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To ask if you have stopped paying your TV Licence?

227 replies

GodDamnITBarbs · 03/10/2022 11:34

Basically that?
I understand a lot of people have just stopped paying.

OP posts:
unitywardrobe · 03/10/2022 12:36

I filled in the online declaration and no longer pay. I only ever watch programmes via streaming services or catch up and I can't remember the last time I watched anything on the BBC.

I know quite a few people who've done the same. I think the TV licence will be defunct long before the charter is up for renewal

gatehouseoffleet · 03/10/2022 12:36

Lolliepoppie · 03/10/2022 12:35

I was thinking about it, but was really impressed by their coverage on the Queen and funeral. They redeemed themselves in my eyes and it reminded me why I pay my license fee

We turned over to ITV as the BBC commentators couldn't shut up. But maybe they improved later on.

ivykaty44 · 03/10/2022 12:36

I haven’t had a tv for 12/13 years so don’t need a tv licence

StarsQuitShining · 03/10/2022 12:37

SpinningFloppa · 03/10/2022 12:20

I don’t pay as I don’t watch live tv but there are people on MN who don’t believe people that’s say they don’t watch it 😅

Really? Why? Do they think people are saying they don’t watch tv at all maybe, which is more unusual? We don’t watch live tv but we watch a lot of tv as we have Netflix, Prime, Disney, Now and Apple and do occasionally watch iPlayer.

Cheeselog · 03/10/2022 12:37

We haven’t just stopped paying but we don’t have a licence. We don’t have a tv aerial so can’t receive live tv and don’t watch iplayer so don’t need one. We have Netflix instead but barely watch that either tbh.

WoodlandPM · 03/10/2022 12:38

I think Amazon quite crap. Whenever I want to watch something I have to pay extra. Maybe its just my taste in shows :(

Usually comedy which you find free on 4OD

Beees · 03/10/2022 12:38

Really want to cancel and would be happy to never watch iplayer but I do not dare 😅

Genuine question but why don't you dare? The threats and tales of fines are meant to put you off but in reality nothing has happened to me since I cancelled other than I've got an extra £160 in my bank account.

MrsMoastyToasty · 03/10/2022 12:42

Yes I do still pay. We watch bbc on the TV.

I have also seen a fair few people receiving fines of £1000 (working in an environment where I need to see people's income and outgoings).

sóhâ‚‚wlÌ¥ · 03/10/2022 12:46

I think Amazon quite crap. Whenever I want to watch something I have to pay extra. Maybe its just my taste in shows :(

No - we tend to find the same we have it because it comes with prime and prime works out better for us with delivery charges at the moment.

Netflix was great when we first got it - but do struggle to find things now -though it does look good for Halloween movies/shows. Disney we dip in and out of - and Paramount we got for Brave New Worlds - which was great but not huge amount of other stuff we want on there.

I think we pay for more TV than ever and watch less overall.

Kissingfrogs25 · 03/10/2022 12:56

We are just about to cancel too.
We never watch ‘live TV’ anymore and can’t bear the way the bbc - supposedly a man impartial service - offers such one sided views bordering on persecution and it doesn’t report anything of interest to me. I want to hear about the whole world not about the government every single day on a loop.

I am excited to cancel it! It will contribute towards the heating bill.

Sophieleigh26 · 03/10/2022 12:56

I’ve never paid it. And I watch live tv.

Thruandthru1 · 03/10/2022 12:57

I pay because I like the bbc content. Eg, Attenborough docs, hignfy, bbc news, CBeebies etc

Kissingfrogs25 · 03/10/2022 12:57

MrsMoastyToasty · 03/10/2022 12:42

Yes I do still pay. We watch bbc on the TV.

I have also seen a fair few people receiving fines of £1000 (working in an environment where I need to see people's income and outgoings).

I have worked in the court service for nearly twenty years and never seen a single fine! I wonder how you managed to see so many?

TammyOne · 03/10/2022 13:00

I pay ( although I think it’s a lot) because I listen to bbc radio and watch lots of live news, and also watch i player more than anything else. I have had Netflix in the past to watch something specific ( The Crown ) but I find BBC have the best programming. If you only have Netflix/ Amazon etc do you never watch news or current affairs programmes?

Beees · 03/10/2022 13:00

I have also seen a fair few people receiving fines of £1000 (working in an environment where I need to see people's income and outgoings).

From my albeit limited knowledge the amount od fines have been decreasing year on year and are now at approximately 50,000 a year although I doubt all of those would be £1000 fines. It would be pretty impressive if out of a population of 67 million you'd come across multiple people who had received £1000 fines.

Florenz · 03/10/2022 13:04

The TV license is indefensible in modern times. Imagine getting locked in prison for not subscribing to Sky or Netflix. The BBC should be a subscription service, no difference to Netflix, Prime or Disney plus.

Kissingfrogs25 · 03/10/2022 13:04

Beees · 03/10/2022 13:00

I have also seen a fair few people receiving fines of £1000 (working in an environment where I need to see people's income and outgoings).

From my albeit limited knowledge the amount od fines have been decreasing year on year and are now at approximately 50,000 a year although I doubt all of those would be £1000 fines. It would be pretty impressive if out of a population of 67 million you'd come across multiple people who had received £1000 fines.

Most people that are ‘caught’ not many to be fair as most people see working when the licensing team knock. Also people stream so it’s increasingly hard to prove they usually offer to pay before it goes to court if there is proof or argue that there was a problem with the direct debit
As a result we never see them now.

latetothefisting · 03/10/2022 13:05

TammyOne · 03/10/2022 13:00

I pay ( although I think it’s a lot) because I listen to bbc radio and watch lots of live news, and also watch i player more than anything else. I have had Netflix in the past to watch something specific ( The Crown ) but I find BBC have the best programming. If you only have Netflix/ Amazon etc do you never watch news or current affairs programmes?

Do you really think only the bbc shows news or current affair programmes?
You can watch any news/current affairs programs on itv/ch4 catch up. Or stream live news from sky news/aljazeera etc on youtube.

You also don't need a license to listen to bbc radio.

PaperPalace · 03/10/2022 13:06

Still watch, stil pay.

Kissingfrogs25 · 03/10/2022 13:08

TammyOne · 03/10/2022 13:00

I pay ( although I think it’s a lot) because I listen to bbc radio and watch lots of live news, and also watch i player more than anything else. I have had Netflix in the past to watch something specific ( The Crown ) but I find BBC have the best programming. If you only have Netflix/ Amazon etc do you never watch news or current affairs programmes?

Not interested in the news now. I actively avoid the news and current affairs broadcasted, it’s tip toxic.
I read for an hour a day on the above and draw my own conclusions. I am not spoon fed political agendas by questionable sources 🙂

latetothefisting · 03/10/2022 13:11

Beees · 03/10/2022 12:23

Which is really odd as it cannot be that unusual. Most of the people I know across a huge array of ages no longer watch live TV and in most cases they don't use the catch up services either. I know a handful who do but they are definitely in the minority.

Obviously it's a tiny sample size but we had this discussion at a family catch up recently (came up asa result of the coverage of the queen's death and funeral) -basically nobody under the age of 35 had a tv license, everyone over the age of 55 did.

As a non license haver there are a few things I'd like to watch on the BBC but not enough to pay 160quid - if they did a service more like netflix where you could pay per month and then cancel without nasty letters, having to apply for rebates, and people knocking on your door I probably would have paid for it two or three months a year to watch some specific programs, then cancel.

Cheeselog · 03/10/2022 13:11

TammyOne · 03/10/2022 13:00

I pay ( although I think it’s a lot) because I listen to bbc radio and watch lots of live news, and also watch i player more than anything else. I have had Netflix in the past to watch something specific ( The Crown ) but I find BBC have the best programming. If you only have Netflix/ Amazon etc do you never watch news or current affairs programmes?

Nope. I read the Guardian and FT online for news. And I still listen to BBC radio, you don’t need a licence for that.

Beees · 03/10/2022 13:13

As a result we never see them now.

I can see why and I was surprised its still approximately 50,000 to be fair as it must be hard to prove. It just really surprised me that the poster had seen so many people get the £1000 fine.

I do wonder how cost effective it is to even send people knocking on doors to try and catch people out if they only end up fining such a tiny minority. I can imagine vastly more than the amount raised in fines.

TammyOne · 03/10/2022 13:14

Do you really think only the bbc shows news or current affair programmes?
You can watch any news/current affairs programs on itv/ch4 catch up. Or stream live news from sky news/aljazeera etc on youtube.You also don't need a license to listen to bbc radio.

I had never really thought about it but I guess you can watch them in itv etc and you don’t have to watch Newsnight! I didn’t actually realise you didn’t need the licence for the radio. Tbh though, I think the programming is pretty good- it covers a lot of ground.

Pushyoupullme · 03/10/2022 13:14

Yes, about a year ago. But I genuinely do not watch anything that we would legally need a TV licence for. Plenty to watch on catch-up on non-iplayers (no livestreaming a simultaneous broadcast) and via Amazon, which I have kept as we use the deliveries a lot. There are lots of interesting things on Youtube and elsewhere too. And I am listening to the radio more, reading more, and studying more because of it. My watch lists have more on them than I'm going to get around to watching even without iplayer.

You can still watch clips (so this is how I am following Strictly and some news content), and listen to BBC Sounds, and bookmark programmes to watch later when you have a licence again as a lot are going to be available for many months or over a year from now. Or you can arrange to watch your favourites over at someone else's house who has a licence.

I know a lot of people aren't as strict with themselves about this and I am not going to judge that, but I decided to just do it properly and not stress out about it (or risk getting fined).

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