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To think that if you have time to be on MN moaning about your

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Amethyst8 · 26/01/2008 10:24

Cleaner then you probably have time to be doing your cleaning yourself. Find myself a bit bewildered by the complaints about cleaners on here. Not really a problem in the the true sense of the word IMO. Is your purse also too small for your £50s and are your diamond shoes too tight? (thank you Chandler! )

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clam · 26/01/2008 12:21

Which is one of the reasons I'm putting off getting one, even though my (P/time) job is getting more and more time/energy consuming. Would I feel guilty about sitting down for 5 minutes with the paper if she was hoovering around my feet? I could justify it to myself by knowing that I work b*** hard the rest of the week, but part of me would still feel like I was coming across as Lady Muck

expatinscotland · 26/01/2008 12:28

I disagree, too.

Maybe some folks don't want to do their cleaning and can afford to hire it out.

Well, good for them! They're happier for not doing it and someone gets money they want or need for providing the service.

There's no medal of virtue for slogging things out.

swiftyknickers · 26/01/2008 12:30

what a nobber

sorry thats not very middle class is it

hercules1 · 26/01/2008 12:31

It's not about time. It's not wanting to do it and having the money to pay someone else to do it. Simple.

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Amethyst8 · 26/01/2008 12:47

And arent you lucky to be in that position where someone else cleans your toilet and picks up your used tissues etc because you dont want to and can afford for someone else to? However on one particular day your cleaner left a dust bunny in the corner, so what do you do? Obviously immediately dash to the computer to let MN know thats what. What bothers me is just that she probably cleaned all kinds of cr*p up for you and your family before she left 20 minutes early for the day and she does that every time she comes because you dont want and can afford not to. Of course there are no names on Mumsnet but you are giving your cleaner a virtual drubbing when she is doing the crap that you dont want to. Who the hell wouldnt leave work early if they can get away with it? Employing cleaners? not a problem. Whinging about them to thousands of other women because you have unrealistic expections? Get a Grip.

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Janos · 26/01/2008 12:48

Well, I have to be honest..I loathe housework and if I could afford it I'd pay for a cleaner. But then I work full time and am bloody well knackered!

hercules1 · 26/01/2008 12:49

You seem rather bitter and if I dare say a bit jealous.

VictorianSqualor · 26/01/2008 12:56

If I had a cleaner that left 20minutes early and didnt clean properly I'd sack her. Just as I would if I owned a business and my staff left early without doing their job.

You say it's unreasonable to complain about that, yet you've posted a thread complaining about complaining!

needmorecoffee · 26/01/2008 12:58

How many people have cleaners then? I've never met anyone with one so I'm intrigued.

Carmenere · 26/01/2008 13:03

When you employ a person to do a job of work for an agreed amount and an agreed time it is not unreasonable to expect them to keep to their end of the bargain. It is irrelevant if the job in question is distasteful. It is also perfectly reasonable to a) express concern and b) ask for advice on mumsnet.

sprogger · 26/01/2008 13:04

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Kbear · 26/01/2008 13:04

I think you can come on MN and moan about anything you want to.

cariboo · 26/01/2008 13:05

We have a team of professional cleaners who come twice a month. I spend hours cleaning (tidying) before they come so they can do all the heavy work - the actual cleaning. Floors, dust, polishing, scrubbing... It's fantastic coming home after they've been but it doesn't last that long.

KrippledKerryMum · 26/01/2008 13:06

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Amethyst8 · 26/01/2008 13:07

What is there for me to be jealous of hercules1? I would be interested to read how you have reached that opinion from my posts. I think house cleaners sometimes get a raw deal. Hence this thread.

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speak2deb · 26/01/2008 13:07

I've got a cleaner. DP refuses to do his fair share of the housework (i.e. half the housework) so I told him he'd had to pay for a cleaner to do his share.

Once you've got one, you'd never go back. It's so lovely to come back to a clean-smelling house and a pile of freshly ironed clothes once a week.

ZippiBabes · 26/01/2008 13:08

eactly i think you can moan how you like of course moaing on mnis a bit of a dou ble edged sword

hercules1 · 26/01/2008 13:08

Purely based on starting this thread and your recent post. Seemed quite a rant! That's all.

hercules1 · 26/01/2008 13:09

plus my own jealousy!

cariboo · 26/01/2008 13:09

Good to rant. Anything is fair game for a good rant on MN!

moljam · 26/01/2008 13:10

why so angry op?
i dont have cleaner but do put ds2 in cms for 4 hours once a week so i can get on with cleaning(sometimes i accidently clean the pc so hard it turns on and i have to check mn!).i admit im lazy and only way i'll clean is if i have too!.
i just dont get why your cross about it?
are you a cleaner that doesnt do the job properly and know that your employer is mumnetter?

VictorianSqualor · 26/01/2008 13:10

Amethyst, if a cleaner is leaving 20 minutes early without completing her tasks then she deserves to be moaned about, I think the fact that if a cleaner had done all her tasks to a high standard and then left 20minutes early, she probably would still get paid for that time means she gets quite a fair deal.

There are people in every job that get a raw deal. If you take a job and accept to undertake tasks for a set wage then you should do them.

NineUnlikelyTales · 26/01/2008 13:10

People moan about all sorts here. Isn't that the point of MN?

I think I must be unique. I have both been a cleaner and had a cleaner, oh and also not had one (at present). Does that mean I can say anything I like?

needmorecoffee · 26/01/2008 13:12

I'd love a cleaner as never get time to clean with 3 kids, one of whom requires 24 hour care. House really is disgusting. But then I'd be ashamed at my scruffy old furniture, smell of damp from leaky roof and piles of washing up/laundry

Psychomum5 · 26/01/2008 13:13

hey.....some people have cleaners because they can, but many hire them because they work full time and the time at home is for the DH, DC's, cooking/eating, MN and relaxing!

and there are others who have had cleaners who have needed them because they are either too ill (like me after my car accidents!) to do the heavy cleaning themselves, or that they are carers and this free's up a little time to do that hard job!

and then we all like to have a little moan sometimes too, especially I find on PMT weeks), and so the cleaner is the one getting it that time!!

tis not just the yummy mummys with cleaners and the ability to moan you know!