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AIBU to expect a reply even though he wants space? (A long one)

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FlannelopePitstop · 04/10/2022 20:49

I've been with my DP about a year and a half, we are in our early/mid thirties. For the most part we have had a loving, fun, close and happy relationship and he feels like my best friend. I've got to know his family and friends well and our lives have become well integrated with one another's.

In the last couple of months, one of the slow-burning issues we have had for a while has come to a head. This mainly centres around the usual textbook case of that I prefer to cope by connecting, and he copes by disconnecting. So when we have had a tiff, he disappears, I feel abandoned and when he returns I'm anxious and critical. He then runs away some more. Ironically we only ever have a tiff if I feel invalidated or unheard, or he feels criticised. I also feel I carry much more of the mental load when it comes to making plans, holidays etc, and sometimes in those moments if I'm e.g. struggling to make a decision, I've yearned to feel like I have an equal adult partner rather than feeling alone with all the responsibility.

We came back from a difficult holiday in Sept - it got so bad at one point we decided to part ways one night and do our own thing for a bit of space. The next morning I realised he had left me in the city we were in and was some distance away heading back to our airport city in our hire car. I felt so abandoned and excruciatingly upset. Things got more stressful once we got back because he received news a family member only had a short while left to live. We made the decision to put our issues on the back burner for a bit to deal with that and I've tried to be a supportive presence to him and his family during a difficult time. Relative has since died and funeral is next week, which I know has upset him more than he is letting on.

Last week we had another big argument. I reached a breaking point because I wasn't feeling heard and he was getting defensive when I was trying to express that (although tbf I was shouting at this point) so I yelled at him to get the fuck out my house, leave his keys and to not come back. To be honest, I really just wanted him to acknowledge just how upset I was and what I desperately wanted was a hug and some reassurance and kindness but I wasn't getting that so I needed him out my space. It was the meanest thing I've ever said to him, I feel dreadful about it and I want to apologise for it. Unfortunately he took that to mean I was breaking up with him, so he packed his stuff out my house and left, even though before he left I said I hadn't meant that, I was just angry and upset. He went on radio silence following that, for 4 days, despite me contacting him later that night to say I would like for us to have a civil conversation, de-ecalate and find a way to reconnect.

Those 4 days were absolute hell, pure emotional torment. I called him on day 5 like wtf, we need to talk. So he came round that night, and had brought with him a bag of all my stuff, and when I say all, he had gutted his house out of every tiny thing of mine. I mean like random hair bobbles. I was totally blindsided but he was resolute we were breaking up and it was what he wanted. We then talked for a couple of hours about what had happened in our relationship, we apologised to each other for things and when I pointed out that it was ironic we were finally able to have a calm, considered, loving and attentive conversation, it was about breaking up, he acknowledged that but insisted we needed the time apart at least for a month to reassess how we feel. Which was different to what he originally said when he came in. But I was desperate for him not to walk away altogether so I agreed. We still have keys to each other's houses, and we left things with a cuddle and a kiss.

Today has been exactly one week since that night and we have had no contact. It has been an excruciatingly painful week. I feel lost, hurt, anxious, confused, upset, abandoned, angry and like the whole thing is just senseless. I don't think our issues were irreconcilable, and I think turning up with a bag of my stuff is brutal. I would love nothing more in the world than to hear from him and find a way to reconnect. Earlier today I did a brave thing and messaged him about something we had agreed we would do together and time is running out to arrange it. I said I'm going to make arrangements to do it as I'd like to, and it would be lovely if he joined but I understand if not, and just to let me know. I haven't had a reply.

I'm in tormented agony right now. I'm trying to keep on top of all the basics of self-care but I'm in hell. Each day that goes by, I don't know if I'm moving closer towards reconciliation or getting past a break up. The uncertainty and lack of clarity is breaking me. I know he will be anxious and fretful right now about how to reply so will be burying his head in the sand. I might have accidentally pushed him further away with that message, I don't know.

AIBU to expect one tiny shred of decency and care from a human being who I've shared my life with for the last year and a half and to get a reply?
Moreover, AIBU to say you don't need a month of silence to figure out if you want to attempt to reconcile with someone? I feel really desperate and don't know what the hell else to do here. I've had mixed advice from family and friends about waiting out the month, not waiting, waiting a bit, going round to his house, cutting him out altogether and every other option in between.

Thanks for reading, I appreciate that was long.

OP posts:
SpeckofDustUponMySoul · 04/10/2022 21:49

Bloody hell, this post was akin to the intensity of 'Wuthering Heights'.
OP, you weren't 'brave' to message this guy; you broke a boundary that he put in place.
It sounds like too much drama for a relationship of only 18 months' duration.
The intensity of the emotions you describe as experiencing sound quite full on and unhealthy.

Readaboutyourself · 04/10/2022 21:50

You should have to consider ‘reconciling’ after 18 months. This should be bliss… the fun time.

Reading your post, you’re not compatible. Put all your energy into closure and finding a new life for yourself without him.

user6363 · 04/10/2022 21:51

I have empathy because you sound like me if I like someone enough and also just allow myself to behave how I want to without any consideration for their feelings when I’m angry. So like, when I was 19/20.

You screamed at him to fuck off and get out of your house and never come back and you’re blindsided that he essentially did?

You have to see that this is not an ok relationship because if you’re saying that and expecting him to be ok with it, that indicates it’s gone past acceptable in my opinion.

Ladybug14 · 04/10/2022 21:56

You sound needy, emotional and difficult

He sounds as though he copes with you and with life, by shutting off and walking away

You're totally incompatible

He's ended the relationship but is easing you out slowly

Imo you need therapy to help you grow a bit as a person before you embark on your next relationship

thecatsthecats · 04/10/2022 21:56

I want to break up with you and I've never met you.

Forget the ins and outs of the arguments and behaviour - that is a massive deal of psychoanalysis, and it sounds exhausting. I could not live with someone who analysed their own NEEDS and FEELINGS all the time, without ever really coming to the point. And your post really does read all "me me me" - even the way he reacts and feels are framed in how they affect you.

In the next relationship (do not resume this one), try to deal in the immediate facts, not overanalysis.

CatchYouOnTheFlippetyFlop · 04/10/2022 21:56

Invalidated, unheard, emotional torment. It all sounds very intense and dramatic for an 18 month relationship.

Cut your losses. You can't respect his boundaries and he dumped you on holiday.

Not exactly the beginning of a Mills and Boon romance, no matter how much flowery language you dress it up in.

1FootInTheRave · 04/10/2022 21:57

It's over.

Alliswells · 04/10/2022 22:03

You've been trying to mould this person and the relationship into what you want.
It is never going to work.

Nothing should be this hard and nothing is worth the shit show you've described.

Oysterbabe · 04/10/2022 22:06

This relationship is dead.
Mental load? It's been 18 months, you don't live together. What mental load?
This is the easy and fun part of a relationship. How do think it will be when you throw a couple of kids and oppressive mortgage into the mix?
Walk away. He already has.

Cw112 · 04/10/2022 22:10

This sounds toxic and like its working for neither of you. You need to learn how to communicate your needs and also how to respect his needs at the same time.

If someone left me in a foreign city and headed for the airport then I'd have been finished at that point tbh I think that's really out of order to not care about your safety for a start. But clearly it was a bad fight.

I would respect his need for space because that's specifically what he's asked you for and you not giving him space has clearly escalated things in the past. However I think you need to prepare for him coming back to you and saying he wants to end things.

I think your best plan of action here is really thinking about what you've learnt from this experience, what you actually want from a healthy relationship going forwards and if this one can actually become that or if you need to find that elsewhere.

You both deserve to be happy and feel respected and right now you're both disrespecting each others needs so you both need to be willing to address that otherwise you're both on a road to nowhere. Invest more in yourself this month and other friends and try not to contact him .

namechangedembarrassing · 04/10/2022 22:12

You seem to need a lot more from this relationship than he is willing/able to give. From how upset your are it seems a unrepairable incompatibility so maybe it really would be best to move on.

Unicorn2022 · 04/10/2022 22:14

He has split up with you OP. He suggested the month to buy some time in the hope that some of your desperation and intensity would have diminished by then. There won't be a reconciliation.

Honestly, this is not the relationship for either of you, it shouldn't be like this after 18 months.

Nandocushion · 04/10/2022 22:18

MichelleScarn · 04/10/2022 21:43

What happened around the holiday to make the fall put so Spectacular? Did either of you tell the other to fuck off and leave?

This. Honestly I didn't really get what happened on holiday - were you parting ways for the rest of holiday? Or just one night or? - but the part that stood out for me was this:

I yelled at him to get the fuck out my house, leave his keys and to not come back

Unfortunately he took that to mean I was breaking up with him

Well, yeah. You did break up with him, because there's no way that could mean anything else. You might want backsies now, but he clearly doesn't, so you need to leave him alone.

And - just in case you were thinking this - at the end of the month period, you aren't going to run romantically into each other's arms redeclaring your undying love for each other. You aren't compatible.

LikeTearsInRain · 04/10/2022 22:21

You sound like hard work OP. At least for him.

Find someone else where it isn’t all so dramatic for you

Herejustforthisone · 04/10/2022 22:37

This sounds miserable as shit. I don’t really blame him for not contacting you, you told him to fuck off out of your house and you seem to do nothing but argue.

MytummydontjigglejiggleItfolds · 04/10/2022 22:37

*I yelled at him to get the fuck out my house, leave his keys and to not come back

Unfortunately he took that to mean I was breaking up with him*

Well yes. Or he took that as a reason to break up with you. Consider what his options are - he either comes back after that and accepts that as something that will happen in a relationship with you, or he decides he doesn't want to be treated that way and ends things.

I'm sorry your emotions are running the show at the moment, it's a difficult place to be. I think once the intensity pops you will probably move on from this quite quickly, and you'll see things differently.

It's hard letting go of what you hoped and really admitting to and sitting with the disappointment, but it's the only way through.

It isn't what you want it to be OP, but that means it's better to let it go, you'll be ok.

1ittlegreen · 04/10/2022 22:41

I'm so sorry to be harsh but from your post I'm getting the impression that you thought a potential social engagement you had previously discussed when you were together trumps grieving over a relative and wanting space.

I've been in the same position as you and the more desperate you get the more they back the fuck off.

If you have any shred of hope of him coming back to you then put his needs and wishes first and leave him alone.

You probably know deep down if you will hear from him again or not. It might not be the end of the road but it certainly will be if you pester him.

Do you honestly think he gives a toss about booking whatever it was you had previously discussed when you were in a better place? It probably seems completely irrelevant to him now.

If you don't hear from him again then he doesn't want to be with you so keep your dignity and work on getting over him.

You also mention that you wanted to apologise to him for the awful thing you said which suggests you haven't yet. I really hope you get some closure for yourself in the weeks to come and that he gives you the chance to at least apologise properly.

It will get better, if not by Christmas then by spring. When you see the bulbs start to come out I guarantee you will feel better than you do now 💐

Jedsnewstar · 04/10/2022 22:44

A year and a half is relatively short relationship, you haven’t really shared a life. It sounds exhausting for such a short time.
It shouldn’t be this hard.

FlannelopePitstop · 04/10/2022 22:46

Some harsh truths here and I've had my arse handed to me on a plate, but I weirdly appreciate it. I have clearly been too intense and demanding, especially during what was already a difficult time. The thing that's helpful here is the concensus that I need to back off and leave him be.

I feel less anxious now but a whole heap more regret, which is tough in a different way. He was a good guy and I was so busy making demands I'm not sure I paused enough to really appreciate him. I'm just really sad about the whole thing.

OP posts:
Downtown123 · 04/10/2022 22:47

He done as you asked (or screamed) and you seem like hard work

Sisisimone · 04/10/2022 22:53

He was a good guy and I was so busy making demands I'm not sure I paused enough to really appreciate him
It doesn't sound like that to me at all. Someone who leaves their girlfriend stranded on holiday and fucks off to the airport without a word is not a 'good guy' and not someone who anyone would want to be with long term. Don't be so hard on yourself. You weren't compatible, onwards and upwards!

AnneLovesGilbert · 04/10/2022 22:53

It’s okay to be sad. It’s not okay to contact him again. Focus on anything else, work, hobbies, friends, family, spend time in fresh air, do some exercise. Try and move forward in acceptance.

Don’t use the responses on here to turn your panic into self flagellating. You can accept your part in the end of the relationship without wallowing.

It'll be okay. It will.

SteveHarringtonsChestHair · 04/10/2022 22:54

I spent nine years in a relationship like this. My head knew it was a mess, but my heart loved him and couldn’t let him go. The bloody rollercoaster finally ended last year and it nearly broke me. But coming up to 10 months later I’m feeling happier than ever and just about to “get back on the horse” with a new man.

There are literally billions of men out there. You don’t need to settle for one who makes you feel unseen and unheard. No matter how lovely he is the rest of the time, he is making you anxious and insecure. You don’t need this crap in your life. I can honestly say that finally I am happier alone than with my ex. Yea I miss the sex bit, but I don’t miss the crazy making to-ing and fro-ing and never knowing where I stood.

SteveHarringtonsChestHair · 04/10/2022 22:55

Sisisimone · 04/10/2022 22:53

He was a good guy and I was so busy making demands I'm not sure I paused enough to really appreciate him
It doesn't sound like that to me at all. Someone who leaves their girlfriend stranded on holiday and fucks off to the airport without a word is not a 'good guy' and not someone who anyone would want to be with long term. Don't be so hard on yourself. You weren't compatible, onwards and upwards!

Absolutely 100% this too

Andypandy799 · 04/10/2022 22:55

Sounds like he’s over all the fighting and use the time to grieve the loss of what you dreamed of having in a partner. Then you can realise that what you wanted or had was not right for either of you. Sorry

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