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To think that JK Rowling is a lioness of epic proportions?

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WandaWomblesaurus · 05/10/2022 23:52

I don't think I'm being unreasonable. She's put everything out there to safeguard children in the face of vile misogyny and cowardice from many of her fellow writers.

She also always has beautiful hair.

NYANBU

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lifeturnsonadime · 06/10/2022 12:37

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How can we be educated when you refuse to answer our questions?

tellmewhentheLangshiplandscoz · 06/10/2022 12:37

still too busy being a 5 year old to actually engage Confused

lifeturnsonadime · 06/10/2022 12:38

I think it's going to be something like :

'well it's reality it's not my fault you old women don't believe it'.

or use google or something...

CrossStichQueen · 06/10/2022 12:38

Because you're really easy to insult and really hard to educate.

It's easy to insult anyone. All you have shown is your lack of education and basic comprehension.

You choose to insult others and refuse to answer very simple questions.
I get that you want some attention today and we have given it to you. I am pleased we have as I worry for people who show your level of desperation and always home any attention even negative will give you what you need even for a short time.

CatsandFish · 06/10/2022 12:39

figtrees · 06/10/2022 12:25

I hate unprogressive people, not middle aged women. Its just a demographic that seems to be especially intolerant and nasty but absolutely demand that they are all victims.

@figtrees Why do you think eradicating the achievements our foresister feminists achieved is 'progressive'?

You're not progressive. You are regressive.

figtrees · 06/10/2022 12:39

There are literally hundreds of trans voices online, who will answer all your questions.

If you can't be bothered to listen to them why should I rehash what they say here?

Go on YouTube and spend an afternoon watching videos.

PuntasticUsername · 06/10/2022 12:40

"you're really easy to insult and really hard to educate"

But you don't seem to have tried any education. You've got no answers for the many questions people have asked you.

One might almost think that you don't know what you think, or why you think it, or why people disagree with you. I don't think it's us who need more education.

CatsandFish · 06/10/2022 12:40

figtrees · 06/10/2022 12:27

If just one trans person reads this thread and realises somebody was on their side, its worth insulting all of you 10 fold.

@figtrees And if just one vulnerable woman, survivor or rape or Domestic Violence reads this thread and they see we support them when you hate them, it is worth rebutting your abhorrent hateful beliefs 100 fold.

TheKeatingFive · 06/10/2022 12:41

I hate unprogressive people

You're assuming that all 'progress' is positive. That's not the case when it hasn't been thought through, which applies here.

There's are conflicts between woman's rights and TRA desires. JKR has given that lots of thought. I'm guessing you haven't? 🤷‍♀️

FernPotts · 06/10/2022 12:41

Go on YouTube and spend an afternoon watching videos.

So you’re just having a laugh, then? ‘Go on YouTube’ is no way to get an education.
(Quite useful for plumbing videos, though.)

figtrees · 06/10/2022 12:42

@CatsandFish Stop telling all rape survivors they have to be transphobic. Stop telling all domestic violence victims they should be transphobic.....

Butitsnotfunnyisititsserious · 06/10/2022 12:42

FernPotts · 06/10/2022 12:41

Go on YouTube and spend an afternoon watching videos.

So you’re just having a laugh, then? ‘Go on YouTube’ is no way to get an education.
(Quite useful for plumbing videos, though.)

And IKEA how to videos!

SantaCarlaCalifornia · 06/10/2022 12:42

Which trans voices should we listen to? Is there a list?

Debbie Hayton?
Miranda Yardley?
Fionne Orlander?

Or are they the wrong type of trans?

If you can't formulate your own argument, have you ever thought that you might be wrong?

I don't need to watch a youtube video of an awkward teenager explaining why it's totally great to be trans to know that there's a lot wrong with the whole movement.

CatsandFish · 06/10/2022 12:42

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@figtrees Spoken like an ignorant and hateful incel.

Abouttoblow · 06/10/2022 12:43

figtrees · 06/10/2022 12:23

@PollyPaintsFlowers It's clearly upsetting you way more than it upsets me. I don't care about same sex toilets. I don't care who identifies as what gender. I don't care what somebody else's genitals look like.

I'm not throwing a tantrum because a minority might also be allowed rights. Boo hoo.

What rights should transpeople be allowed that they don't already have?

EdgeOfACoin · 06/10/2022 12:43

Watch videos...

Are you saying that you don't know how to answer our questions? And you're hoping some video out there will do it instead?

TheKeatingFive · 06/10/2022 12:43

And if just one vulnerable woman, survivor or rape or Domestic Violence reads this thread and they see we support them when you hate them, it is worth rebutting your abhorrent hateful beliefs 100 fold.

I keep coming back to this. Why don't these women count for those blindly supporting TRA demands? Is it just that low status women (as these women tend to be) don't matter to them?

Butitsnotfunnyisititsserious · 06/10/2022 12:43

SantaCarlaCalifornia · 06/10/2022 12:42

Which trans voices should we listen to? Is there a list?

Debbie Hayton?
Miranda Yardley?
Fionne Orlander?

Or are they the wrong type of trans?

If you can't formulate your own argument, have you ever thought that you might be wrong?

I don't need to watch a youtube video of an awkward teenager explaining why it's totally great to be trans to know that there's a lot wrong with the whole movement.

Apparently Caitlin Jenner is the wrong type of trans too.

BaileySharp · 06/10/2022 12:43

Love JKR! Always have but more than ever nowadays. I have a TW and a TM in my life, and they are nice people, I care about their wellbeing, but i just don't believe they have literally changed sex. Sorry. Present however your want but sex matters I'm afraid. I wish some things about myself were different but somethings you cannot change, and you just need to accept that.

ZandathePanda · 06/10/2022 12:44

I found, as a mother and a teacher, by the time young women and men got to sixth form and were taught to think critically, the gender ideology was seen as nonsense. It’s just the small ‘core’ group who shouted incessantly and vocally (that everyone else just smiled and nodded at) are the ones that everyone hears. Very few people believe in it it is that every realises this group will get very, very upset and so people pretend. Young people also realise it’s all a load of nonsense. But as you get older, and have more experience of what women have to put up with, and the fact the vocal minority can cause actual harm, it becomes more obvious you can’t ignore it.

TheKeatingFive · 06/10/2022 12:44

If you can't formulate your own argument, have you ever thought that you might be wrong?

I doubt she has actually

All of this is based on blind faith. Logic or reason never came into it.

CatsandFish · 06/10/2022 12:45

figtrees · 06/10/2022 12:39

There are literally hundreds of trans voices online, who will answer all your questions.

If you can't be bothered to listen to them why should I rehash what they say here?

Go on YouTube and spend an afternoon watching videos.

@figtrees Oh yes, youtube. The bastion of conspiracy theorists, right wing ignorance, anti-vaxxers and misogyny. You are truly embarrassing yourself. I'd feel sorry for you if you weren't so full of hate.

To think that JK Rowling is a lioness of epic proportions?
Abouttoblow · 06/10/2022 12:46

figtrees · 06/10/2022 12:31

I love it when mumsnet try to bate an argument by being willfully stupid and pretending they can't use Google. Strong feminism vibes from that.......

😅😂😂😂

"Don't ask me questions I can't answer."

EdgeOfACoin · 06/10/2022 12:46

In your view, what do all women and transwomen have in common that they don't have in common with any men or transmen? What is the defining characteristic (or characteristics) of a woman? I'd like to understand what it is that unites women and transwomen and means that they require separate spaces away from men and transmen.

My question(s). Again.

ShowerOfShite · 06/10/2022 12:47

She is an absolutely amazing woman.