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To think Kate/Catherine, Princess of Wales, is one of the luckiest and most admirable women alive?!

445 replies

KohinoorDiamond · 07/10/2022 12:57

She’s a Princess and future Queen Consort. She’s the wife of a Prince and future King. Mother to Princes and a Princess. Mother to a future King and the British royal family’s future bloodline.

She’s very good looking, wealthy, has a good figure and wears lovely clothes. She has mastered the art of ‘do not complain, do not explain’. So, she comes across very well (such as how she handled this yesterday: Princess of Wales challenged during royal visit to Northern Ireland).

Unlike a diamond, I can’t find any flaws in Catherine, Princess of Wales; she comes across as too perfect to fault! She has it all and more.

There’s a lot to admire because she seems to be the luckiest woman alive. What does everyone else think?

OP posts:
Wanttobehappy123 · 07/10/2022 16:37

I think it’s very hard for anyone to measure exactly how ‘ nice’ she actually is. She comes across as someone extremely guarded with an artificial public persona and id imagine it’s only her husband and family who know what she’s really like.
I think there are far more remarkable women to admire than her. I know plenty women who work full time jobs, keep a house and themselves to a reasonable standard and take care of children, parents or whatever without a fraction of the help Kate has. These women are truly worthy of admiration! Good luck to her but there is absolutely nothing inspirational about her.

User112 · 07/10/2022 16:40

piss poor PR attempt 👎

TarasHarp55 · 07/10/2022 16:45

No sorry I don't admire her in the slightest.

I admire brave strong women such as those in Iran, Afghanistan etc who are risking their lives making a stand for equality.

There is not one thing I admire about any of the royals.

ghostyslovesheets · 07/10/2022 16:47

I'm no royalist but I'm going to call out the Camilla - bag of spanners bollox - she's 75! not 30 - she's spent her life outdoors, smoking and drinking gin - I envy that!

Why do older women have to look like bloody real housewives FFS - she's fine as she is

Andypandy799 · 07/10/2022 16:53

TarasHarp55 · 07/10/2022 16:45

No sorry I don't admire her in the slightest.

I admire brave strong women such as those in Iran, Afghanistan etc who are risking their lives making a stand for equality.

There is not one thing I admire about any of the royals.

I agree but they have a long hard fight on there hands due to the Muslim religion.

I am no expert and I know they are many variants but in general it is very male power dominated and controlled. Religious police 🤦‍♂️

But when people continue to buy goods from these countries we are part of the problem and not the solution.

Thepeopleversuswork · 07/10/2022 16:55

@derxa

What exactly is it you disagree with? Do you not think that a Queen Consort is pretty patriarchal?

I can't have a discussion with you if you don't set out what your arguments are.

ToGanymedeAndTitan · 07/10/2022 16:56

Not read all the replies,but YABU
I wouldn't want her life for anything, I couldn't live with that level of attention.
Never being able to just pop out by yourself, do your own thing... it'd be like living in a cage.
Also, why would I want to look like her, weight or hair wise or whatever?!
Yes, she's thin and pretty, but she's not me, is she.
I'd want to be me, not copying someone else.

ArcaneWireless · 07/10/2022 17:01

Absolutely agreed @ghostyslovesheets

She has had a life lived and looks grand on it.

If the expected is the waxen plumped smooth look then I’d prefer to look as though I’d lived well too.

Folk have their life in their face. Every laugh. Every frown. It is natural to age and nothing gladdens me more than seeing a face with life in it. There is nothing natural in the alternative.

I hope she’s had a bloody ball. And if her warm, smiling face is anything to go by? She bloody well has. So cheers to that Gin🍾

PerfectlyPreservedQuagaarWarrior · 07/10/2022 17:04

Well as far as female role models go, she is doing a good job.

No she isn't. In fairness to her the role doesn't really allow for that, I don't think that's what she's consciously attempting either.

the80sweregreat · 07/10/2022 17:04

I'd hate the scrutiny
Especially by the daily Mail and my fashion sense is non existent

ToGanymedeAndTitan · 07/10/2022 17:11

@PerfectlyPreservedQuagaarWarrior
This is nothing to do with the thread, but cool name
Kind of like.... a roast chicken 😁

derxa · 07/10/2022 17:13

sammylady37 · 07/10/2022 15:48

No. I am a doctor. So, I’ve made practical use of the education I was fortunate to receive. I do a job that requires me to be at the top of my game every day because if I’m not, other people will suffer serious consequences. I did not have the luxury of retreating to opulent surroundings during covid, keeping my family and myself away from high risk situations while suffering no loss of income etc.

I don’t expect or want any special recognition for what I do, I’m well remunerated and it’s an extremely rewarding and fulfilling job in many ways, but it does make me laugh and raise an eyebrow when I read about how hard Kate works or how ‘someone had to do her job’.

She's in training for a life of meeting people in all walks of life from presidents to ordinary people. Knowing all about them and speaking appropriately and knowledgably at all times. Yesterday she was harangued in NI. That could all have gone horribly wrong. Her life and that of her family are in danger 24 hours a day.
You trained for a profession and do it well but you go home at the end of the day and it's over.
She's literally going to be Queen. You might be scathing about that because a certain brand of feminism seems to delight in denigrating other women's choices.

ghostyslovesheets · 07/10/2022 17:14

exactly @ArcaneWireless she looks like a lot of fun at parties!

derxa · 07/10/2022 17:16

Thepeopleversuswork · 07/10/2022 16:55

@derxa

What exactly is it you disagree with? Do you not think that a Queen Consort is pretty patriarchal?

I can't have a discussion with you if you don't set out what your arguments are.

Her great grandmother in law was Head of State for 70 years.
This role model thing does my head in. Why do people need role models? Set a goal and get on with it.

derxa · 07/10/2022 17:17

*grand mother in law

vera99 · 07/10/2022 17:19

Jones9876 · 07/10/2022 16:34

I totally agree, I feel like she's Diana mark 2 - especially given the rumours about William and Rose Hanbury 😕

Nah Diana was far better and far more interesting.

vera99 · 07/10/2022 17:22

derxa · 07/10/2022 17:13

She's in training for a life of meeting people in all walks of life from presidents to ordinary people. Knowing all about them and speaking appropriately and knowledgably at all times. Yesterday she was harangued in NI. That could all have gone horribly wrong. Her life and that of her family are in danger 24 hours a day.
You trained for a profession and do it well but you go home at the end of the day and it's over.
She's literally going to be Queen. You might be scathing about that because a certain brand of feminism seems to delight in denigrating other women's choices.

More fawn than a herd of Bambi's in a magic forest. You don't run a failing online Party Tat company by any chance?

threecupsofteaminimum · 07/10/2022 17:23

TwoMonthsOff · 07/10/2022 13:07

she can't pop to the corner shop in her trackie and baseball cap combo to buy 50g of golden virginia and a copy of the daily star so it is no from me

exactly, sod not having the freedom to slob out from time to time.

PerfectlyPreservedQuagaarWarrior · 07/10/2022 17:24

Kind of like.... a roast chicken 😁

Thank you!

sammylady37 · 07/10/2022 17:28

threecupsofteaminimum · 07/10/2022 17:23

exactly, sod not having the freedom to slob out from time to time.

She has a lot more ‘freedom to slob out’ than most working people, given the hours she ‘works’.

PerfectlyPreservedQuagaarWarrior · 07/10/2022 17:31

This role model thing does my head in. Why do people need role models?

I agree, but that's partly why the comments in this thread about her being a role model, admirable etc are daft in themselves.

Precipice · 07/10/2022 17:36

"She's literally going to be Queen."

So what? That doesn't make someone lucky or admirable. I don't think anyone should be queen or king.

sammylady37 · 07/10/2022 17:38

derxa · 07/10/2022 17:13

She's in training for a life of meeting people in all walks of life from presidents to ordinary people. Knowing all about them and speaking appropriately and knowledgably at all times. Yesterday she was harangued in NI. That could all have gone horribly wrong. Her life and that of her family are in danger 24 hours a day.
You trained for a profession and do it well but you go home at the end of the day and it's over.
She's literally going to be Queen. You might be scathing about that because a certain brand of feminism seems to delight in denigrating other women's choices.

Knowing all about them and speaking appropriately and knowledgably at all times

She knows precious little about most/all of the people she meets on her walkabouts. She certainly doesn’t know ‘all about’ the more high profile people she meets, and what she does know about them will have been researched and presented to her by staff.
’Speaking appropriately and knowledgably at all times’ seems to consist of a lot of inane pleasantries such as ‘hello, lovely to see you, oh hello, how nice to see you’. Any speeches she gives will have been researched and written by others.

I wouldn’t call what happened in Belfast being ‘harangued’, I’d call it someone expressing an opinion which has its merits. She has been hailed here for how she ‘handled’ the situation, but all she did was smile and continue on her way. Hardly the height of diplomacy or grace.

She and her children have police protection because their lives are in danger. Lots of others live in danger without such protection.

Yes, I’m aware she’s ‘literally going to be Queen’, I’m really not sure why you felt it necessary to state the very obvious. I find it baffling that people think it’s appropriate someone hold such a position (or indeed any position) purely because of who their spouse is. Meritocracy would be much better than the current system of mediocrity.

But I do not think her current role is of much value, is an essential role or would be a significant loss if abolished. You, of course, will disagree, as you are entitled to.

derxa · 07/10/2022 17:39

Precipice · 07/10/2022 17:36

"She's literally going to be Queen."

So what? That doesn't make someone lucky or admirable. I don't think anyone should be queen or king.

Well that's the system we've got at the moment and Kate has chosen the role of future queen. That's it. I never said she was anything like the OP said (which was a bit of a piss take imo)

Thepeopleversuswork · 07/10/2022 17:41

@derxa

Her great grandmother in law was Head of State for 70 years.
This role model thing does my head in. Why do people need role models? Set a goal and get on with it.

Two things:

You need to “see it to be it”. Women need role models precisely because historically there have been so few women in positions of power or even control. It’s very hard to believe you can achieve something if other people who seem like you can’t do it.

Theres nothing intrinsically wrong with what Kate does but achieving what you have achieved only through marriage and childbirth hardly sends a signal to women that they can be independently successful.

Besides, the reason people are responding to the idea of her being a role model is precisely because the OP set this up by starting this thread.