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AIBU to expect a reply even though he wants space? (A long one)

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FlannelopePitstop · 04/10/2022 20:49

I've been with my DP about a year and a half, we are in our early/mid thirties. For the most part we have had a loving, fun, close and happy relationship and he feels like my best friend. I've got to know his family and friends well and our lives have become well integrated with one another's.

In the last couple of months, one of the slow-burning issues we have had for a while has come to a head. This mainly centres around the usual textbook case of that I prefer to cope by connecting, and he copes by disconnecting. So when we have had a tiff, he disappears, I feel abandoned and when he returns I'm anxious and critical. He then runs away some more. Ironically we only ever have a tiff if I feel invalidated or unheard, or he feels criticised. I also feel I carry much more of the mental load when it comes to making plans, holidays etc, and sometimes in those moments if I'm e.g. struggling to make a decision, I've yearned to feel like I have an equal adult partner rather than feeling alone with all the responsibility.

We came back from a difficult holiday in Sept - it got so bad at one point we decided to part ways one night and do our own thing for a bit of space. The next morning I realised he had left me in the city we were in and was some distance away heading back to our airport city in our hire car. I felt so abandoned and excruciatingly upset. Things got more stressful once we got back because he received news a family member only had a short while left to live. We made the decision to put our issues on the back burner for a bit to deal with that and I've tried to be a supportive presence to him and his family during a difficult time. Relative has since died and funeral is next week, which I know has upset him more than he is letting on.

Last week we had another big argument. I reached a breaking point because I wasn't feeling heard and he was getting defensive when I was trying to express that (although tbf I was shouting at this point) so I yelled at him to get the fuck out my house, leave his keys and to not come back. To be honest, I really just wanted him to acknowledge just how upset I was and what I desperately wanted was a hug and some reassurance and kindness but I wasn't getting that so I needed him out my space. It was the meanest thing I've ever said to him, I feel dreadful about it and I want to apologise for it. Unfortunately he took that to mean I was breaking up with him, so he packed his stuff out my house and left, even though before he left I said I hadn't meant that, I was just angry and upset. He went on radio silence following that, for 4 days, despite me contacting him later that night to say I would like for us to have a civil conversation, de-ecalate and find a way to reconnect.

Those 4 days were absolute hell, pure emotional torment. I called him on day 5 like wtf, we need to talk. So he came round that night, and had brought with him a bag of all my stuff, and when I say all, he had gutted his house out of every tiny thing of mine. I mean like random hair bobbles. I was totally blindsided but he was resolute we were breaking up and it was what he wanted. We then talked for a couple of hours about what had happened in our relationship, we apologised to each other for things and when I pointed out that it was ironic we were finally able to have a calm, considered, loving and attentive conversation, it was about breaking up, he acknowledged that but insisted we needed the time apart at least for a month to reassess how we feel. Which was different to what he originally said when he came in. But I was desperate for him not to walk away altogether so I agreed. We still have keys to each other's houses, and we left things with a cuddle and a kiss.

Today has been exactly one week since that night and we have had no contact. It has been an excruciatingly painful week. I feel lost, hurt, anxious, confused, upset, abandoned, angry and like the whole thing is just senseless. I don't think our issues were irreconcilable, and I think turning up with a bag of my stuff is brutal. I would love nothing more in the world than to hear from him and find a way to reconnect. Earlier today I did a brave thing and messaged him about something we had agreed we would do together and time is running out to arrange it. I said I'm going to make arrangements to do it as I'd like to, and it would be lovely if he joined but I understand if not, and just to let me know. I haven't had a reply.

I'm in tormented agony right now. I'm trying to keep on top of all the basics of self-care but I'm in hell. Each day that goes by, I don't know if I'm moving closer towards reconciliation or getting past a break up. The uncertainty and lack of clarity is breaking me. I know he will be anxious and fretful right now about how to reply so will be burying his head in the sand. I might have accidentally pushed him further away with that message, I don't know.

AIBU to expect one tiny shred of decency and care from a human being who I've shared my life with for the last year and a half and to get a reply?
Moreover, AIBU to say you don't need a month of silence to figure out if you want to attempt to reconcile with someone? I feel really desperate and don't know what the hell else to do here. I've had mixed advice from family and friends about waiting out the month, not waiting, waiting a bit, going round to his house, cutting him out altogether and every other option in between.

Thanks for reading, I appreciate that was long.

OP posts:
Butitsnotfunnyisititsserious · 05/10/2022 07:42

I just don't feel quite ready to start checking out of this relationship either.

He broke up with you, then agreed to a month because I'm guessing you didn't take that well. You message him after a week. Leave him alone. He clearly doesn't want to speak to you and wants time alone to think about his future and if he wants these arguments all the time.

Meltingsocks · 05/10/2022 07:57

I remember your post about him leaving you on holiday and everyone told you to never speak to him again. This relationship IS over and it WAS NOT adding anything to your life.

Pls take at least a year on your own to find your feet.

kingtamponthefurred · 05/10/2022 07:58

If you tell someone to get out and not come back, you should not be surprised if that is what he does.

FloydPepper · 05/10/2022 08:21

Can you be clearer about what happened on holiday.

he’s getting stick from some posters for abandoning you but your wording was quite careful. You said he’d gone to the airport city, not the airport. Was he just spending time not where you were? Did he actually fly home? I think you’ve carefully worded it to make him seem more unreasonable.

Baconking · 05/10/2022 08:27

Meltingsocks · 05/10/2022 07:57

I remember your post about him leaving you on holiday and everyone told you to never speak to him again. This relationship IS over and it WAS NOT adding anything to your life.

Pls take at least a year on your own to find your feet.

Are you sure it's the same OP?

caffelattetogo · 05/10/2022 09:47

Even if you got back together, you'd be forever chasing and he'd be forever running. It would eat away at you.
The right partner doesn't make you feel that way. Focus on finding someone who you are more compatible with.

GemmaEdKitten · 05/10/2022 10:14

You're getting a lot of stick here, but this man is clearly avoidently attached. Yes, you're anxiously attached and work on that because you've acknowledged you behaved poorly but it doesn't sound like he was great either. He stonewalled you, abandoned you, seemed to place all the blame on you and didn't attempt to resolve contact after 18 months of a relationship. I don't think "needing space" - especially when the other partner says that's something they struggle with after a conflict - is especially kind. Say instead "I love you, I don't want to end things but I need to have space for XX hours" instead. It is hard maintaining a relationship with a partner who is avoidently attached. Work on you and seek someone secure next time, even if they're not initially as exciting.

BlackberryCat · 05/10/2022 11:04

Maybe others have asked this but do you feel like he brings out the best in you?

It also sounds very dramatic and intense but I can’t help but feel you are feeding off that. It’s that cycle of him being emotionally unavailable and you chasing after him. Maybe you are addicted to that emotional up and down.

Ultimately, I think you both know this isn’t a healthy relationship. You would be wise to follow this lead and break up.

MichelleScarn · 05/10/2022 11:09

@GemmaEdKitten why have you diagnosed him as 'avoidantly attached' op shouted at him to 'fuck off, get out of her house and give her keys back' he's done this and its wrong to have done this?

GemmaEdKitten · 05/10/2022 11:37

This...

I prefer to cope by connecting, and he copes by disconnecting. So when we have had a tiff, he disappears, I feel abandoned and when he returns I'm anxious and critical. He then runs away some more. Ironically we only ever have a tiff if I feel invalidated or unheard, or he feels criticised

It sounds like the anxious/avoident dance, taking away the big blowout which led to the breakout.

GemmaEdKitten · 05/10/2022 11:47

And, sorry, I'm going on. You can't work on him. He is largely irrelevant. But you can work on you. Why you reacted like you did, what you did wrong and what you would have done differently. And consider what you what in a relationship and what your boundaries are. I don't mean 6ft, doctor etc. I mean "he must be emotionally available", "he must be kind". And when you next enter a relationship express them clearly from the outset.

BadNomad · 05/10/2022 11:48

this man is clearly avoidently attached

I don't think that is clear at all. The OP says their relationship is normally "loving, fun, close and happy" and their lives have integrated well. They just have a different approach to conflict. She's rather stand and scream at him then hug after. For him, he's rather not stand and be screamed at. I don't know many people who would tbh.

GemmaEdKitten · 05/10/2022 11:52

BadNomad · 05/10/2022 11:48

this man is clearly avoidently attached

I don't think that is clear at all. The OP says their relationship is normally "loving, fun, close and happy" and their lives have integrated well. They just have a different approach to conflict. She's rather stand and scream at him then hug after. For him, he's rather not stand and be screamed at. I don't know many people who would tbh.

It's not so much this as the lead up to be honest. The disconnecting after conflict. I don't think that's especially healthy or indictive of a secure attachment, although I do accept of course I don't know the ins- and-outs xx

I prefer to cope by connecting, and he copes by disconnecting. So when we have had a tiff, he disappears, I feel abandoned and when he returns I'm anxious and critical. He then runs away some more. Ironically we only ever have a tiff if I feel invalidated or unheard, or he feels criticised

Menora · 05/10/2022 11:53

I would just let him go. You can’t make him come back to you

AccountDeactivated · 05/10/2022 11:55

The only reason for a relationship to exist is that it’s meant to be fun, it’s meant to enhance your life. That’s it.
Absolutely no need for that essay of drama and anguish. Enjoy life.

GreenFingersWouldBeHandy · 05/10/2022 11:55

So when we have had a tiff, he disappears, I feel abandoned and when he returns I'm anxious and critical. He then runs away some more. Ironically we only ever have a tiff if I feel invalidated or unheard, or he feels criticised

How many 'tiffs' are you having, 18 months in?

It does sound as if you have broken up but you haven't realised yet.

AccountDeactivated · 05/10/2022 11:56

(I mean there’s no need for the theatrics that lead to you typing out that essay)

AccountDeactivated · 05/10/2022 12:02

’so I yelled at him to get the fuck out my house, leave his keys and to not come back…….Unfortunately he took that to mean I was breaking up with him, so he packed his stuff out my house’

he’s doing as you yelled. Good for him. Live your life in a way that you don’t shout at people or indulge in emotional theatrics.

DinaofCloud9 · 05/10/2022 12:04

If someone screamed at me to get out if their house then I'd be gone forever.

It sounds like a terrible relationship.

MichelleScarn · 05/10/2022 12:06

GreenFingersWouldBeHandy · 05/10/2022 11:55

So when we have had a tiff, he disappears, I feel abandoned and when he returns I'm anxious and critical. He then runs away some more. Ironically we only ever have a tiff if I feel invalidated or unheard, or he feels criticised

How many 'tiffs' are you having, 18 months in?

It does sound as if you have broken up but you haven't realised yet.

So you have a 'tiff' and he goes away, when he comes back you're not exactly nice 'anxious and critcial' how does that come across? So expecting him to put up with you yelling fuck off, throwing him out of the house, being critical, bit if he's doesn't want to hug and be all cosy when you decide its time, he's bad?

Musti · 05/10/2022 12:09

i wouldn’t be compatible with a man like that. He runs away when there is a disagreement, including leaving you in a city on holiday taking the hire car with him. That’s a shitty thing to do.

I’ve recently come out of a relationship. A good guy in many ways, there were some things that I didn’t like but I ignored because no one is perfect. However, he couldn’t do the same for me. His pathetic reply made me lose all feelings for him instantly. So I am glad it came to a head and I didn’t waste any more time wondering whether I should stay with him or not.

It is human to not want to change regardless of whether it is good for you or not. Our brain keeps us wanting things to stay the same but after a while, once we see that life is good/better, those feelings go.

The man didn’t want to comfort you or discuss things with you. That’s no way to live.

BadNomad · 05/10/2022 12:10

To me, it sounds like he was done last month after the holiday fiasco. Stranding someone without a car is major. That's not just a tiff. But I think getting home then finding out his relative is dying probably put breaking up on the back burner for him, until she forced the issue. They just don't sound very compatible. She clearly has a lot of anxiety and high requirements from a partner that he really isn't able to meet.

Royalbloo · 05/10/2022 12:11

It's not a functioning relationship. Move on.

MichelleScarn · 05/10/2022 12:12

Has op actually confirmed if she was 'stranded' on holiday, or was it as planned that they separated for the day? There's a HUGE difference between them!

BadNomad · 05/10/2022 12:15

Has op actually confirmed if she was 'stranded' on holiday, or was it as planned that they separated for the day? There's a HUGE difference between them!

He went to the airport with their hire car. I'd say that was leaving her stranded.

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