping out at a local SN toddler group or taking part in an activety which involves my friends eg, golf or tennis.

NOBODY cleans my house, and I wouldn't have it any other way

Of course having Window Cleaners and Gardeners and any other kind of help you may feel you require is allowed. I was just wondering if "problems" with them is really something to moan about. If they are that crap sack them or do the cleaning yourself. If they are causing you so much stress that you feel the need to unload on MN in AIBU section then IMO you would be better off spending your time mopping a few floors and cleaning a few toilets down here with the little people.

I just have a picture of Boden clad, middle class, yummy mummies gnashing their teeth and sprinting to the computer to share their frustrations at the hired help leaving early instead of staying till the bitter end flicking their duster at non existent dust. I have been a home cleaner in my time and I am sorry but you ALWAYS feel patronised and distinctly looked down upon, ALWAYS..and the threads and responses I have read on here with only a few exceptions confirm that.

LOL Flllightattendant . Same here.

well amethyst people moan about all sorts on here...you could always argue that maoning is a waste of time that could be better spent elesewhere but psychologically it helps often to write it down and let it out and sometimes as a result you feel better about making sloutions or see the funny side or get practical advice