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AIBU to expect a reply even though he wants space? (A long one)

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FlannelopePitstop · 04/10/2022 20:49

I've been with my DP about a year and a half, we are in our early/mid thirties. For the most part we have had a loving, fun, close and happy relationship and he feels like my best friend. I've got to know his family and friends well and our lives have become well integrated with one another's.

In the last couple of months, one of the slow-burning issues we have had for a while has come to a head. This mainly centres around the usual textbook case of that I prefer to cope by connecting, and he copes by disconnecting. So when we have had a tiff, he disappears, I feel abandoned and when he returns I'm anxious and critical. He then runs away some more. Ironically we only ever have a tiff if I feel invalidated or unheard, or he feels criticised. I also feel I carry much more of the mental load when it comes to making plans, holidays etc, and sometimes in those moments if I'm e.g. struggling to make a decision, I've yearned to feel like I have an equal adult partner rather than feeling alone with all the responsibility.

We came back from a difficult holiday in Sept - it got so bad at one point we decided to part ways one night and do our own thing for a bit of space. The next morning I realised he had left me in the city we were in and was some distance away heading back to our airport city in our hire car. I felt so abandoned and excruciatingly upset. Things got more stressful once we got back because he received news a family member only had a short while left to live. We made the decision to put our issues on the back burner for a bit to deal with that and I've tried to be a supportive presence to him and his family during a difficult time. Relative has since died and funeral is next week, which I know has upset him more than he is letting on.

Last week we had another big argument. I reached a breaking point because I wasn't feeling heard and he was getting defensive when I was trying to express that (although tbf I was shouting at this point) so I yelled at him to get the fuck out my house, leave his keys and to not come back. To be honest, I really just wanted him to acknowledge just how upset I was and what I desperately wanted was a hug and some reassurance and kindness but I wasn't getting that so I needed him out my space. It was the meanest thing I've ever said to him, I feel dreadful about it and I want to apologise for it. Unfortunately he took that to mean I was breaking up with him, so he packed his stuff out my house and left, even though before he left I said I hadn't meant that, I was just angry and upset. He went on radio silence following that, for 4 days, despite me contacting him later that night to say I would like for us to have a civil conversation, de-ecalate and find a way to reconnect.

Those 4 days were absolute hell, pure emotional torment. I called him on day 5 like wtf, we need to talk. So he came round that night, and had brought with him a bag of all my stuff, and when I say all, he had gutted his house out of every tiny thing of mine. I mean like random hair bobbles. I was totally blindsided but he was resolute we were breaking up and it was what he wanted. We then talked for a couple of hours about what had happened in our relationship, we apologised to each other for things and when I pointed out that it was ironic we were finally able to have a calm, considered, loving and attentive conversation, it was about breaking up, he acknowledged that but insisted we needed the time apart at least for a month to reassess how we feel. Which was different to what he originally said when he came in. But I was desperate for him not to walk away altogether so I agreed. We still have keys to each other's houses, and we left things with a cuddle and a kiss.

Today has been exactly one week since that night and we have had no contact. It has been an excruciatingly painful week. I feel lost, hurt, anxious, confused, upset, abandoned, angry and like the whole thing is just senseless. I don't think our issues were irreconcilable, and I think turning up with a bag of my stuff is brutal. I would love nothing more in the world than to hear from him and find a way to reconnect. Earlier today I did a brave thing and messaged him about something we had agreed we would do together and time is running out to arrange it. I said I'm going to make arrangements to do it as I'd like to, and it would be lovely if he joined but I understand if not, and just to let me know. I haven't had a reply.

I'm in tormented agony right now. I'm trying to keep on top of all the basics of self-care but I'm in hell. Each day that goes by, I don't know if I'm moving closer towards reconciliation or getting past a break up. The uncertainty and lack of clarity is breaking me. I know he will be anxious and fretful right now about how to reply so will be burying his head in the sand. I might have accidentally pushed him further away with that message, I don't know.

AIBU to expect one tiny shred of decency and care from a human being who I've shared my life with for the last year and a half and to get a reply?
Moreover, AIBU to say you don't need a month of silence to figure out if you want to attempt to reconcile with someone? I feel really desperate and don't know what the hell else to do here. I've had mixed advice from family and friends about waiting out the month, not waiting, waiting a bit, going round to his house, cutting him out altogether and every other option in between.

Thanks for reading, I appreciate that was long.

OP posts:
ZealAndArdour · 05/10/2022 02:33

What you do is take the power away from him and tell him it’s over completely, no break required. This is not a healthy dynamic, you haven’t been happy with the communication dynamics for a long time, all of the mental load is left to you and he is behaving most cruelly.

I broke up with my partner of four years on Thursday after 18 months of pontificating and time wasting. Our issues were quite similar. I do not hate my partner or anything like that, but you don’t want to be as far down the line as I am, still carrying all your unmet needs along with your and feeling even more emotionally responsible for his well-being at the expense of your own.

None of what you’re asking for is unreasonable, but he is choosing not to provide it or work on himself. He is prioritising his emotionally immature status quo at your huge expense. It’s time to end the relationship properly.

melchim · 05/10/2022 03:03

Please don't get back together or even hope for it! You're completely unsuited for each other, even if you're both lovely people.

Qwerkie · 05/10/2022 03:34

For me it would have been over when he took the hire car and left you alone in the city. I couldn’t ever be ok with that.

one day you’ll find a bloke who makes you feel secure and loved. Not this guy who pulls away and abandons you at the first sign of conflict

ChagSameachDoreen · 05/10/2022 03:44

Get a grip and let him go. You don't sound compatible at all.

MaybeIWillFuckOffThen · 05/10/2022 05:53

You sound like the most astonishing drama lama with your therapised use of language, your totally horrendous temper tantrum, and all this "in hell" melodrama over someone you've only been with 18months. To be honest he's just lost his relative, I imagine that is very hard for someone now very emotionally articulate to process, and here's you cussing him out and expecting him to make you feel "heard". I imagine he has fallen out of love with you due to the inappropriate timing of your behaviour. I would have.

For what it's worth he doesn't sound all that great either and you don't sound compatible. Decide for yourself that you are broken up and move on.

Squidlydoo · 05/10/2022 05:59

I just wanted to add - you sound like a good person. Relationships that don’t meet our needs generally make us act differently. You describe yourself as chilled but the incidents you’re describing here do not sound like a chilled person. This doesn’t mean you are wrong - but it does mean this man is wrong for you!

The right guy will come along and make you feel safe and your chilled side will come to the forefront.

As others have said, take back the power and end this relationship (it sounds like he has already checked out and you are justbtornenting yourself!

focus on yourself, friends and family through this time!

Noteverybodylives · 05/10/2022 06:10

Relationships and your partner should bring you peace.

It sounds like you’ve brought each other nothing but stress.

KangFang · 05/10/2022 06:17

It's over. Move on.

Ponoka7 · 05/10/2022 06:17

@FlannelopePitstop it's taken until my 50's to be able to ask for what I need in a relationship. If I was your counselor I'd want to know were those feelings of abandonment came from. Likewise your aggressive response to not getting a hug etc and not being able to verbally express what you need because of how you are feeling. There's usually something floating around from childhood, even if it's been buried. I grew up in volatile circumstances. It took me a while to realise that aggression makes people fully withdraw. I knew how I felt but how I behaved was in complete contrast, so of course it led to a partner walking away. If my adult DD's were asking for advice, I'd be telling them to go on actions, not words. I don't think that you are compatible. I agree that him going off to the airport was dreadful behaviour. This relationship isn't as big a loss as you think.

Ponoka7 · 05/10/2022 06:22

Also I agree that eighteen months in you should still be having fun. It's no time at all really and if there are issues more people should split than ever do. They just continue to live in misery. Read the thread on 'what don't you miss about your ex' I'm baffled why women put up with that shit.

Lindy2 · 05/10/2022 06:33

Moreover, AIBU to say you don't need a month of silence to figure out if you want to attempt to reconcile with someone?

I'd say he's decided that he doesn't want reconciliation and his actions, for quite a while, have been showing that.

Stop hanging on to a false hope that this will work out. It's time to move on OP and I think, in the longer term, you'll be happier without him. The relationship isn't giving what you need.

Whataretheodds · 05/10/2022 06:33

Sisisimone · 04/10/2022 21:05

I wouldn't have spoken to him again after he'd left me on holiday and gone back to the airport. He sounds an asshole and I imagine once you have time to get over the break up you'll realise you're well rid.

I thought this too.

Get a session with a different therapist and move his stuff out of your line of sight. (jacket, shoes, etc. Cover up up his bike).
You said:
i also agree that if we ever were to consider getting back together we would need to compromise and do a fair bit of work

Do the work now, on yourself. What are you waiting for?

outtheshowernow · 05/10/2022 06:37

No it's nothing to do with decency or care he is entitled not to reply and you need to move on so no contact is the only way.

Hearthnhome · 05/10/2022 06:48

FlannelopePitstop · 05/10/2022 01:09

Thank you for your kind words. I'm reading each reply that is saying it's over and trying hard to absorb it but there's still that tiny bit of me that's resisting and refusing to believe and accept that. I'm so upset right now. I just can't get my head around how different this feels to a month ago. I don't understand how it goes from one day being in each other's lives to one day just gone. I'm thinking of him and he still feels like my partner, we share things and we work through things and we see each other most days and we talk about our days and we plan what we are doing at the weekend. Where the hell has he gone and how did that happen so fast. His profile pic is still a picture of both of us, his shoes are still in my living room, his keys are still in the key bowl, his jacket is still hung up on the back of my door, his bike is still in my shed.
If I could turn back time I would do so many things differently. God this is awful. I've had breakups before, usually been pretty civilised although hard, but not this hard. This is a whole other level of crap.

This is a whole other level of crap, because the relationship is a whole other level of crap. Or are you saying all your relationships like this?

Why would you consider getting back together? You say you have never screamed like you screamed at him? Does that seem like a good relationship? Is that what you want?

Fact is there’s fault on both sides. It’s a shit show. Pack his stuff up and drop it on his doorstep.

If you do get back together you just have more of this shit to look forward to.

Tuilpmouse · 05/10/2022 06:49

OP. This relationship really isn't working out, and I think you need to spend this time apart from him to reconcile yourself to that fact and recognise that the relationship needs to end - practically speaking it has all but ended by the sounds of it. If you force it to continue (and he does too) you'll be miserable until it does end. Please don't be one of those couples that persist for years, wasting their lives, simply because they're not brave enough to end things.

Tuilpmouse · 05/10/2022 06:56

.... and all this "in hell" melodrama over someone you've only been with 18months.

18 months is more than long enough to fall in love and develop very strong attachment to someone. In fact, if you're "meh" about someone after 18 months then you're not in a good relationship at all.

LetHimHaveIt · 05/10/2022 06:59

Shit me. Must everyone talk like a third-rate therapist these days? 'Excruciating'; 'tormented'; 'abandoned'; 'yearned'.

UnderCoverFieldAgent · 05/10/2022 07:01

I think you need to accept that, when a bloke says ‘let’s leave this XX amount of time’, they actually mean ‘it’s over but I’m too cowardly to say it to your face so I’m going to string you along for a bit’. If he wanted to go to that event, he’d have text back ASAP, absolutely delighted that you’d been in touch. Sadly, the silence if deafening and you need to listen. Take this time to carry on with your self-care and find someone more deserving of you. Block him everywhere and delete all texts/WhatsApp messages etc so you aren’t tempted to agonise over them.

GreenFingersWouldBeHandy · 05/10/2022 07:02

After a year and a half? You're still only just getting to know each other.

You don't sound compatible at all.

I think leave it and save your energy for someone else.

Paq · 05/10/2022 07:09

It sounds like you are in love with a version of him you would like him to be rather than the real him. If you are already carrying the mental load it will get 1000 times worse should you live with him, have children etc. Count yourself lucky he's given you an escape route.

Tuilpmouse · 05/10/2022 07:15

GreenFingersWouldBeHandy · 05/10/2022 07:02

After a year and a half? You're still only just getting to know each other.

You don't sound compatible at all.

I think leave it and save your energy for someone else.

I see this quite a bit on MN, and I really don't get it.

If you're 18 months into a relationship, you shouldn't "only just be getting to know each other". You should know each other really very well by that point.

And if not, it either implies that you're not being yourselves around each other, which isn't healthy at all in a relationship, especially one that's 18 months in, or you've kept your relationship superficial over the time and are in more of a FWB arrangement than a couple.

Baconking · 05/10/2022 07:23

Hi OP,

Can you clarify the story about the holiday?
Did he leave for the airport with no way of you getting there or did he just use the car to visit another city (which also had an airport) while you were having a day apart and then return?

I keep seeing people saying you were stranded but I didn't read it that way. I assume you could walk around the city you were in having a day to yourself?

Shmithecat2 · 05/10/2022 07:33

I'm sorry OP, but I think it's already over for him and the months 'break' was a way for him to leave you on less traumatic terms. You should move forward as if its over too.

MichelleScarn · 05/10/2022 07:37

Baconking · 05/10/2022 07:23

Hi OP,

Can you clarify the story about the holiday?
Did he leave for the airport with no way of you getting there or did he just use the car to visit another city (which also had an airport) while you were having a day apart and then return?

I keep seeing people saying you were stranded but I didn't read it that way. I assume you could walk around the city you were in having a day to yourself?

Agree with this and what happened in lead up, was it another 'fuck off forever out of my life' moment?

Mombie2016 · 05/10/2022 07:38

Are you dating my ex husband? Because this is the exact shit he would pull. Right down to the disappearing and coming back when I was in crisis to “rescue” me and had we ever gone abroad, he probably would have done the same. It’s classic abuse tactics.

You don’t want to be with a man who would abandon you in a foreign country for fucks sake.

Stay away from him, speak to Women’s Aid.