To think that JK Rowling is a lioness of epic proportions?

[WandaWomblesaurus]

I don't think I'm being unreasonable. She's put everything out there to safeguard children in the face of vile misogyny and cowardice from many of her fellow writers.

She also always has beautiful hair.

NYANBU

YYABUTQ+

Progressive doesn't mean you stop believing in biology. Nor does it mean you start thinking womens rights can be trampled on. But as you mentioned rights, please expand what rights trans individuals do not have?

If just one trans person reads this thread and realises somebody was on their side, its worth insulting all of you 10 fold.

But you have a wonderful opportunity here to educate us.

Why don't you answer some of the questions that have been asked?

There are lots of lurkers who would be interested in the answers, even if you think it's pointless trying to get us to change our minds.

@figtrees what rights does that minority not have?

I believe it was one of your fellow TRAs that initially brought up genitals regarding checking them upon entrance to women's toilets. You lot are obsessed, you really are

And I'm not upset, I'm finding you and your misguided claims quite amusing 😁

What's progressive about -

Denying women and girls single sex spaces?

Calling lesbians bigots for rejecting penises?

Rejecting evidence based care for young people who identify as trans?

Putting sex offenders with penises who identify as trans being put in prison with women?

Asking women who have been raped to 'reframe their trauma' ?

@figtrees

Frankly, it's pretty clear from Yougov surveys that a majority of people in the U.K. do care what genitalia people have in situations like single sex provisions and sport.

Indeed, once many of your generation have grown up a bit, they will probably discover that many do have genital preferences and quite like single sex provision sometimes too. Too much internet, not enough real world.

I hate unprogressive people

What's progressive about denying same sex attraction?
Whats progressive about removing safeguarding for women and children?
What's progressive about forcing women to share spaces when in a state of undress with males?
What's progressive about allowing males to take sports places from women?

Please do show me how any of these are progressive fig

@figtrees She said trans people deserve rights and protections. How is that transphobic?

She hasn't been cancelled.

What is true, is that you are femphobic and bigoted. It is your misogynistic and hateful beliefs that are outdated. You, are the one on the wrong side of history. I feel sorry for you. You are ignorant and bigoted. And you are wrong. Your beliefs that women don't deserve basic human rights, are the ones that are out of touch.

I'm on heavy meds and thinking slower than I'd like to. Can anyone give me a quick summary of what JK has said? Thanks!!

Rather than just insult, why don't you answer and educate people as they've asked? Or have you got nothing of relevance to say so you have to resort to insults?

@figtrees Yes, women who believe women deserve basic civil human rights. You clearly don't believe that we deserve that. You are from a bygone misogynistic era. Thankfully your ignorant and hateful views are in the minority.

YABU. She's pure evil

As opposed to, I dunno, the dude in Thailand who just gunned down a nursery school?

Personally I think she's wonderful, she's bloody brave standing up to the shite that's going on - oh I know she's got the luxury of £££ behind her should she require legal support - but she is amazing even without that.

I don't really understand the 'everyone under 30 hates her' (paraphrased) - most ten year olds, mine included, are not wallowing in the cesspool of Twitter. They are reading Harry Potter and daydreaming about being witches and wizards!

I love it when mumsnet try to bate an argument by being willfully stupid and pretending they can't use Google. Strong feminism vibes from that.......

That is true. You have to manoeuvre your way through the large queue of under 30s waiting to get into the Harry Potter shop and pose by the luggage trolley at Platform 9 and 3 quarters to get to luggage storage and the toilets in Kings Cross Station. It's always heaving in that section of the station. The only time it was quiet there was just after the lockdown ended

I'm on heavy meds and thinking slower than I'd like to. Can anyone give me a quick summary of what JK has said? Thanks!!

India W said on Twitter that its about time JKR was sued possibly by mermaids....JKR replied if a petition was started to encourage Mermaids to do this JKR would be the first signature 😁

Why would you 'hate unprogressive people'? Seriously, why? That's not remotely kind and doesn't give the impression you've thought about it much.

My cousin's child is a transman, poor kid. Has the beard and mastectomy. And a dysfunctional background, and a gruff little teenage voice, and a very clearly female shape. I guess the beard might be briefly startling in the ladies' loos (she tends to hide in the disabled, from what I've seen) but everything else soon says 'female'.

I don't remotely hate her. I do think she's sadly likely to be in the cohort that will regret this radical solution to teenage angst.

But we're asking you. You clearly have nothing to back up your opinions or you'd answer the questions. Shows how little you bring to the discussion.

Of course. Of course you don't care about women having basic human dignity. MRAs/TRAs don't care about vulnerable women. We know that. Your side has made that abundantly clear. You have no empathy. You don't care that you would want rape survivors like me undressing in front of a naked man. It's clear through your ignorant and hateful posts that you don't care about basic human rights for women. You're a Mens Rights Activist. You hate women. That's clear.

If you're the one making the assertion, the burden of proof is on you. It's got nothing to do with feminism what a curiously odd thing to say.

use google for what?

You clearly don't want to answer our questions, own it.

If you aren't able to state specific examples of hate or transphobia then clearly your talking out of your backside.

Btw saying something which merely disagrees with your view of the world doesn't count.

The funny thing about old ageing feminists is that over history they are the old that Get Shit Done which makes life safer for biological women and girls - yep deliberately excluding non biological ones there - while young women are busy playing the Pick Me game and desperately trying not to stand out.

Well behaved (biological) women rarely make history

I went and bought the Strike books to support her after the torrent of abuse she received. I also emailed her office to tell her how grateful I was that she was standing up for women who are too scared to go against the ideology. Huge admirer here.

Would be interested to hear the answers to these questions but I'll hold my old ageing breath

Not really, it's just really hard for you to educate us because you have nothing of relevance.